rusty cole wrote: » just a quick two mins on half time rugby but wtf!! this is a joke. you;re right, whatever about the 1st fight, he shouldn't be holding up the division, time is ticking for these lads. either defend it or get off the pot. whomever is making this decision to fight a non title at ufc 200 has no sense of fair play but a nose for making money. that really means they're only chasing the dollars. never been done before, the move was only for RDA and then the diaz fight was apparently to not let the fans down. so what's it about now??? load of bollox to be honest. vacate your belt already, don't use a loss rematch as a shield to hide behind your apathy for making weight at 145.. he likes the steaks too much now. white showing nothing but contempt for the lads at 145 now.
Devastator wrote: » holding up the division? FFS I thought that was a tongue in cheek line lads were using on the wind up....since when did people actually seriously start trying to claim that? :D:D:D The only other FW title holder defended the belt on average every 8 months, I'm really trying not to allow FACTS to interupt these crazy claims, but its been less than 4 months since Conor even won the belt!
Swashbuckler wrote: » The point is the champ is fit and ready to fight. He should be defending his belt or dropping it. It's about fairness more so than holding up the division.
Devastator wrote: » Thats the same champ who about 3 weeks ago offered to fight both Aldo & Edgar at 196 but both said they were injured? ohhh yeaaahhhhh but Conor's to blame for not fighting :pac::D:pac::D:pac:
StringerBell wrote: » To put a non title fight as the main event of such a huge event in the UFC calendar would be an even bigger piss take, you simply couldn't believe it, other then....Dana White. Then anything is possible.
Gamebred wrote: » Hes chasing that McGregor belt back that Diaz took off him.
Irishcrx wrote: » I actually can't believe they'll make mcgregor Diaz 2 so early, absolute joke...Conor's the one banging on about Aldo not defending, pulling out , champions spirit etc sure what's the saying your not a champion until you defend... Has to defend his damn title and out his ego and bank account away for a few months... The more this goes on the more the ufc steps closer to WWE territority and nobody wants that.It's obvious Conor used FW and his size advantage to gain wins easier than at Lw build his reputation but that cut although obviously difficult must be a real killer and he's done with it, if he'd won the Diaz fight he wouldn't even consider going back back so if that's his choice fair enough stay at lightweight and do what you gotta do but vacate the title with some dignity and let people who actually want the belt right it out. Also vs Edgar for the FW title at 200 main event....Conor Diaz two underneath it
Swashbuckler wrote: » Thats a completely different circumstance in fairness but we'll agree to disagree lol.
Devastator wrote: » agree to disagree? ya what? :pac::D:pac: what a joker you are! Slating McG for not defending and when its pointed out to you he has offered the only 2 worthy challengers(full camp Chad is a VERY distant 3rd, even with extra feather boas) recently you say that? hahaha please indulge us in what the completely different circumstances were? As far as I'm concerned HE offered to defend, the challengers didn't accept. Somehow you(& others) seem to think by turning down McG at 196 Aldo/Edgar should be rewarded with an (interim) belt
StringerBell wrote: » Until Aldo had a year of injury basically, he was a twice a year champion, the injuries knocked his average down to once every 8 months, he has been lambasted and abused to high heaven for being an "inactive champion" even though he wasn't, to hear some say McGregor is alright to not fight and defend his belt for a minimum of 10 months while he is fit and fighting in other matches is hilarious. There are two fights that need addressing in the FW division, he has had his voluntary fight now he should be taking a mandatory to use a boxing analogy. To continue to fight without dropping the belt is a piss take. To put a non title fight as the main event of such a huge event in the UFC calendar would be an even bigger piss take, you simply couldn't believe it, other then....Dana White. Then anything is possible.
Tox56 wrote: » The fight hasnt even been announced yet, we have no idea if McGregor is planning to drop his belt or not, but I wouldnt be surprised if he was. Hes been saying how he "doesnt give a fcuk" about the belts, and it would be easy for him to drop it and say the 145ers can have their paper belt etc. I mean, even if Aldo won his title back hes never going to be satisfied if he doesnt beat the guy who dethroned him. Also on what planet is it a "piss take" to put Diaz-McGregor as the headliner for UFC 200? It was the biggest selling fight of all time. UFC 100 sold more PPVs, but that card was stacked from top to bottom, with 196 there was literally nothing outside the main events, and of the two title fights it was all about the McGregor-Diaz fight realistically. McGregor-Diaz is the biggest selling single fight the UFC have ever had, and rematches with fallen stars have often sold more than the original fight
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Swashbuckler wrote: » So you don't think he should have to defend the belt?
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » Dana offered a banned Aldo and an injured Frankie the 196 fight on short notice. It wasn't a legitimate offer to either but the fact that he did it means people can quote it as if it mean something. Total idiocy tbh. Conor needs to either defend to 145 belt or vacate it. Diaz will smack the **** out of him whether it's at 155 or 170. Conor doesn't deserve to be give a chance at 155, RDA, Khabib, Diaz or Ferguson would all **** him up, he needs to defend the 145 belt against Frankie or Aldo before any talk of anything else.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » It was borderline hard to watch RDA kicking diaz. I think conor will ignore that approach again. Only difference being he'll have more awareness of his stamina -that will be the 'new' game plan. A decision victory for him won't get him the kind of redemption he's looking for, I just cant see him changing anything up really. Have we ever seen him hurt anyone with leg kicks?
Tox56 wrote: » I think he should have to drop it if he takes the Diaz fight, but although people are demanding he vacate it I don't think anyone, Aldo and even Edgar included, will be particularly satisfied if he does actually do that. But he's under no obligation to keep the belt and defend it if that's what you're suggesting Aldo wasn't banned, and he said he would fight McGregor anywhere anytime, he got offered the fight and turns it down. Frankie is the former 155 champ, he can easily fight at that weight and I have no doubt that offer was also genuine, despite the fact people are desperate to claim that McGregor is 'ducking' him. It was short notice for both of them and they were both recovering from injuries, but that was true for McGregor when he fought mendes, I don't see why the offer to fight either of them at 196 wouldn't be considered legitimate
clever user name wrote: » I think what he meant is the fight would probably not have been for the featherweight belt, it would have been at 155. I highly doubt Conor could have made that weight on such short notice. Thus, there was less incentive for either to take the fight. However, I hold my hands up, I may be wrong, perhaps he could have made 145. I doubt it though. Either way, Edgar was injured. Aldo, well it just straight up refused it. So much for him running his mouth.
Swashbuckler wrote: » Ok so we won't agree to disagree! Conor is fit and able to defend the belt. When he offered the fight to Aldo and Frankie after RDA got injured he did so on 10 days notice. Frankie was injured and Aldo wasn't in camp. In saying that Aldo shouldn't have run his mouth of on twitter but the fact remains he wasn't in camp. Conor is fit and ready to defend the belt so he should defend the belt. The fact the ufc allow him to fiddle around in other weight classes is annoying. I understand why it makes sense money wise but it's not fair. I'm not slating McG. I just have an issue with him not defending the belt.
rusty cole wrote: » It's like putting your towel on the squat rack and going round the gym trying everything else whilst others who want to push their efforts are mad to squat!!! ah lads you cant squat, or at least not til I'm ready!! I may or may not decide to come get my towel!!!
darced wrote: » Did Conor offer to defend the belt at 196? I find that hard to believe.