Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny

Big Gerry · 02-12-2022 3:38pm

The de-aging they did on Ford looks very good.

OU812 · 02-12-2022 3:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119947653#Comment_119947653

He travels back to WWII, fights nazis with his younger self, then fathers a child, who he travels to in 1970s and hands over the hat & whip to Chris Pratt who is called Henry Jones after his dad

FunLover18 · 02-12-2022 7:31pm

I just think the CGI is a problem full stop, I know it's how movies work but the original trilogy didn't use CGI or at least minimally. Practical stunts and miniatures was how most of the stunts were done and it shows. It's the beauty of those movies, they feel real. The action in KotCS never had that feeling and I'm concerned this will be the same.

Big Gerry · 02-12-2022 9:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119950121#Comment_119950121

The Last Crusade has some very bad early CGI.

silverharp · 03-12-2022 9:50am

The dialogue doesnt sound great " i dont believe in magic" from a guy who once saved his life by keeping his eyes closed so angels wouldnt melt his head. or the its not what you believe but how hard you do, seriously cringe, even fleabag's line indicates she is going to be annoying.

pixelburp · 03-12-2022 12:36pm

Director James Mangold addresses the inevitable, tedious bullshít about what the film is about.

https://twitter.com/mang0ld/status/1598776604721057793

https://twitter.com/mang0ld/status/1598777488103993344

https://twitter.com/mang0ld/status/1598780362955853824

silverharp · 03-12-2022 2:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119952180#Comment_119952180

he is probably correct, hes lucky disney dont have a history of disrespecting IP characters

BruteStock · 03-12-2022 9:48pm

Im going into this with optimism only because Mangold has a lot of solid pictures under his belt. The trailer didn't impress though. The originals had great lighting and cinematography , very vibrant looking films. . This one looks too computery.

BruteStock · 03-12-2022 9:54pm

Oh and Fleabag is not the right choice as an action adventure sidekick. She's a good writer. Yeah , and? So is Lena Dunham.. lol

I can think of better choices just off the top of dome - Charlize Theron , Zendaya , Kristen Stewart , Jodie Comer

py2006 · 04-12-2022 3:55pm

I read a couple so called leaks (I won't post here) from test screenings which aline with my fears for the film. Which are based on what happened with Kennedy's influence over the recent SW movies.

Hopefully, they are bullcrap. The directors tweets in the above post have settled my nerves a little.

xper · 06-12-2022 10:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119904100#Comment_119904100

Christ, that cover is like some parody/as-if prop from an '80's or 90's film. Just a long list of overextended franchise instalments over a picture of a movie star in their iconic role but clearly far past it. Its like the Jaws 19 joke in BTTF2 or similar references elsewhere to Rocky <insert long roman numeral here> but this is a real magazine cover in 2022.

Shred · 06-12-2022 11:37pm

Liking the look of that trailer!

B.A._Baracus · 07-12-2022 9:07am

Trailer does look good.

Am I alone in thinking that while the de-aging looks great, but that bit where Indy is on the horse looks bad? The bit where the horse buckles up at 55 seconds in. Look at his face.

MisterAnarchy · 07-12-2022 8:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119966226#Comment_119966226

That was a stuntman wearing a mask, Ford was injured at the time.

I have very low expectations for this.

Relikk · 07-12-2022 8:51pm

Of course I'd like to be proved wrong, but it looks pretty terrible.

Kingp35 · 08-12-2022 10:36am

Too much of a CGI fest for my liking. I loved the original trilogy and the use of practical effects, miniature sets etc worked great.

The trailer shows this will rely heavily on CGI which just doesn't work for me. I don't watch Marvel films etc because of the over use of CGI, I'd rather play a video game than watch a film that looks like one.

I have low expectations for this one now.

loyatemu · 08-12-2022 11:49am

ultimately this is just more "product" based on intellectual "property" bought for a vast sum of money, and made by committee; same as all the recent Star Wars "product". The original films were born out of love for the old movie serials and featured producer, director and lead actor all at the top of their game. It might not be terrible, but it won't come anywhere near those 3 films.

conorhal · 13-12-2022 2:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119951841#Comment_119951841

That was some really annoying dialogue in a speach full of meaningless platitudes which don't even make a lick of sense, awful writing. It bugged me in much the same way that Ghostbusters 2 did when everybody collectively seems to have decided, despite being on the cover of Time and a giant marshmallow man tearing up New York, aparently ghosts don't exist.

If I'd seen even half of the stuff Indiana Jones had, there probably isn't a myth or conspiracy theory too wild that I wouldn't give at least a bit of creedance to it. But sure it was the same with The Last Crusade. Indy, you just literally witnessed the wrath of God, how is the holy grail a bridge too far for you?

ArmaniJeanss · 13-12-2022 3:53pm

Strictly speaking Indy didn't see what happened to the Nazi's in the first film, did he? He'd have no idea it was angels or whatever. All he'd know is the Nazi's all died.

Even then the line 'I don't believe in magic' can still make sense though we'd have to see the full context. Plenty of people have deep faith in Christianity/spiritualism but don't believe in magic.

e.g., if Indys line is in reply to someone saying that an event can't possibly be otherworldy but must be a magic trick then Indy's 'I don't believe in magic' is a perfectly fine answer based on what he has witnessed previously.

loyatemu · 13-12-2022 4:16pm

he chants a spell at the end of Temple of Doom and it causes the sacred stone to become burning hot in Mola Ram's hand. So not only has he seen magic, he's performed it too.

ArmaniJeanss · 13-12-2022 4:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119991882#Comment_119991882

Hmmmm. Could also say 'he made a prayer to some Hindu god and it caused the sacred stone to become hot etc....'.

I still think that would make the 'don't believe in magic' line perfectly consistent, but I guess it depends on where we stand on religion and magic. Clearly in the Indy universe a powerful God force does exist (generally approximating to Christianity) but proof has only been witnessed by Indy and a few others, and there is also some truth in the Buddhist/Hindu teachings.

pixelburp · 13-12-2022 5:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119970353#Comment_119970353

That may be true, and would have agreed with you broadly, but Andor has showed there's still space for genuinely riveting, creative stuff if given the runway to happen. For me Star Wars had become functionally, creatively bankrupt until I started watching that show. Now, could still turn out to be a single swallow not meaning a summer but it does also mean the franchise isn't completely beyond hope.

Indiana Jones of course is a much reduced, more limited and specific IP; not least by the fact it's set around a single individual, rather than a toybox universe. I keep seeing there's a National Treasture TV spin-off and that'll be interesting: a blatant Indy Jones knock-off but minus the actual actors who made the thing even remotely watchable (ie, Nicholas Cage)

Tony EH · 13-12-2022 7:41pm

The "I don't believe in magic" line is just stupid on face value. Let's be honest about it. However, if it's Uri Geller or David Copperfield type "magic", then that's a different matter.

buried · 13-12-2022 10:34pm

No doubt that the Disneyfied Indiana Jones doesn't believe in magic. He now works for a company that killed the artistic magic of his actual original creator's well crafted efforts. Just like they did to Luke Skywalker. Only works though if you watch this new trash and remember it as well as you did the originals, which nobody seems to accomplish, no matter how much they hype the new trash when it comes out.

silverharp · 13-12-2022 11:49pm

A scoop by the looks of it, John Williams let slip that "there is a new ending to shoot and record in a couple of weeks" 5:50 , maybe all the endings leaks were spot on

https://youtu.be/0Z1JTPctd2w