Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

Swashbuckler

rusty cole wrote: »

just a quick two mins on half time rugby but wtf!! this is a joke.

you;re right, whatever about the 1st fight, he shouldn't be holding up the division, time is ticking for these lads. either defend it or get off the pot. whomever is making this decision to fight a non title at ufc 200 has no sense of fair play but a nose for making money.

that really means they're only chasing the dollars. never been done before, the move was only for RDA and then the diaz fight was apparently to not let the fans down.
so what's it about now??? load of bollox to be honest. vacate your belt already, don't use a loss rematch as a shield to hide behind your apathy for making weight at 145.. he likes the steaks too much now.

white showing nothing but contempt for the lads at 145 now.

I wouldn't call it apathy in fairness. It's a monster cut so i fully understand a move to 155. 170 makes no sense to me though. That's just ego.

Agree with you though. He shouldn't be allowed to hold up the division.

Devastator

holding up the division? FFS I thought that was a tongue in cheek line lads were using on the wind up....since when did people actually seriously start trying to claim that? :D:D:D


The only other FW title holder defended the belt on average every 8 months, I'm really trying not to allow FACTS to interupt these crazy claims, but its been less than 4 months since Conor even won the belt!

Swashbuckler

Devastator wrote: »

holding up the division? FFS I thought that was a tongue in cheek line lads were using on the wind up....since when did people actually seriously start trying to claim that? :D:D:D


The only other FW title holder defended the belt on average every 8 months, I'm really trying not to allow FACTS to interupt these crazy claims, but its been less than 4 months since Conor even won the belt!

The point is the champ is fit and ready to fight. He should be defending his belt or dropping it. It's about fairness more so than holding up the division.

Devastator

Swashbuckler wrote: »

The point is the champ is fit and ready to fight. He should be defending his belt or dropping it. It's about fairness more so than holding up the division.

Thats the same champ who about 3 weeks ago offered to fight both Aldo & Edgar at 196 but both said they were injured? ohhh yeaaahhhhh but Conor's to blame for not fighting :pac::D:pac::D:pac:

Swashbuckler

Devastator wrote: »

Thats the same champ who about 3 weeks ago offered to fight both Aldo & Edgar at 196 but both said they were injured? ohhh yeaaahhhhh but Conor's to blame for not fighting :pac::D:pac::D:pac:

Thats a completely different circumstance in fairness but we'll agree to disagree lol.

Gamebred

Hes chasing that McGregor belt back that Diaz took off him.

darced

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StringerBell

Until Aldo had a year of injury basically, he was a twice a year champion, the injuries knocked his average down to once every 8 months, he has been lambasted and abused to high heaven for being an "inactive champion" even though he wasn't, to hear some say McGregor is alright to not fight and defend his belt for a minimum of 10 months while he is fit and fighting in other matches is hilarious.

There are two fights that need addressing in the FW division, he has had his voluntary fight now he should be taking a mandatory to use a boxing analogy. To continue to fight without dropping the belt is a piss take.

To put a non title fight as the main event of such a huge event in the UFC calendar would be an even bigger piss take, you simply couldn't believe it, other then....Dana White. Then anything is possible.

Lukker-

StringerBell wrote: »

To put a non title fight as the main event of such a huge event in the UFC calendar would be an even bigger piss take, you simply couldn't believe it, other then....Dana White. Then anything is possible.

It's not even Dana, it's essentially a business decision, so it comes from the brothers. Dana is just their mouthpiece.

I don't see why people are surprised anymore. The UFC are a private run for profit. The belts are secondary to the numbers. Belts themselves are just a promotional vehicle to promote fights and since we have such a high turnover of champions they have become less relevant business wise as if you put all your chips in the one basket like Ronda and she loses then you are left without one of your main sources of income.

The UFC has never treated people equally and to expect them to would be naive. They follow the numbers and Conor essentially epitomizes what the company has come to stand for.

It will only get worse too, especially if it gets taken over by an investment firm. The Muhammed Ali act will never pass in MMA either. The boxing act gets enough criticism as people don't think the government should have any input into boxing regulation, and there is no way they get involved with MMA.

Irishcrx

I actually can't believe they'll make mcgregor Diaz 2 so early, absolute joke...Conor's the one banging on about Aldo not defending, pulling out , champions spirit etc sure what's the saying your not a champion until you defend...

Has to defend his damn title and out his ego and bank account away for a few months...

The more this goes on the more the ufc steps closer to WWE territority and nobody wants that.

It's obvious Conor used FW and his size advantage to gain wins easier than at Lw build his reputation but that cut although obviously difficult must be a real killer and he's done with it, if he'd won the Diaz fight he wouldn't even consider going back back so if that's his choice fair enough stay at lightweight and do what you gotta do but vacate the title with some dignity and let people who actually want the belt right it out.

Also vs Edgar for the FW title at 200 main event....Conor Diaz two underneath it

mdwexford

I'll still be surprised if Conor vs Diaz is the main event for UFC 200.

I'll be even more surprised if it's at welterweight.

If it is announced I think he should give up the featherweight strap because relistically he won't ever fight at featherweight again. The longer he stays at a heavier weight and the more muscle he puts on the harder it will be to get back to 145.

The Diaz fight is obviously a bigger fight at this stage than Frankie or Aldo.
Love him or hate him people are going to buy the ppv to see can he avenge that defeat.

Thelomen Toblackai

Gamebred wrote: »

Hes chasing that McGregor belt back that Diaz took off him.

I really hope Diaz plays that up if there is a rematch.

stephenl15

Irishcrx wrote: »

I actually can't believe they'll make mcgregor Diaz 2 so early, absolute joke...Conor's the one banging on about Aldo not defending, pulling out , champions spirit etc sure what's the saying your not a champion until you defend...

Has to defend his damn title and out his ego and bank account away for a few months...

The more this goes on the more the ufc steps closer to WWE territority and nobody wants that.

It's obvious Conor used FW and his size advantage to gain wins easier than at Lw build his reputation but that cut although obviously difficult must be a real killer and he's done with it, if he'd won the Diaz fight he wouldn't even consider going back back so if that's his choice fair enough stay at lightweight and do what you gotta do but vacate the title with some dignity and let people who actually want the belt right it out.

Also vs Edgar for the FW title at 200 main event....Conor Diaz two underneath it

You'd swear Conor was the only fighter who cuts weight to gain a size advantage:rolleyes:

Devastator

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Thats a completely different circumstance in fairness but we'll agree to disagree lol.

agree to disagree? ya what? :pac::D:pac: what a joker you are!

Slating McG for not defending and when its pointed out to you he has offered the only 2 worthy challengers(full camp Chad is a VERY distant 3rd, even with extra feather boas) recently you say that? hahaha please indulge us in what the completely different circumstances were? As far as I'm concerned HE offered to defend, the challengers didn't accept. Somehow you(& others) seem to think by turning down McG at 196 Aldo/Edgar should be rewarded with an (interim) belt

clever user name

Devastator wrote: »

agree to disagree? ya what? :pac::D:pac: what a joker you are!

Slating McG for not defending and when its pointed out to you he has offered the only 2 worthy challengers(full camp Chad is a VERY distant 3rd, even with extra feather boas) recently you say that? hahaha please indulge us in what the completely different circumstances were? As far as I'm concerned HE offered to defend, the challengers didn't accept. Somehow you(& others) seem to think by turning down McG at 196 Aldo/Edgar should be rewarded with an (interim) belt

I think what he meant is the fight would probably not have been for the featherweight belt, it would have been at 155. I highly doubt Conor could have made that weight on such short notice. Thus, there was less incentive for either to take the fight. However, I hold my hands up, I may be wrong, perhaps he could have made 145. I doubt it though.

Either way, Edgar was injured. Aldo, well it just straight up refused it. So much for him running his mouth.

Swashbuckler

Devastator wrote: »

agree to disagree? ya what? :pac::D:pac: what a joker you are!

Slating McG for not defending and when its pointed out to you he has offered the only 2 worthy challengers(full camp Chad is a VERY distant 3rd, even with extra feather boas) recently you say that? hahaha please indulge us in what the completely different circumstances were? As far as I'm concerned HE offered to defend, the challengers didn't accept. Somehow you(& others) seem to think by turning down McG at 196 Aldo/Edgar should be rewarded with an (interim) belt

Ok so we won't agree to disagree!

Conor is fit and able to defend the belt. When he offered the fight to Aldo and Frankie after RDA got injured he did so on 10 days notice. Frankie was injured and Aldo wasn't in camp. In saying that Aldo shouldn't have run his mouth of on twitter but the fact remains he wasn't in camp.

Conor is fit and ready to defend the belt so he should defend the belt. The fact the ufc allow him to fiddle around in other weight classes is annoying. I understand why it makes sense money wise but it's not fair.

I'm not slating McG. I just have an issue with him not defending the belt.

Devastator

Devastator wrote: »

holding up the division? FFS I thought that was a tongue in cheek line lads were using on the wind up....since when did people actually seriously start trying to claim that? :D:D:D


The only other FW title holder defended the belt on average every 8 months, I'm really trying not to allow FACTS to interupt these crazy claims, but its been less than 4 months since Conor even won the belt!

yes and we all agree that was a shyte state of affairs, every 8 months right??. no way should you be allowed chase other fights whilst keeping a belt. Like I said, the 1st fight was for the fans etc and I totally agree, sure it was sold as a FUN fight that the fans would like... like rocky Vs thunder lips FFS!!! but c'mon, back to business, your next fight should be a belt defense!!!

It's like putting your towel on the squat rack and going round the gym trying everything else whilst others who want to push their efforts are mad to squat!!! ah lads you cant squat, or at least not til I'm ready!!

I may or may not decide to come get my towel!!!

Name me one person who will
have ever done than and I;'l shut the fook up!!

Tox56

StringerBell wrote: »

Until Aldo had a year of injury basically, he was a twice a year champion, the injuries knocked his average down to once every 8 months, he has been lambasted and abused to high heaven for being an "inactive champion" even though he wasn't, to hear some say McGregor is alright to not fight and defend his belt for a minimum of 10 months while he is fit and fighting in other matches is hilarious.

There are two fights that need addressing in the FW division, he has had his voluntary fight now he should be taking a mandatory to use a boxing analogy. To continue to fight without dropping the belt is a piss take.

To put a non title fight as the main event of such a huge event in the UFC calendar would be an even bigger piss take, you simply couldn't believe it, other then....Dana White. Then anything is possible.

The fight hasnt even been announced yet, we have no idea if McGregor is planning to drop his belt or not, but I wouldnt be surprised if he was. Hes been saying how he "doesnt give a fcuk" about the belts, and it would be easy for him to drop it and say the 145ers can have their paper belt etc. I mean, even if Aldo won his title back hes never going to be satisfied if he doesnt beat the guy who dethroned him.

Also on what planet is it a "piss take" to put Diaz-McGregor as the headliner for UFC 200? It was the biggest selling fight of all time. UFC 100 sold more PPVs, but that card was stacked from top to bottom, with 196 there was literally nothing outside the main events, and of the two title fights it was all about the McGregor-Diaz fight realistically. McGregor-Diaz is the biggest selling single fight the UFC have ever had, and rematches with fallen stars have often sold more than the original fight

Swashbuckler

Tox56 wrote: »

The fight hasnt even been announced yet, we have no idea if McGregor is planning to drop his belt or not, but I wouldnt be surprised if he was. Hes been saying how he "doesnt give a fcuk" about the belts, and it would be easy for him to drop it and say the 145ers can have their paper belt etc. I mean, even if Aldo won his title back hes never going to be satisfied if he doesnt beat the guy who dethroned him.

Also on what planet is it a "piss take" to put Diaz-McGregor as the headliner for UFC 200? It was the biggest selling fight of all time. UFC 100 sold more PPVs, but that card was stacked from top to bottom, with 196 there was literally nothing outside the main events, and of the two title fights it was all about the McGregor-Diaz fight realistically. McGregor-Diaz is the biggest selling single fight the UFC have ever had, and rematches with fallen stars have often sold more than the original fight

So you don't think he should have to defend the belt?

darced

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Subcomandante Marcos

darced wrote: »

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Dana offered a banned Aldo and an injured Frankie the 196 fight on short notice.


It wasn't a legitimate offer to either but the fact that he did it means people can quote it as if it mean something.

Total idiocy tbh.

Conor needs to either defend to 145 belt or vacate it. Diaz will smack the **** out of him whether it's at 155 or 170. Conor doesn't deserve to be give a chance at 155, RDA, Khabib, Diaz or Ferguson would all **** him up, he needs to defend the 145 belt against Frankie or Aldo before any talk of anything else.

gdavis

its all getting a bit "Hollywood" if this is true.I know McGregor says hes all about the money,but is he really ALL about it?Is it his ego that wont let him put diaz on back burner until he sorts out edgar? a two loss in a row McGregor will put him among the mere mortals,I hope its not true,surely jk wouldn't be a fan of this at ww either?

Tox56

Swashbuckler wrote: »

So you don't think he should have to defend the belt?

I think he should have to drop it if he takes the Diaz fight, but although people are demanding he vacate it I don't think anyone, Aldo and even Edgar included, will be particularly satisfied if he does actually do that. But he's under no obligation to keep the belt and defend it if that's what you're suggesting

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Dana offered a banned Aldo and an injured Frankie the 196 fight on short notice.


It wasn't a legitimate offer to either but the fact that he did it means people can quote it as if it mean something.

Total idiocy tbh.

Conor needs to either defend to 145 belt or vacate it. Diaz will smack the **** out of him whether it's at 155 or 170. Conor doesn't deserve to be give a chance at 155, RDA, Khabib, Diaz or Ferguson would all **** him up, he needs to defend the 145 belt against Frankie or Aldo before any talk of anything else.

Aldo wasn't banned, and he said he would fight McGregor anywhere anytime, he got offered the fight and turns it down. Frankie is the former 155 champ, he can easily fight at that weight and I have no doubt that offer was also genuine, despite the fact people are desperate to claim that McGregor is 'ducking' him. It was short notice for both of them and they were both recovering from injuries, but that was true for McGregor when he fought mendes, I don't see why the offer to fight either of them at 196 wouldn't be considered legitimate

JustTheOne

Jesus watching the fight again. Nates leg was there all night, why didn't conor take advantage of it.

Davei141

Devastator wrote: »

agree to disagree? ya what? :pac::D:pac: what a joker you are!

Slating McG for not defending and when its pointed out to you he has offered the only 2 worthy challengers(full camp Chad is a VERY distant 3rd, even with extra feather boas) recently you say that? hahaha please indulge us in what the completely different circumstances were? As far as I'm concerned HE offered to defend, the challengers didn't accept. Somehow you(& others) seem to think by turning down McG at 196 Aldo/Edgar should be rewarded with an (interim) belt

Hes the joker and you think McGregor offered to defend his 145 belt at 196...:pac:

Call Me Jimmy

It was borderline hard to watch RDA kicking diaz. I think conor will ignore that approach again. Only difference being he'll have more awareness of his stamina -that will be the 'new' game plan. A decision victory for him won't get him the kind of redemption he's looking for, I just cant see him changing anything up really.

Have we ever seen him hurt anyone with leg kicks?

JustTheOne

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

It was borderline hard to watch RDA kicking diaz. I think conor will ignore that approach again. Only difference being he'll have more awareness of his stamina -that will be the 'new' game plan. A decision victory for him won't get him the kind of redemption he's looking for, I just cant see him changing anything up really.

Have we ever seen him hurt anyone with leg kicks?

He never had a reason to.

Now he has a good chance and reason to try.

Swashbuckler

Tox56 wrote: »

I think he should have to drop it if he takes the Diaz fight, but although people are demanding he vacate it I don't think anyone, Aldo and even Edgar included, will be particularly satisfied if he does actually do that. But he's under no obligation to keep the belt and defend it if that's what you're suggesting



Aldo wasn't banned, and he said he would fight McGregor anywhere anytime, he got offered the fight and turns it down. Frankie is the former 155 champ, he can easily fight at that weight and I have no doubt that offer was also genuine, despite the fact people are desperate to claim that McGregor is 'ducking' him. It was short notice for both of them and they were both recovering from injuries, but that was true for McGregor when he fought mendes, I don't see why the offer to fight either of them at 196 wouldn't be considered legitimate

I'm suggesting that he should either defend the belt or drop it.

Devastator

clever user name wrote: »

I think what he meant is the fight would probably not have been for the featherweight belt, it would have been at 155. I highly doubt Conor could have made that weight on such short notice. Thus, there was less incentive for either to take the fight. However, I hold my hands up, I may be wrong, perhaps he could have made 145. I doubt it though.

Either way, Edgar was injured. Aldo, well it just straight up refused it. So much for him running his mouth.

So based on speculation that Conor couldn't have made 145 should Aldo/Edgar have accepted the fight then McG should vacate the belt?

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Ok so we won't agree to disagree!

Conor is fit and able to defend the belt. When he offered the fight to Aldo and Frankie after RDA got injured he did so on 10 days notice. Frankie was injured and Aldo wasn't in camp. In saying that Aldo shouldn't have run his mouth of on twitter but the fact remains he wasn't in camp.

Conor is fit and ready to defend the belt so he should defend the belt. The fact the ufc allow him to fiddle around in other weight classes is annoying. I understand why it makes sense money wise but it's not fair.

I'm not slating McG. I just have an issue with him not defending the belt.

Maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree :eek::D IMO McG has offered the only 2 viable challengers the fight, both refused, so it kinda puts them to the back of the queue a bit(obviously not the back, but moves them off pole position anyway).

I would definitely have Edgar above Aldo though now. After Aldo pulling out of 189 after a massive press tour, only lasting 13 seconds when they did fight then coming out slabbering after the fight to then hide behind another injury when offered the fight.

I don't disagree with anyone that says McG should defend, but when he defends IMO doesn't really matter. I just don't agree whatsoever with anyone making claims of McG holding up the division. I think thats a complete BS statement to make after having Aldo as champ for so long.

rusty cole wrote: »

It's like putting your towel on the squat rack and going round the gym trying everything else whilst others who want to push their efforts are mad to squat!!! ah lads you cant squat, or at least not til I'm ready!!

I may or may not decide to come get my towel!!!

If you offer the squat rack to the rest of the gym and they turn it down because they're injured then I don't see what the issue is :pac:

darced wrote: »

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Not sure. I presumed so as fighting either of them at 155 or 170 wouldn't have made sense.

John_D80

darced wrote: »

Did Conor offer to defend the belt at 196? I find that hard to believe.

No he did not. Aldo and Edgar were both offered the matchup at 155 after RDA pulled out because Conor could not have made 145 on ten days notice.