Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

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wonderfullife

StringerBell wrote: »

Alvarez is a lot easier for Conor then a few of the LW's out there, RDA of course, even Cowboy if he could make it to the octagon without already being broken. He has the abilities to trouble him, not sure he has the mentality though.

That's the huge cherry for Conor, I would suspect he is well aware that Eddie represents a very good opportunity to win the belt, and is afraid he won't have it very long. (He won't.)

I strongly suspect Conor believes he can/would beat any of them at LW. He has insane confidence and i highly doubt he looks at potential matchups that way. His manager and the UFC might look at them that way, but i think Conor and Kavanagh have ridiculous self-belief. I genuinely feel they would gladly fight whoever has the belt.

Granted, Alvarez is a favourable match-up. I'd fancy him to walk through Eddie. Hopefully setting up a Cerrone bout for the title defence.

StringerBell wrote: »

Give him a shot at Alvarez in New York, no problem, but have him drop the belt first. It either means something or it doesn't, could have him fight Alvarez (jumping the queue but whatever) and have Aldo fight Holloway for the FW belt.

If the belt meant anything Bisping wouldn't be fighting Hendo.

It's only been 9 months since he won the belt. Aldo defended the belt 3 times in 3 years.

The division was going nowhere until Conor showed up.

If he is forced to vacate, which i feel the UFC will do to show who is boss, then it'll be Aldo v Max and if Aldo wins the division is buried again. There's nobody out there for Aldo beyond Max.

Yair Rodriguez at a push but the rest of the top 10 he has either beaten or is nowhere close to a title shot.


If Conor gets on NY card, and beats Eddie, then let him take a photo with the 2 belts on his shoulders and call a presser the following week stripping him of the 145 strap. Just let him create the bit of history then plough forward with Jose v Max.

funniest part of that video was at the end " he was a big boy in there, easily 190lbs,,,de c**t!!"

hilarious to hear in a thick Dublin accent, amidst all the PC brigade reporting etc!

JJayoo

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Would have to be at lightweight as Nate would never make 145.

Easy win for Nate for me as Aldo has only ever fought at lightweight once before and he lost.

Considering Conor ,a guy who doesn't throw leg kicks, made absolute bits of Nate's legs Aldo would probably kick them clean off.

Lukker-

JJayoo wrote: »

Considering Conor ,a guy who doesn't throw leg kicks, made absolute bits of Nate's legs Aldo would probably kick them clean off.

All hypothetical. Aldo fights orthodox, much easier for Nate to counter his inside leg kicks with a straight left than it is vs another southpaw. Would have a massive reach and size advantage.

sonofenoch

McGregor has the size and reach advantage over Aldo that Diaz has over him (probably more so) .......Diaz would eat Aldo alive

Tazzimus

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

I think that's kind of naive after Conor's last 2 fights, still think Edgar and Aldo have plenty chance against Conor. They're both better fighters than Nate.

How do you think it's naive? Not having a go just curious is all.

I'm not saying Aldo will be a walk in the park but I think Conor has the size and power advantage to spark him fairly easily if he connects. Tough as Aldo is I don't think he can take a good left from Conor,

I actually don't think any of the featherweights could if they went up against the version of him from the Diaz fight; It wouldn't make it past round 2. He was a lot more calculating in that fight, picked his shots, landed some beautiful counters.

Tazzimus

Tazzimus wrote: »

How do you think it's naive? Not having a go just curious is all.

I'm not saying Aldo will be a walk in the park but I think Conor has the size and power advantage to spark him fairly easily if he connects. Tough as Aldo is I don't think he can take a good left from Conor,

I actually don't think any of the featherweights could if they went up against the version of him from the Diaz fight; It wouldn't make it past round 2. He was a lot more calculating in that fight, picked his shots, landed some beautiful counters.

not to sound cliché but I agree, he actually evolved in that fight. He's actually more dangerous now I think and there are fighters that know it too. If he sat back and picked his shots, countered or lightly stalked aldo, he'd bounce em!

darced

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fitzparker

wonderfullife wrote: »

Yair Rodriguez at a push but the rest of the top 10 he has either beaten or is nowhere close to a title shot.

What do you make of Doo Ho Choi, i thought he looked very good the past few times I watched him especially the last fight against Tavares at fight night before 200. looked really relaxed. i think he could potentially climb the rankings for a title shot in the next 24 months

Call Me Jimmy

He looks so calm when he's fighting its incredible

Going to be tough for Conor from here on in Alvarez, Aldo, RDA, Khabib are all winnable fights for him but also very losable. He beat Nate by Majority decision who is a gatekeeper at lightweight, it was an amazing fight but who he fights next is going to be interesting.

JJayoo

rusty cole wrote: »

If he sat back and picked his shots, countered or lightly stalked aldo, he'd bounce em!

What if Aldo sat back and just focused on kicking McGs legs off? How does McG operate if his movement is limited?

Tazzimus

Deleted User wrote: »

Going to be tough for Conor from here on in Alvarez, Aldo, RDA, Khabib are all winnable fights for him but also very losable. He beat Nate by Majority decision who is a gatekeeper at lightweight, it was an amazing fight but who he fights next is going to be interesting.

Nate's also a lot more durable than those four put together.
That was one of the main factors of both fights, him and his brother can take ridiculous amounts of punishment and keep coming forward.

I think that may have hit Conor mentally in the second round of the first fight as well, he hit him with everything and he still kept coming.

Tazzimus

Tazzimus wrote: »

Nate's also a lot more durable than those four put together.
That was one of the main factors of both fights, him and his brother can take ridiculous amounts of punishment and keep coming forward.

I think that may have hit Conor mentally in the second round of the first fight as well, he hit him with everything and he still kept coming.

I think Aldo can beat Conor if he has a good game plan, Khabib could beat him also... now in saying that I also believe Conor could also beat both of them.

Aldo has been undefeated champions for so long and lost the first fight in 13 seconds. He has now beat Edgar and is now Interim champion and Conor hasn't defended the belt once, for Conors camp to say that there is no challenges at featherweight is bs. I would love to see Conor v Aldo 2 because I think it would be a much better fight, now I would put Conor as favourite but for sure Aldo could win that fight. Everyone seems to be forgetting just who Aldo is and how good he is.

John_D80

Deleted User wrote: »

I think Aldo can beat Conor if he has a good game plan, Khabib could beat him also... now in saying that I also believe Conor could also beat both of them.

Aldo has been undefeated champions for so long and lost the first fight in 13 seconds. He has now beat Edgar and is now Interim champion and Conor hasn't defended the belt once, for Conors camp to say that there is no challenges at featherweight is bs. I would love to see Conor v Aldo 2 because I think it would be a much better fight, now I would put Conor as favourite but for sure Aldo could win that fight. Everyone seems to be forgetting just who Aldo is and how good he is.

For so long I would have agreed with you 100% about Aldo, but man after seeing how much punishment and hardship McGregor can endure and also dish out, it really is hard for me to imagine any FW, even Aldo, being able to take his belt.

akelly02

John_D80 wrote: »

For so long I would have agreed with you 100% about Aldo, but man after seeing how much punishment and hardship McGregor can endure and also dish out, it really is hard for me to imagine any FW, even Aldo, being able to take his belt.

i agree

BUT

I still want to see the rematch. We are owed it after waiting this long

John_D80

akelly02 wrote: »

i agree

BUT

I still want to see the rematch. We are owed it after waiting this long

Most definitely. And my main wish to see it stems from a deep desire to see even more of McGregor critics silenced.

darced

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slicus ricus

darced wrote: »

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Diaz took the rematch with Conor for one reason only - Money! It definitely wasn't because he felt Conor deserved the chance to get his win back!

Swashbuckler

darced wrote:

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Agree 100%. A lot of people defended the second Diaz fight by saying Aldo defended x number of times in x number of years. There's no more excuses now. He should defend or vacate. He has been active and fought twice since he won the belt.

Saipanne

I don't see what Conor gets from the Aldo rematch. If he beats Aldo, he'll get no extra credit, and the bitter haters will make bull**** excuses. If he loses, then his first win was "obviously" a fluke.

I don't see the positives.

darced

darced wrote: »

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I agree 100% Aldo is a fuarking legend. I am a massive Conor fan, he is my favourite fighter for sure but you are not a champion until you defend your belt, also to not give a legend like Aldo is ridiculous.

Swashbuckler

Saipanne wrote:

I don't see what Conor gets from the Aldo rematch. If he beats Aldo, he'll get no extra credit, and the bitter haters will make bull**** excuses. If he loses, then his first win was "obviously" a fluke.

Number 1 contender in a division where he is champ. So he either vacates or fights Aldo. As an aside no matter what Conor does there will always be people who aren't satisfied. If Conor KOs aldo again there will be some excuse given by the haters.

Letree

He needs to defend the belt or drop it by end of year. I understand he would like to hold two belts and that aldo used to only defend it once a year or so. But he really can't go past Dec while still sitting on the belt. UFC playing a dangerous game letting the belts seem unimportant.

Myrddin

For all Conor has done for the UFC, I feel they should cut him one final bit of slack and give him a crack at Eddie, just so he has a chance of a photo of him holding two belts...which is what he wants very much. After that though, it's **** or get off the pot time. McGregor Aldo 2 will definitely happen, it's just a case of when.

Fromvert

There's three fights at featherweight I'd like to see McGregor fight, two being rematches

- Aldo (Interim Champ)
- Holloway (9 fight win streak since losing to McGregor)
- Frankie (top contender but is out of the title picture so is unlikely to happen. I've a feeling he'll end up at BW soon enough, can't beat Aldo and is a few wins away from another title shot at FW, maybe more if Aldo is champ. One good win at BW and he'll get that shot)

If they do the McGregor/Alvarez fight would they do Aldo/Holloway in the mean time?
This allows them to build the LW title fight as Champion vs Champion. Obviously the longer he doesn't defend his belt the more ridiculous the FW situation gets.

xtal191

Pettis could also be an interesting match up, depending how he gets on at featherweight.

Fromvert

xtal191 wrote: »

Pettis could also be an interesting match up, depending how he gets on at featherweight.

Agreed, needs a few good wins desperatley though.

wonderfullife

xtal191 wrote: »

Pettis could also be an interesting match up, depending how he gets on at featherweight.

I could be proven very wrong tomorrow but i have a feeling there's something seriously wrong with Pettis. Probably mentally. His last fight he looked scared.

29 isn't old, and he hasn't been in too many wars, but it's becoming increasingly possible that he is past his athletic peak.

It could just be that he couldn't handle the pressure of being champion. He was on the side of Cereal boxes and possibly in the top 3 or 4 most famous fighters only 15 months ago. And has gone 0-3 since then.

This is make-or-break for him i feel. A loss to Oliveira and going 0-4 should raise serious early retirement questions.

As for Aldo, more people would be sympathetic to his situation if he carried himself like a champion. Conor has proved in the past year that he genuinely does win and lose like a champion.

Jose has proved he's gracious in victory and a jackas$ in defeat. The stuff he has come out with since his loss is insane. If he took the loss on the chin, kept his head down, i think a lot more would be on his side when it comes to wanting to see the rematch.