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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). Read warning in 1st post

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The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 2.

The same rules as the last thread apply here. People seem to have strong opinions either way when it comes to McGregor and threads here tend to get a bit heated from time to time. Please keep it civil and discuss all things Conor in a mature way.
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newbbieb

Lukker- wrote: »

Ducking Khabib big time.

This is what happens when you give Bisping the choice of his next opponent. Woodley and Alvarez first thing to do is call out irrelevant/money fights.

Personally i don't think they gave Bisping his choice,i think his choice just so happened to coincide with their choice,the Bisping/Hendo fight is a no brainer,anything else would be pure madness.

But with Bisping,Alvarez and now Woodley all trying to do a Conor and call the shots and pick their fights Dana is gonna have to set down a marker and show them who is boss.

None of them are the draw Conor is or have the power he has and the UFC have to make an example of one of them and put a stop to fighters trying to make their own fights and i get the feeling it could be Alvarez getting fed to Khabib.

Lukker-

ASOT wrote: »

Eddie begging for the fight, pretty comical coming from a lad who has only one legit win in the UFC.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/8/9/12409856/morning-report-eddie-alvarez-says-conor-mcgregor-cant-fight-for-sh-t#388607415

Ducking Khabib big time.

This is what happens when you give Bisping the choice of his next opponent. Woodley and Alvarez first thing to do is call out irrelevant/money fights.

ASOT

Eddie begging for the fight, pretty comical coming from a lad who has only one legit win in the UFC.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/8/9/12409856/morning-report-eddie-alvarez-says-conor-mcgregor-cant-fight-for-sh-t#388607415

Mellor

Mendes didn't pop for steroids though.

It's probably skirting a bit too close to speculation.

[Deleted User]

Mellor wrote: »

He's about 11 1/2 stone soaking wet. I wouldn't have thought that was really into the realm of unattainable naturally tbh. There's no such thing as dense muscle. The muscular appearance is down to low bf%. Lots of bigger guys on the street would be carrying more muscle, they just cover it up with fat. They are also taller, I'm not ignoring that aspect either.

There's a website out there that speculates on which bodybuilders are natural based on the max natural muscle you can build statistically. No reason you couldn't apply it to fighters.

Of course, just because something could be natural doesn't mean it is.

Two of Diaz's close teammates have popped. Before their last fight, Conor said to Nate "You must of known, right"
...or words to that effect.

yeah I know gilbert melenedez and jake shields popped positive. Bodyfat or not, he looks juiced which is why he popped. tI watched a good BBC doc last week and couldn't believe the lengths and breaths all athletes are going to, just to win.

apparently 9 out of the last 20 tour de france winners have been stripped. fifty something UK rugby union players are banned at the moment for PEDs, Tim Montgomery said he knows for a fact in any one line up, only 1 sprinter, May be clean, "may"...

I think it's safe to say in a sport like MMA, there's a big drug culture (only my opinion now before anyone jumps down me throat). we're seeing it been revealed now with all the favourites popping and I'd say there's much more to come.

Mellor

rusty cole wrote: »

I like chad to be fair but his thick dense muscle with that separation and all that is just way to suspect. He has HGH and Testo written all over him. Begs the question, are all the Alpha malers jacked?? they seem to share a far superior dense muscularity that you dont see as obvious on others in their respective divisions. joseph benevides, Uriah faber and TJ all look unreal.

He's about 11 1/2 stone soaking wet. I wouldn't have thought that was really into the realm of unattainable naturally tbh. There's no such thing as dense muscle. The muscular appearance is down to low bf%. Lots of bigger guys on the street would be carrying more muscle, they just cover it up with fat. They are also taller, I'm not ignoring that aspect either.

There's a website out there that speculates on which bodybuilders are natural based on the max natural muscle you can build statistically. No reason you couldn't apply it to fighters.

Of course, just because something could be natural doesn't mean it is.

When the diaz brothers can point to a fighter and say they're on it, wouldn't it be fair to say his team mates knew? in the same way we all know when a lad in our own gyms is suddenly huge.

Two of Diaz's close teammates have popped. Before their last fight, Conor said to Nate "You must of known, right"
...or words to that effect.

Lukker-

rusty cole wrote: »

I like chad to be fair but his thick dense muscle with that separation and all that is just way to suspect. He has HGH and Testo written all over him. Begs the question, are all the Alpha malers jacked?? they seem to share a far superior dense muscularity that you dont see as obvious on others in their respective divisions. joseph benevides, Uriah faber and TJ all look unreal.

I'm not saying for sure but it's suspect alright. When the diaz brothers can point to a fighter and say they're on it, wouldn't it be fair to say his team mates knew? in the same way we all know when a lad in our own gyms is suddenly huge. And if so, wouldn't it be up to faber to say, hey if you're caught then folks may think we're on it too, unless they are and didnt see one of their own getting caught. worth considering at least no.

Hard to know, but I doubt it. TAM is a very wrestling orientated gym and those guys you mentioned came from wrestling. Fast twitch muscle heavy and a focus on explosiveness.

Tyron Woodley has the same body type, fighting at a higher weight class obviously and he hasn't popped (yet) and also comes from a wrestling background. They've been doing very specific conditioning their whole lives. I've seen a picture of Faber when he was 14 and he's still ripped to shreds.

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I like chad to be fair but his thick dense muscle with that separation and all that is just way to suspect. He has HGH and Testo written all over him. Begs the question, are all the Alpha malers jacked?? they seem to share a far superior dense muscularity that you dont see as obvious on others in their respective divisions. joseph benevides, Uriah faber and TJ all look unreal.

I'm not saying for sure but it's suspect alright. When the diaz brothers can point to a fighter and say they're on it, wouldn't it be fair to say his team mates knew? in the same way we all know when a lad in our own gyms is suddenly huge. And if so, wouldn't it be up to faber to say, hey if you're caught then folks may think we're on it too, unless they are and didnt see one of their own getting caught. worth considering at least no.

Tigger

ASOT wrote: »

Fairly sure the Mendes pic is ancient

its from 2014
http://mma-in-asia.com/region/japan/ulka-sasaki-confirmed-for-deep-on-may-25th-shares-thoughts-on-training-at-alphamale-and-his-ufc-dream/

ASOT

Fairly sure the Mendes pic is ancient

DrPhilG

Tazzimus wrote: »

I thought it might be an issue rolling with someone with lady parts, especially in positions like north south etc.

However, from experience, no. You're too busy trying to stop an armbar/guillotine/RNC/High mount etc to be thinking of the lady parts near or squished into your face. Women also tend to be more vicious than men I've found so that helps keep the Woody Harrelson at bay.

I do find myself very wary of where I put my hands. Scrambling past guard into mount or side often leaves your hands (and face) in danger of landing somewhere inappropriate.

Everybody needs a bosom for a pillow and all that, but not in the gym!

Tazzimus

rusty cole wrote: »

that's a good question, if you're sparring a girl. Imagine rolling with Tate!!:D

Just looking at Mendes today on line, so obvious he was eating the gear!

just saying!! it's one thing to be just off the couch, it's another to have just eaten said couch!

I thought it might be an issue rolling with someone with lady parts, especially in positions like north south etc.

However, from experience, no. You're too busy trying to stop an armbar/guillotine/RNC/High mount etc to be thinking of the lady parts near or squished into your face. Women also tend to be more vicious than men I've found so that helps keep the Woody Harrelson at bay.

Depp

rusty cole wrote: »

that's a good question, if you're sparring a girl. Imagine rolling with Tate!!:D

Just looking at Mendes today on line, so obvious he was eating the gear!

just saying!! it's one thing to be just off the couch, it's another to have just eaten said couch!

also dont know how much anyones seen of aul lance but itd be interesting to see how hed do with usada testing!

also does anyone know if fighters are tested during their suspension?

[Deleted User]

that's a good question, if you're sparring a girl. Imagine rolling with Tate!!:D

Just looking at Mendes today on line, so obvious he was eating the gear!

just saying!! it's one thing to be just off the couch, it's another to have just eaten said couch!

Subcomandante Marcos

bur wrote: »

Do guys ever get awkward boners training BJJ?

Asking for a friend.

Bjj thread is that-a-way

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But no. No, never. I guess if you had a squashing fetish or were into being choked maybe?

bur

Do guys ever get awkward boners training BJJ?

Asking for a friend.

JustTheOne

Mellor wrote: »

Not bad for a white belt...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHEdwiomEDM

Against nate though.

Mellor

Not bad for a white belt...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHEdwiomEDM

Mellor

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newbbieb

Think in Nates case its by design that he is saying this kinda stuff he done the same for the first fight and it worked well.

He has purposely decided not to get dragged into the pissing contest of trash talk where Conor eventually drags every opponent,and they start biting back and bragging about how easy they will beat Conor etc and it creates a pressure for them that they find hard to handle when fight night comes.

That is basically blunted as a tool in Conors arsenal if you take the kind of road Nate is taking and don't make vows to knock Conor out in the first round etc.

cloudatlas

Davei141 wrote: »

Translated: I wish Nate lied to me like most sportspeople. Pretty weird viewpoint to have.

Sure yep.

Davei141

cloudatlas wrote: »

I have gone off Nate a bit after he admitted on Conan that he goes in thinking, I might get knocked out but let's see how it goes. No athlete should ever go into competition with that attitude.

cloudatlas wrote: »

Yes but sports people don't say those kinds of things generally, you don't hear players, athletes say that they may lose.

cloudatlas wrote: »

I know that of course, I assume athletes have doubts, lots of private doubts that they don't voice out loud and I'm sure that it's a sport psychology technique to do what Conor McGregor does and say the positive over the top things that he says and have that dialogue playing constantly. Does he have doubts, probably yes. Will you hear him voicing them, no.

Translated: I wish Nate lied to me like most sportspeople. Pretty weird viewpoint to have.

cloudatlas

Saipanne wrote: »

You've no idea what really goes on in their minds. They are human and have fears, just like you.

I know that of course, I assume athletes have doubts, lots of private doubts that they don't voice out loud and I'm sure that it's a sport psychology technique to do what Conor McGregor does and say the positive over the top things that he says and have that dialogue playing constantly. Does he have doubts, probably yes. Will you hear him voicing them, no.

Saipanne

cloudatlas wrote: »

Yes but sports people don't say those kinds of things generally, you don't hear players, athletes say that they may lose.

You've no idea what really goes on in their minds. They are human and have fears, just like you.

cloudatlas

wonderfullife wrote: »

I'm not a sports psychologist by any means but i'd imagine a lot of fighters internally go through this.

As in telling themselves: "i could really get hurt, injured and embarrassed if i'm not on my A-game for this fight".

Kind of a motivational tool to focus the mind.

I'm sure, like every other fighter, he goes in fully believing he's going to win his fight. Otherwise he wouldn't make that walk.

Yes but sports people don't say those kinds of things generally, you don't hear players, athletes say that they may lose.

wonderfullife

cloudatlas wrote: »

I have gone off Nate a bit after he admitted on Conan that he goes in thinking, I might get knocked out but let's see how it goes. No athlete should ever go into competition with that attitude.

I'm not a sports psychologist by any means but i'd imagine a lot of fighters internally go through this.

As in telling themselves: "i could really get hurt, injured and embarrassed if i'm not on my A-game for this fight".

Kind of a motivational tool to focus the mind.

I'm sure, like every other fighter, he goes in fully believing he's going to win his fight. Otherwise he wouldn't make that walk.

Dave0301

jcd5971 wrote: »

He stated he was a casual fan, nothing wrong with that. We all started somewhere

Oh I know that, just a bit surprised that even a casual fan wouldn't know who the Middleweight champion is.

Wasn't having a go, so apologies if it came across like that!

jones 19

Who said mc Gregor is an irish Prince Nasseen ?

EagererBeaver

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

It works for him.

Thought the same myself, just a different type of psychology to use. Also, when reading it, it didn't come across as Nate literally saying he fully believes he'll get knocked out but more he openly acknowledges and confronts the very real possibility of it and once he's there, can look at improving things.

[Deleted User]

cloudatlas wrote: »

I have gone off Nate a bit after he admitted on Conan that he goes in thinking, I might get knocked out but let's see how it goes. No athlete should ever go into competition with that attitude.

It works for him.