GLAS thread

ganmo · 04-02-2017 12:05am

I said wrote: »

No point here not used since they were put up last year will take a year for them to get used to it.
Have a effing buzzard around the place so all wildlife is scarce with the top predator/scavenger ruling the roost.

3 of buzzards around here but there's loads of small birds. Plenty of crows and naggers too though.

Baseprice, I'd like to point out the word recommended in that. I don't plan on getting back up on a ladder anytime soon, not such a big fan of working on ladders

Bleating Lamb · 08-02-2017 9:56pm

How much do Teagasc charge for doing soil samples for Glas plan?

Longford Leader · 08-02-2017 10:16pm

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

How much do Teagasc charge for doing soil samples for Glas plan?

€25 per sample (sample covers 5-8 Ha)

Bleating Lamb · 08-02-2017 10:51pm

Longford Leader wrote: »

€25 per sample (sample covers 5-8 Ha)

Thanks,does that include getting the samples analysed as well or is that extra?

Base price · 08-02-2017 11:00pm

OH and I walked through the WBC the other day and to say its in a sorry state is an understatement. There is no way we will be able to power harrow it this year to set the new seeds. We reckon that we either need to plough again or spray both areas with Roundup.
TBH I'm sorry that we choose WBC as part of our GLAS plan. The reason that we chose WBC was because I thought that by doing so we would enhance the biodiversity of our farm. Not much biodiversity if ye have to plough the emerging undergrowth or spray same let alone the costs of doing same.

Sami23 · 09-02-2017 7:41am

Base price wrote: »

OH and I walked through the WBC the other day and to say its in a sorry state is an understatement. There is no way we will be able to power harrow it this year to set the new seeds. We reckon that we either need to plough again or spray both areas with Roundup.
TBH I'm sorry that we choose WBC as part of our GLAS plan. The reason that we chose WBC was because I thought that by doing so we would enhance the biodiversity of our farm. Not much biodiversity if ye have to plough the emerging undergrowth or spray same let alone the costs of doing same.

What did ye sow ? I'm asking as I've applied for Glas 3 and have included WBC in the plan too.
Just wondering which of the seed options to sow will be the easiest to till the following year iykwim.

Username John · 09-02-2017 8:42am

Base price wrote: »

OH and I walked through the WBC the other day and to say its in a sorry state is an understatement. There is no way we will be able to power harrow it this year to set the new seeds. We reckon that we either need to plough again or spray both areas with Roundup.
TBH I'm sorry that we choose WBC as part of our GLAS plan. The reason that we chose WBC was because I thought that by doing so we would enhance the biodiversity of our farm. Not much biodiversity if ye have to plough the emerging undergrowth or spray same let alone the costs of doing same.

Is it the amount of trash after the WBC that's left, or just weeds?

Was someone saying they were going to put cattle into theirs for a while, to trample in what was there as much as anything else?

Any chance of a few pics Base?

KatyMac · 09-02-2017 9:30am

Username John wrote: »

Is it the amount of trash after the WBC that's left, or just weeds?

Was someone saying they were going to put cattle into theirs for a while, to trample in what was there as much as anything else?

Any chance of a few pics Base?

Saw that on Countryfile (BBC, Sunday evening). they are allowed to clean up their patch in the spring, so let in cattle to eat and tramp. Aren't we in Ireland allowed to do that? I don't do WBC so am not 100% sure.

Sami23 · 09-02-2017 10:02am

KatyMac wrote: »

Username John wrote: »

Is it the amount of trash after the WBC that's left, or just weeds?

Was someone saying they were going to put cattle into theirs for a while, to trample in what was there as much as anything else?

Any chance of a few pics Base?

Saw that on Countryfile (BBC, Sunday evening). they are allowed to clean up their patch in the spring, so let in cattle to eat and tramp. Aren't we in Ireland allowed to do that? I don't do WBC so am not 100% sure.

Yes we are allowed let stock in from 15th March to sowing time unless you have the two year mix.

Lady Haywire · 09-02-2017 10:52am

Base price wrote: »

OH and I walked through the WBC the other day and to say its in a sorry state is an understatement. There is no way we will be able to power harrow it this year to set the new seeds. We reckon that we either need to plough again or spray both areas with Roundup.
TBH I'm sorry that we choose WBC as part of our GLAS plan. The reason that we chose WBC was because I thought that by doing so we would enhance the biodiversity of our farm. Not much biodiversity if ye have to plough the emerging undergrowth or spray same let alone the costs of doing same.

Ours is a sorry state too, think ye planted the same as us? Linseed & oats?
It'll get a run of the mulcher (whoohoo!) and then we'll harrow it, if we hadn't the mulcher we'd prob let a gang of heifers in to trample the shíte out of it for a few days.

Longford Leader · 09-02-2017 11:40pm

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Thanks,does that include getting the samples analysed as well or is that extra?

The €25 gets you a printout that gives your P & K level, pH level and what lime it needs.

They will go trough it with you if you want. Most other places are half the price.

Genghis Cant · 10-02-2017 12:09am

Base price wrote: »

OH and I walked through the WBC the other day and to say its in a sorry state is an understatement. There is no way we will be able to power harrow it this year to set the new seeds. We reckon that we either need to plough again or spray both areas with Roundup.
TBH I'm sorry that we choose WBC as part of our GLAS plan. The reason that we chose WBC was because I thought that by doing so we would enhance the biodiversity of our farm. Not much biodiversity if ye have to plough the emerging undergrowth or spray same let alone the costs of doing same.

Any rats in it?
There's a ha of wbc 200m from the house here and it's overrun with rats.
In fact it's fascinating to see the road network they have created through the crop.

Base price · 10-02-2017 12:01pm

Username John wrote: »

Is it the amount of trash after the WBC that's left, or just weeds?

Was someone saying they were going to put cattle into theirs for a while, to trample in what was there as much as anything else?

Any chance of a few pics Base?

Both, weeds and straw/linseed stems.
I will take some pics later.

Base price · 10-02-2017 12:09pm

Genghis Cant wrote: »

Any rats in it?
There's a ha of wbc 200m from the house here and it's overrun with rats.
In fact it's fascinating to see the road network they have created through the crop.

I haven't noticed any rats but having said that I would not be walking through it much. A friend planted wbc near his yard last year and he says he was overrun with rats about the yard. Rats are an unwelcome downside of wbc :mad:

Base price · 10-02-2017 1:58pm

Pics

Username John · 10-02-2017 2:55pm

Base price wrote: »

Pics

That's rougher than I was expecting - somehow I would have thought the stalks wouldn't be as bad...

Nice bit of grass coming through, but I would have expected that...

Hard to know what to do all right, but it wont get any better between now and mid April either...

I'll have the same problems in time with my WBC I'm sure.. I wonder will that ground need a lot of lime now I wonder, with all that trash?

limo_100 · 10-02-2017 11:17pm

Base price wrote: »

Pics

What knocked mine is still standing but it has no grass coming up at all and i didnt spray it off either. I will say mine is not as dense as yours in the second picture did you put in extra seed?

Base price · 11-02-2017 6:19pm

limo_100 wrote: »

What knocked mine is still standing but it has no grass coming up at all and i didnt spray it off either. I will say mine is not as dense as yours in the second picture did you put in extra seed?

I don't know what knocked it as it is only down in places. I presume wood pigeons/crows did it as you sometimes see knocked patches in tillage. We sowed 75kgs of linseed in 3ha. From memory the recommendation was 15kg/ha if direct drilling and you add a third if broadcasting so we only needed to have sowed 60kgs but we bought 3x25kg bags.

limo_100 · 12-02-2017 1:08am

Base price wrote: »

I don't know what knocked it as it is only down in places. I presume wood pigeons/crows did it as you sometimes see knocked patches in tillage. We sowed 75kgs of linseed in 3ha. From memory the recommendation was 15kg/ha if direct drilling and you add a third if broadcasting so we only needed to have sowed 60kgs but we bought 3x25kg bags.

I dont think anyone is that happy this year with the wbc but it will be better next year the contractor told me he didnt no what he was but it will be improved next year. Im glad i did it, it was good to do something different. Theres something that Iv being wondering when the scheme is over and we put back in grass seed will we be allowed to put it in for hay meadow or permanent pasture? Id be hoping to do up this ground

Nekarsulm · 12-02-2017 1:48am

If you give it four or five runs of a set of disk harrows now, would they chop it down enough to allow you broadcast seed later?
Even if it needed another disking at seeding time?

Base price · 12-02-2017 2:28am

Nekarsulm wrote: »

If you give it four or five runs of a set of disk harrows now, would they chop it down enough to allow you broadcast seed later?
Even if it needed another disking at seeding time?

Nek, in fairness where the hell would one find a disc harrow around here in Longford/Cavan - it ain't tillage land.

Dozer1 · 13-02-2017 10:31pm

need to plant 170 metres of hedging, anyone know where best value in plants is

pedigree 6 · 13-02-2017 10:44pm

Base price wrote: »

Nek, in fairness where the hell would one find a disc harrow around here in Longford/Cavan - it ain't tillage land.

Longford.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/simba-2b-disc-harrow/13400133

Longford.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/ransomes-trailed-disc-harrow/14145082

Longford.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/cousins-k125-trailed-disc-harrow/14145113

And probably the one, Roscommon.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/disc-harrow/14651979

limo_100 · 13-02-2017 10:53pm

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Longford.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/simba-2b-disc-harrow/13400133

Longford.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/ransomes-trailed-disc-harrow/14145082

Longford.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/cousins-k125-trailed-disc-harrow/14145113

And probably the one, Roscommon.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/disc-harrow/14651979

Jesus there very expensive just for bird cover would your contractor not have a disc harrow? would A power not do rightly?

Im just gona top mine and let the contractor do what he wants with it I might spray it for him if he wants it sprayer

Base price · 13-02-2017 11:27pm

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Longford.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/simba-2b-disc-harrow/13400133

Longford.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/ransomes-trailed-disc-harrow/14145082

Longford.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/cousins-k125-trailed-disc-harrow/14145113

And probably the one, Roscommon.
https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/disc-harrow/14651979

A bit expensive for what I want. Only 4 more years left in the scheme. I think I will rely on the destructive powers of a heap of yearling locked into it ðŸ˜Š

Genghis Cant · 13-02-2017 11:35pm

Dozer1 wrote: »

need to plant 170 metres of hedging, anyone know where best value in plants is

I can't recommend anyone your end of the country but I will say this. The cheapest mightn't be the best value. Get some local so you can get a look at them. They should look nice and healthy with a good bushy root system.

Grueller · 13-02-2017 11:37pm

Genghis Cant wrote: »

I can't recommend anyone your end of the country but I will say this. The cheapest mightn't be the best value. Get some local so you can get a look at them. They should look nice and healthy with a good bushy root system.

+1. I have used 2 local suppliers over the years cheaper suppliers plants take two years to start to thrive while the dearer ones go straight away.

ganmo · 14-02-2017 12:18am

Genghis Cant wrote: »

I can't recommend anyone your end of the country but I will say this. The cheapest mightn't be the best value. Get some local so you can get a look at them. They should look nice and healthy with a good bushy root system.

nonesohardy in wicklow will courier the trees once the value is over €250

Rushy Fields · 20-03-2017 5:11pm

I'm obviously a bit stupid.......
i thought on entering GLAS 2 at the start there was a once off payment to the planner i.e. Teagasc of €450ish once accepted into the scheme.
But now i have to hand over another €430 ish for my Nutrient Managemnet Plan this year.
Is this the case?

I probably shouldn't be questioning this but i'm just looking or peoples experience and opinions.

adam14 · 20-03-2017 6:44pm

Rushy Fields wrote:

I'm obviously a bit stupid....... i thought on entering GLAS 2 at the start there was a once off payment to the planner i.e. Teagasc of â‚¬450ish once accepted into the scheme. But now i have to hand over another â‚¬430 ish for my Nutrient Managemnet Plan this year. Is this the case?

Yes that's correct and then you'll be waiting about 2 years to get anything back

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