Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

Depp

MichaelScarn wrote: »

Well he had gone from a "red panty night" fight with McGregor to being relegated to a fight night on a Thursday evening!

id agree there, something like that would definitely weigh heavy on your mind. whatever way you look at it a fight with mcgregor at the minute is lifechanging money

MichaelScarn

Ah lads,

Take a look at Dos Anjos record. For me there is nothing suspicious about his 20-7 record. 2 of his defeats came in the early days of his career. His next 2 defeats came in his first two UFC fights. Then he lost against Alvarez and Khabib.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_dos_Anjos#Mixed_martial_arts_career

Useful.Idiot

I didn't think RDA looked any lesser against Eddie than his other fights. He was doing well until he got caught. If he made it out of that round he would've come back with a vengeance I reckon. Really excited about his fight with Tony this weekend. Conor vs either of those two is a fight that has to be made.

Tazzimus

Tazzimus wrote: »

RDA also had his jaw broken before so I'd have thought he'd have a very suspect chin after that, yet Eddie just about beat him. He was rapidly running out of steam by the end of that flurry.

He has power no doubt but not as much as he thinks.
But then again I don't think he's stupid enough to try trade with Conor so he'll most likely just spam takedowns/clinch

yeah I agree, sure even the flying knee he threw just about gassed'em. That tells me he wasn't as confident as he made out. It reminded me of shane carwin V brock lesnar, carwin threw it all for a time and gassed out. McGregor will be picking shots cos he's a more mature patient fighter now post Diaz II I think.

this will be a great fight for a whole number of reasons but deep down I still think 12 weeks between both fights is a bridge too far! it could be a factor if he loses.

Lukker-

I hope he throws some spinning sh*t in this fight

I want a nice mix of flowy and calculated

Gamebred

RDA had a poor weight cut for that Alvarez fight too apparently, I suspect him of it of being on the mexican supplements (as I suspect most pro athletes tbf) while they could get away with it,look at his win over Pettis I've never seen somebody as fresh going into a 5th round in my life he barely took a breathe.

MichaelScarn

Gamebred wrote: »

RDA had a poor weight cut for that Alvarez fight too apparently, I suspect him of it of being on the mexican supplements (as I suspect most pro athletes tbf) while they could get away with it,look at his win over Pettis I've never seen somebody as fresh going into a 5th round in my life he barely took a breathe.

Bit off topic but Miesha Tate apparently had a terrible terrible weight cut for her fight against Nunes.

No wonders Conor pays big bucks for Lockhurst

Subcomandante Marcos

GL isn't actually that expensive. He works in % not flat fees so even the lower paid guys can afford him, the only difference is you won't have him on call for 2 weeks before fight week. He and him team tailor your plan as you go, send you meal plans and on fight week he keeps an eye on everyone and they get everything delivered. Having him staying in Kildare for the few weeks would have been expensive, but not mad money at all, 155 is an easy cut for Conor after years of 145.

Lukker-

MichaelScarn wrote: »

Bit off topic but Miesha Tate apparently had a terrible terrible weight cut for her fight against Nunes.

No wonders Conor pays big bucks for Lockhurst

Miesha Tate had trouble cutting because she was on a ketogenic diet. I'm surprised she didn't notice terrible performance in training and switch earlier.

The amount of fighters that rely on fad diets and bro science to get by is ridiculous. The likes of Mike Dolce makes $$$ from fighter ignorance, he's a total charletan.

Depp

Really think that any fighter who isn't bringing in someone like lockheart to help with nutrition in camp and the cut theyre making a big mistake. with the way the game has gone after the banning of IVs especially a good healthy cut is an essential part of the fight camp and not having an experienced pro to help with weight management is nearly as big an ommission from a camp as not having a striking coach or a bjj coach. can definitely see more guys like lockheart coming into the sport in a big way over the next few years.

MichaelScarn

If I remember correctly Conor weighed in at 168 pounds for the Diaz fight. Assuming he maintained the same weight, he'll only have to cut 10-15 pounds depending on weight fluctuations.

Shouldn't be the worst cut?

Lukker-

MichaelScarn wrote: »

If I remember correctly Conor weighed in at 168 pounds for the Diaz fight. Assuming he maintained the same weight, he'll only have to cut 10-15 pounds depending on weight fluctuations.

Shouldn't be the worst cut?

168 yeah, he was probably a bit heavier than that as the weigh ins are in the morning so he would have lost a fair bit of water weight overnight and he looked like he just rolled out of bed at the weigh in. I'd say he might be 170ish in the cage.

155 will be a breeze for him, have a look at how he looked on the scales vs Buchinger in Cage Warriors. Healthy and not depleted.

TheTownie

Lukker- wrote: »

Miesha Tate had trouble cutting because she was on a ketogenic diet. I'm surprised she didn't notice terrible performance in training and switch earlier.

The amount of fighters that rely on fad diets and bro science to get by is ridiculous. The likes of Mike Dolce makes $$$ from fighter ignorance, he's a total charletan.

Well Keto isn't a fad diet but certainly isn't suitable for high performance explosive activities like MMA fighting!

Miesha said she was Keto but I'd say she just eating more paleo foods most likely. She said she wasn't keeping track of macros and just eating what she felt she needed like saying she loved beet juice. :pac: About 25-30g of sugar per bottle of that stuff! I find it very hard to believe she was training with depleted glycogen stores and she didn't sound like she was paying enough attention to her diet to be attempting cyclic keto.

Anyway the diet for weight cut is totally different to the diet during camp.

Lukker-

TheTownie wrote: »

Well Keto isn't a fad diet but certainly isn't suitable for high performance explosive activities like MMA fighting!

Miesha said she was Keto but I'd say she just eating more paleo foods most likely. She said she wasn't keeping track of macros and just eating what she felt she needed like saying she loved beet juice. :pac: About 25-30g of sugar per bottle of that stuff! I find it very hard to believe she was training with depleted glycogen stores and she didn't sound like she was paying enough attention to her diet to be attempting cyclic keto.

Anyway the diet for weight cut is totally different to the diet during camp.

I was talking to a dietitian before about keto and ketosis in general. In her view it impairs cognitive and motor functions and limits muscle recovery significantly.

I have friends who have gotten good results cutting with it but they all said they really struggle for energy on it.

I don't really think it's ideal unless you are suffering from epilepsy or severe migraines where a high fat diet has shown to reduce symptoms in some studies (small sample size so far).

zweton

what time can we expect mc gregor fight to be on roughly?

JustTheOne

Remember he likes a bit of a cut to keep him focused.

Lukker-

zweton wrote: »

what time can we expect mc gregor fight to be on roughly?

6 AM. The card is an hour longer than normal due to how stacked the card is and because there is 3 title fights

wonderfullife

Gotta admire McGregor for taking the loyalty thing pretty seriously. Andrew McGahon and Ariel Helwani were 2 guys who gave him exposure on his way up and sure looks like he hasn't forgotten that in a hurry.

Any speculation on who the 4th member of the corner will be? We've got John, Roddy and Dillon locked in. The 4th spot probably between Sergey, Ido, and that young Moldovan wrestler Nikolay whose surname i always forget. Would have to go with Sergey but then again they gave young Conor Wallace a chance the last time.

MichaelScarn

wonderfullife wrote: »

Gotta admire McGregor for taking the loyalty thing pretty seriously. Andrew McGahon and Ariel Helwani were 2 guys who gave him exposure on his way up and sure looks like he hasn't forgotten that in a hurry.

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What did I miss?

TheTownie

Lukker- wrote: »

I was talking to a dietitian before about keto and ketosis in general. In her view it impairs cognitive and motor functions and limits muscle recovery significantly.

I have friends who have gotten good results cutting with it but they all said they really struggle for energy on it.

I don't really think it's ideal unless you are suffering from epilepsy or severe migraines where a high fat diet has shown to reduce symptoms in some studies (small sample size so far).

I'd like to see the studies that show cognitive and motor function impairment. Not expecting you to look for them obviously!

As for anecdotes they can work for both sides of any discussion.

Anyway veering off topic, keto has a place in the general population especially for those with obesity and issues like you outlined but as I said for MMA its not advisable.

Deadst4r

MichaelScarn wrote: »

wonderfullife wrote: »

Gotta admire McGregor for taking the loyalty thing pretty seriously. Andrew McGahon and Ariel Helwani were 2 guys who gave him exposure on his way up and sure looks like he hasn't forgotten that in a hurry.

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What did I miss?

https://twitter.com/PetesyCarroll/status/793519400473231361

Gamebred

McGahon shot his usual interview with Conor before he jets out to the U.S tonight,looking forward to it.

Saipanne

Has Mac ever been on the Joe Rogan Experience?

Depp

Saipanne wrote: »

Has Mac ever been on the Joe Rogan Experience?

nah, never, would probably be an interesting episode!

MichaelScarn

Saipanne wrote: »

Has Mac ever been on the Joe Rogan Experience?

No and I hope he doesn't bother. Rogan would be his sycophantic self and the interview would be worthless.

JJayoo

ChrisM wrote: »

It's great to see someone else is thinking a McG submission is worth a punt :-)

Alvarez has decent leg kicks, does anyone think he will use them as an initial game plan or plan B? Or would they be too risky with McGs range?

Against a guy like McG whose movement is one of his main attributes, Cruz would be another, leg kicks would be a good strategy,accumulate damage over early rounds and take away their ability to move. BUT not everyone has the ability to throw kicks and not everyone has the conditioned shins needed to repeatedly blast them.

Compare Michael Johnson's 20 unanswered first round leg kicks on Diaz vs RDAs leg kicks on Diaz.

McG used them beautifully against Diaz but that was because Diaz kinda refuses to check them, it wasn't because McG has built it as an effective weapon.

So in conclusion I haven't a clue

CatFromHue

Unless he relaxes him going on the Rogan podcast would be a tough listen.

He was on The Fighter and the Kid once and was as stiff as a board. I can't see him relaxing on US media like he was when he first did the rounds on Irish media before he got big.

TimRiggins

CatFromHue wrote: »

Unless he relaxes him going on the Rogan podcast would be a tough listen.

He was on The Fighter and the Kid once and was as stiff as a board. I can't see him relaxing on US media like he was when he first did the rounds on Irish media before he got big.

In fairness it must have been tough for him to sit there and listen to Schaub spout his sh!t.

Mean Laqueefa

TimRiggins wrote: »

In fairness it must have been tough for him to sit there and listen to Schaub spout his sh!t.

For sure Conor doesn't have the work ethic or critical thinking of Brandon

wonderfullife

Gamebred wrote: »

McGahon shot his usual interview with Conor before he jets out to the U.S tonight,looking forward to it.

did he mention that on the podcast?