Off Topic Thread 3.0

If labour had any sense they would jettison Corbyn now (or he should voluntarily step aside) and get the not shít Milliband or someone with similar general appeal and then run on a platform of partnership with the Lib Dems for either an incredibly soft brexit and reassessment with potential second referendum at the end of the 2 year period (take new deal, go back to way it was). Otherwise just go straight for a second referendum if they win a majority.

I think a lot of people would be galvanised by this and it's the only way I see them turning the ship around. Corbyn won't go however and as much as there are things about him that I admire and positions that I would share with him I think he needs to realise that as unfair as it is he will never lead a Government and Labour is in a death spiral under him. He's probably the first Labour leader that actually holds to their traditional party values in 30 years but c'est la vie.

dregin

Sinn Fein really couldn't have asked for better timing.

CMOTDibbler

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I think a lot of people would be galvanised by this and it's the only way I see them turning the ship around. Corbyn won't go however and as much as there are things about him that I admire and positions that I would share with him I think he needs to realise that as unfair as it is he will never lead a Government and Labour is in a death spiral under him. He's probably the first Labour leader that actually holds to their traditional party values in 30 years but c'est la vie.

He's a walking contradiction imo. And a hypocrite. He's anti-EU, depite the fact that most worker protection and consumer protection law has come from there. In the Brexit campaign, he couldn't have been more detached if he'd joined the Tories, despite the fact that remain was party policy. He will now preside over a divided party whilst the Tories; unfettered by EU law will ride roughshod over the people he purports to represent.

An idealogue bereft of ideas. :rolleyes:

Zzippy

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

He's a walking contradiction imo. And a hypocrite. He's anti-EU, depite the fact that most worker protection and consumer protection law has come from there. In the Brexit campaign, he couldn't have been more detached if he'd joined the Tories, despite the fact that remain was party policy. He will now preside over a divided party whilst the Tories; unfettered by EU law will ride roughshod over the people he purports to represent.

An idealogue bereft of ideas. :rolleyes:

Probably the most succinct description of him I've read. The emperor has no clothes...

Bazzo

Looks like I've registered to vote just in time.

Just need to look up who the local UKIP representative is now :pac:

molloyjh

I'm by no means an expert on English politics, but from the outside looking in this seems to me to a no brainer for May. With Labour in disarray and the Lib Dems not exactly a massive threat the Tories can go out and sell themselves depending on the audience.

Are you pro-Brexit? Well we are the ones who brought you Brexit? Are you unsure about a hard Brexit? We will run under the banner of a soft Brexit. Sure wasn't May herself a Remain?

It's not like Labour or the Lib Dems can promise to cancel the thing. So if the Tories manage this campaign right they could really consolidate where their position while implementing a soft Brexit. For me that's where the interesting bit of this lies, i.e. how the Tories campaign. If they campaign on a soft Brexit basis then they'll get the broadest possible spectrum of support.

The Lost Sheep

molloyjh wrote: »

I'm by no means an expert on English politics, but from the outside looking in this seems to me to a no brainer for May. With Labour in disarray and the Lib Dems not exactly a massive threat the Tories can go out and sell themselves depending on the audience.

Are you pro-Brexit? Well we are the ones who brought you Brexit? Are you unsure about a hard Brexit? We will run under the banner of a soft Brexit. Sure wasn't May herself a Remain?

It's not like Labour or the Lib Dems can promise to cancel the thing. So if the Tories manage this campaign right they could really consolidate where their position while implementing a soft Brexit. For me that's where the interesting bit of this lies, i.e. how the Tories campaign. If they campaign on a soft Brexit basis then they'll get the broadest possible spectrum of support.

Its a complete no brainer. Tories should certainly strenghten their position as the other parties are no threat. One of the Biggest issues that will come from this is another scottish referendum is certain

Neil3030

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

He's a walking contradiction imo. And a hypocrite. He's anti-EU, depite the fact that most worker protection and consumer protection law has come from there. In the Brexit campaign, he couldn't have been more detached if he'd joined the Tories, despite the fact that remain was party policy. He will now preside over a divided party whilst the Tories; unfettered by EU law will ride roughshod over the people he purports to represent.

An idealogue bereft of ideas. :rolleyes:

Corbyn is toxic but his party are nonetheless in the unenviable position of holding seats in something like the 100 constituencies with the largest 'leave' vote, and the 100 constituencies with the largest 'remain' vote. They may just want this election to blow over without nailing any colour to the mast, hit rock bottom, and rebuild under a new leader for 2020.

Zzippy

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Its a complete no brainer. Tories should certainly strenghten their position as the other parties are no threat. One of the Biggest issues that will come from this is another scottish referendum is certain

On the one hand, they need the British government to approve a referendum first, which might not be forthcoming. On the other hand, if Scotland were to become independent, the Tories would have a cast-iron majority in perpetuity in the remaining UK. I'd say the Tories wouldn't be too sad to lose Scotland, but they would make it a hard exit for Scotland, in contrast to the soft deal they want for themselves in Europe...

Buer

Alyssa, I'm intrigued by these amber products. Is there a newsletter I can subscribe to?

Buer

Buer wrote: »

Alyssa, I'm intrigued by these amber products. Is there a newsletter I can subscribe to?

AmBuersidor, with deez amber you are really spoiling us..

Buer

Davy Fitz gets 8 weeks. Should have missed the whole summer. Madness that the GAA are giving him what equates to a 2 match ban for running 40 yards onto the field and getting into an altercation with opposition players.

If he wasn't a media darling, there would be a far harsher response by them.

Erik Shin

AlyssaMerrett wrote: »

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Can i try these after discussing Connor Murray's stinger issue?! Will they work, and if so can i get a discount deal if i order some for IBF also?

irishbucsfan

Buer wrote: »

Davy Fitz gets 8 weeks. Should have missed the whole summer. Madness that the GAA are giving him what equates to a 2 match ban for running 40 yards onto the field and getting into an altercation with opposition players.

If he wasn't a media darling, there would be a far harsher response by them.

Very poor response

Buer

Buer wrote: »

Davy Fitz gets 8 weeks. Should have missed the whole summer. Madness that the GAA are giving him what equates to a 2 match ban for running 40 yards onto the field and getting into an altercation with opposition players.

If he wasn't a media darling, there would be a far harsher response by them.

He is a smug, angry little man.

The all star awards after Clare won the all Ireland produced a cloud of smug that took months to clear.

thomond2006

To say I can't stand Davy Fitz is being nice.

This never gets old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFO4Jv3Vvt8

thomond2006

thomond2006 wrote: »

To say I can't stand Davy Fitz is being nice.

This never gets old.

In the dictionary under small man syndrome



Shefflin having none of it.

awec

My missus hates Davy Fitz with a passion.

Dave_The_Sheep

So does mine, but she's from Kilkenny and is into that sort of thing.

Erik Shin

What's a Davy Fitz and what are those funny sticks all those angry fellas are carrying?... Is there a lynching happening somewhere?

Buer

Erik Shin wrote: »

What's a Davy Fitz and what are those funny sticks all those angry fellas are carrying?... Is there a lynching happening somewhere?

And you from a county with a 100% success rate in All Ireland Hurling finals.

Erik Shin

Buer wrote: »

And you from a county with a 100% success rate in All Ireland Hurling finals.

Even that was before my time ffs!

swiwi_

Ah. The Bridge season 3. I'm late to the party but it's good. Selvfølgelig.

awec

Have a long flight tomorrow, the in flight entertainment looks pathetic, does anyone have any recommendations on Netflix? Movies or TV.

awec

awec wrote: »

Have a long flight tomorrow, the in flight entertainment looks pathetic, does anyone have any recommendations on Netflix? Movies or TV.

The Expanse season 1 is on Netflix, season 2 just finished and might be up there soon. Great show

Also the siege of Jadotville

awec

Kailani Dirty Teenager wrote: »

Also the siege of Jadotville

Seen it, good show.

Kevski

swiwi_ wrote: »

Ah. The Bridge season 3. I'm late to the party but it's good. Selvfølgelig.

Fantastic show! How far into season 3 have you gotten?

awec

awec wrote: »

Have a long flight tomorrow, the in flight entertainment looks pathetic, does anyone have any recommendations on Netflix? Movies or TV.

Films that might appeal to you in particular...

Winnie the Poo
Gone with the wind
Splash!
Lord of the Ring
Five easy pieces
There will be blood
Exit Wounds
Children of the corn
Fire down below
Hope floats
What lies beneath
Deep Impact
Every which way but loose
Killing Zoe Nucifora

irishbucsfan

Theres a really good drama on there, originally by BBC. Nucifer