First Dates Ireland *read first post*

Princess Calla

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

This thread seems very harsh to the Italian guy. I thought he was funny and interesting, very open and honest too much even, and very engaging. His reaction at the end wasn’t great, again too honest and delivery was poorly executed.
Lucky for him he doesn’t do social media so won’t read this. Shame they matched him up with a stunner with such high demands who had her mind made up the second he opened his mouth, no doubt she will bag herself a Tipp hurler now that she is back living there and a little famous.

Ah now I think that's fairly harsh on the girl.

Go to the personal/relationship issues forums and you'll find loads of people offering the same advice " if/when someone tells you who they are, listen to them" ie don't ignore the massive glaring red flags.

On a first date and someone says "I'm not a kind person" what the hell are you supposed to do with that? I get that some people like the "challenge" but jesus!!

To be fair to the girl she came across very warm and chatty, another girl the date would be silence after that.

Posters here are latching on to her use of "alpha male" and running her down over that. Personally I think it was her polite way of saying she didn't want a challenge and "fixxer up'er" . Someone with a bit more confidence and not doom and gloom.

In all fairness whatever personality type you are , if the only thing you can bring to the table about yourself is negative traits and nothing positive , maybe for your own sake you should get some professional help, to help see the positives and build up your self esteem. I appreciate people have rough starts in life and may have had bad experiences etc. However, dumping a whole load of negativity on someone you just met , isn't the best dating tactic.

Purple Mountain

I just watched the video again.
The poor Italian guy would want to choose his words better..I think he said giving her a 'poke' once in a while wouldn't work?!

YellowLead

Don’t forget it’s always edited in such as way to provoke a certain reaction.

Don’t know anybody who went on first dates but know somebody who went on don’t tell the bride and regretted it - edited to make him look like an eejit and also he was told to repeat thing for the camera and asked very specific questions which were off camera and then answer was filmed

lucalux

Purple Mountain wrote: »

I just watched the video again.
The poor Italian guy would want to choose his words better..I think he said giving her a 'poke' once in a while wouldn't work?!

Haha I'm pretty sure he said "talk once in a while" and that wouldnt work for him

AlmightyCushion

I think the Italian lad saying he wasn't kind was a bit lost in translation. He clarifies after he is quite blunt and straight forward. I think he just means that it comes across rude and not that he actually is rude/not kind. I thought he was very intense at first but came out of his shell quite well as the date progressed. He was just too introverted for her. Nothing wrong with that on either part. Although his reaction to her saying they should be friends was very hard to watch. So awkward.

Purple Mountain

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I think the Italian lad saying he wasn't kind was a bit lost in translation. He clarifies after he is quite blunt and straight forward. I think he just means that it comes across rude and not that he actually is rude/not kind. I thought he was very intense at first but came out of his shell quite well as the date progressed. He was just too introverted for her. Nothing wrong with that on either part. Although his reaction to her saying they should be friends was very hard to watch. So awkward.

Yes, I think he was trying to get across that he was a shooter from the hip, probably no sugar coating.

gmisk

The girl from the North was sound, she had an amazing figure, fun too, even poundshop Macklemore was a fairly decent fella, the tattoos etc would put a lot of people off Id guess, the accent also wouldn't be for me, but the just clicked! Lovely to see.

The girl with the Italian guy deserved better. Something a tad odd about him I thought, why would he think he is horrible?!. She was really pretty and had a bit of chat, glad she insisted on going first at the chat afterwards, the bring along your mates thing is a bit odd.

The blonde girl after all her chat about insisting she won't let a man pay for her........let him pay the bill! Lol...what a surprise....glad she at least said yes after making him go first.

The gay lads were nice fellas, glad they clicked, it can be pretty tough and lonely being the only gay in the village so to speak. I thought the guy from county Antrim seemed a tad heartbroken still and kind of fragile. Also really nice to see a normal average couple of gay men versus camp crude OTT walking stereotypes from last few weeks!

Side note the food in the restaurant looks savage!
I really miss eating out...I would nearly get a divorce to have a big plate of those chips!

gmisk

Oh I also really recommend teen first dates....all of it is on all4 it's very fun

dobman88

Nothing odd about people bringing mates along when they clearly explain at the start of the show that the background daters are "bubbled" with the ones on telly. Like yer man and his sister in week 1, Scots lad housemates last week, Tipp girls housemates this week.

Makes perfect sense.

My only gripe is they should bring them in before or after, not at the same time. Could be slightly intimidating for a first date if your date rocks in with their friends.

Purple Mountain

dobman88 wrote: »

Nothing odd about people bringing mates along when they clearly explain at the start of the show that the background daters are "bubbled" with the ones on telly. Like yer man and his sister in week 1, Scots lad housemates last week, Tipp girls housemates this week.

Makes perfect sense.

My only gripe is they should bring them in before or after, not at the same time. Could be slightly intimidating for a first date if your date rocks in with their friends.

Yes, it was clearly explained. It's for nothing more than contact tracing purposes/limited contacts.
No entourage!

.anon.

gmisk wrote: »

The girl with the Italian guy deserved better. Something a tad odd about him I thought, why would he think he is horrible?!. She was really pretty and had a bit of chat, glad she insisted on going first at the chat afterwards, the bring along your mates thing is a bit odd.

She handled the entire situation very well. Very polite and didn't give the producers the over-the-top reaction shots that they probably wanted. I don't understand why they couldn't have matched her with someone equally nice, confident, chatty, conventionally attractive, etc.

freshpopcorn

.anon. wrote: »

She handled the entire situation very well. Very polite and didn't give the producers the over-the-top reaction shots that they probably wanted. I don't understand why they couldn't have matched her with someone equally nice, confident, chatty, conventionally attractive, etc.

It was a brutal matching for both their sakes.

For someone on a date with someone she wasn't into I thought the Tipp wan woman was fair engaging.

Tis tough being on a date with someone you're not into.

As for Toto Schilacci, just struck me as a bit too upfront. The Italians I know are similar - just a bit more straightforward than the average Irish.

As others have said, t'was just a poor match.

The Inbetween is mine

Purple Mountain wrote: »

I just watched the video again.
The poor Italian guy would want to choose his words better..I think he said giving her a 'poke' once in a while wouldn't work?!

Facebook..no one ever give you a poke?

RebeccaK21

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

This thread seems very harsh to the Italian guy. I thought he was funny and interesting, very open and honest too much even, and very engaging. His reaction at the end wasn’t great, again too honest and delivery was poorly executed.
Lucky for him he doesn’t do social media so won’t read this. Shame they matched him up with a stunner with such high demands who had her mind made up the second he opened his mouth, no doubt she will bag herself a Tipp hurler now that she is back living there and a little famous.

Eh she's hardly famous after being on first dates. They were not a good match at all, and the way he presented himself was not in a way that would be attractive to many girls. She gave him a chance, and turned him down in a fair way.

job seeker

What did the Italian say about not staying friends with that girl? I missed what he said..

leggo

Finding the conversation about the Italian guy/Tipp girl fascinating, you can really get perspective into people based on how they took it.

I don’t get the criticism towards the Tipp girl at all tbh, she’s not obligated to like him and was perfectly polite considering he was a bit socially awkward and started the date saying he wasn’t a kind person. Whether lost in translation or not, that’s a weird thing to say on a date and she did her best to be perfectly friendly and give him a chance from there. As noted, she also paid her way and went first to avoid him being embarrassed (which he would’ve been as he was clearly going to say yes based on the post-date tantrum that looked like he was about to attack his bike).

Comments about the type of lads she’d prefer are totally unfair, baseless and come across as bitter projection from people who seem to relate hard to lads who get overly attached to someone they’ve just met, start to feel sexually entitled, then throw a tantrum like a child who doesn’t get what they want because they don’t have the introspection to deal with rejection.

tylercheribini

job seeker wrote: »

What did the Italian say about not staying friends with that girl? I missed what he said..

He was right, men being friends with women is total bs,and vice versa.

Princess Calla

gmisk wrote: »

Oh I also really recommend teen first dates....all of it is on all4 it's very fun

I'll start off by saying I've not watched it so I might be completely wrong.

However the idea of watching teens date doesn't really sit right with me.

I don't really like when really young couples are on the show either. The show can be edited very harshly and I'm not sure young people have the maturity to deal with any negative fall out that may happen.

Personally I think 25 is young enough, you have abit of life experience and hopefully abit of "street smarts" and have a fair idea of "who you are" .

tylercheribini

tylercheribini wrote: »

He was right, men being friends with women is total bs,and vice versa.

Utter bollocks.

Piehead

Not a huge fan of the Eire version of this show

Mad_maxx

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

This thread seems very harsh to the Italian guy. I thought he was funny and interesting, very open and honest too much even, and very engaging. His reaction at the end wasn’t great, again too honest and delivery was poorly executed.
Lucky for him he doesn’t do social media so won’t read this. Shame they matched him up with a stunner with such high demands who had her mind made up the second he opened his mouth, no doubt she will bag herself a Tipp hurler now that she is back living there and a little famous.

" high demands "

considering how gorgeous she is , she was extremely unassuming and modest , remarkably so ! , nothing diva - princess like about her at all

Princess Calla

Princess Calla wrote: »

I'll start off by saying I've not watched it so I might be completely wrong.

However the idea of watching teens date doesn't really sit right with me.

I don't really like when really young couples are on the show either. The show can be edited very harshly and I'm not sure young people have the maturity to deal with any negative fall out that may happen.

Personally I think 25 is young enough, you have abit of life experience and hopefully abit of "street smarts" and have a fair idea of "who you are" .

I would have said the exact same Calla until I watched it. They were all lovely imo and seemed mature but not overly so, the gay guys were great, some of the older couples could do with watching it tbh, didn't seem to be any game playing or dramatics, I was surprised at how they all presented so well, I really enjoyed it.

Princess Calla

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I would have said the exact same Calla until I watched it. They were all lovely imo and seemed mature but not overly so, the gay guys were great, some of the older couples could do with watching it tbh, didn't seem to be any game playing or dramatics, I was surprised at how they all presented so well, I really enjoyed it.

I'll give it a look

Purple Mountain

tylercheribini wrote: »

He was right, men being friends with women is total bs,and vice versa.

I think she was just saying that thinking it was polite to say, I don't think she meant it literally.
She would have been better saying just no, there's no chemistry here, thanks for buying dinner.

leggo

Mr.S wrote: »

Do people really think like this!?

Yes, loads.

In the 1920's.

Exclamation Marc

Virgin Media have a new show starting on Wednesday (Eating With The Enemy) where they have two people with polar opposite views on various issues (homosexuality, immigration are a few that seem to be the gist of some dinners) having dinner together and it looks the utter car crash it sounds.

One of the upcoming "diners" (likely not episode one) is Barry John from last years First Dates. God knows what his "opinion" is that someone will be against but I'm sure he'll further endear himself to the public.

Ferris_Bueller

Only caught up on Thursdays episode today but god some of the comments on here seem a bit harsh towards the Italian lad and his date from Tipp! Fair play to him for going on the show, he seems like he knows himself he is not a natural extrovert and it was probably out of his comfort zone. Based on what he said it sounds as if friendships and connection are not something that come natural to him, but he is obviously looking for a relationship having gone on the show and told his family he won't be home to Italy until he has a girl to bring with him. It must be difficult for someone who is a bit awkward to find someone, especially now with covid and such limited opportunities to meet people.

She came across as a nice person and did everything right IMO, was chatty, polite, offered to pay, went first at the end. What else can you do really? It was a bad match up though, you would wonder why the producers put them together. Maybe as she seemed to be very interested in travel they thought she would enjoy meeting someone from a different country.

completedit

leggo wrote: »

Yes, loads.

In the 1920's.

He was too intense but he liked her. Once that happens friendship is a mistake and avoidable if you can help it. They were never going to be friends. Some people are odd and can be friends with everyone; exes, one time dates etc but in general there is no reason for them to stay friends. They met contingent in turning it into another date or a relationship, once that avenue is closed that's the end of the relationship, platonic otherwise.

It doesn't make sense when it comes to First Dates because "better as friends" means the person is fine but not interesting or attractive enough for me to really be bothered .

DodoDojo

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

When ever I see ppl with huge amounts of tatts all over their body, I just think it says something about their personality....not sure what exactly but I don’t get a good sense of their mental stability etc

I think that actually says a lot more about you than them and not in a good way.