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NIMAN

Whats the rules on NI/UK reg cars being caught without tax, or insurance, or MOT cert?

punisher5112

NIMAN wrote: »

Whats the rules on NI/UK reg cars being caught without tax, or insurance, or MOT cert?

Revenue do be very interested if republic licence holder. Otherwise quite difficult for any out of state registered vehicle to be found out.

pablo128

NIMAN wrote: »

Whats the rules on NI/UK reg cars being caught without tax, or insurance, or MOT cert?

If its taken by Customs, it's a different kettle of fish. Bigger fines for a start.

NIMAN

Can the Gardai confiscate them at the side of the road?

And I meant if they are driven by UK/NI residents. Not RoI residents.

Fred Swanson

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NIMAN

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Is this a bit of a grey area.

If a visitor from London drives their car over to us here, and isn't taxed or insured, why would it concern Revenue?

Fred Swanson

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punisher5112

Fred Swanson wrote: »

How would the Gardaí know it was not taxed or insured? Clean windscreen.

They can contact their friends overseas.

listermint

NIMAN wrote: »

Is this a bit of a grey area.

If a visitor from London drives their car over to us here, and isn't taxed or insured, why would it concern Revenue?

Well what happens if they hit someone here?

I hope your mate is caught and the car is taken off them by customs.


Just because they car has a yellow reg means that it should be free of our insurance laws ??

Just perplexing stuff altogether.

ohnonotgmail

listermint wrote: »

Well what happens if they hit someone here?

I hope your mate is caught and the car is taken off them by customs.


Just because they car has a yellow reg means that it should be free of our insurance laws ??

Just perplexing stuff altogether.

are you familiar with the concept of a hypothetical question?

listermint

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

are you familiar with the concept of a hypothetical question?

There is no such thing as a hypothetical question on boards. You would want to be some ninny to believe that.

Everyone has 'a mate' wants to know.

read between the lines buddy.

NIMAN

listermint wrote: »

There is no such thing as a hypothetical question on boards. You would want to be some ninny to believe that.

Everyone has 'a mate' wants to know.

read between the lines buddy.

I didn't ask the question for myself, or a mate. It actually was hypothetical in this instance (believe it or not).

Just that I check out this thread and it popped into my head since we have many NI cars driving around in Ireland, especially up where I live near the border.

I genuinely wondered if the Gardai can take your car off you if the tax is out of date? Of course the big problem now is that, afaik, NI cars don't display any tax discs on windscreens. And they never displayed insurance details, so spotting an untaxed, uninsured, un-MOTd NI car is likely next to impossible.

Was genuinely just wondering what powers they have.

Charles Babbage

NIMAN wrote: »

Is this a bit of a grey area.

If a visitor from London drives their car over to us here, and isn't taxed or insured, why would it concern Revenue?

Not grey at all. The right to import a vehicle temporarily, and gain exemption from duties etc, is dependent being legal in its home jurisdiction and having insurance.

Just that I check out this thread and it popped into my head since we have many NI cars driving around in Ireland, especially up where I live near the border.

Pretty much all NI cars are in Ireland, presumably this only arises if they visit the 26 counties.

NIMAN

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Not grey at all. The right to import a vehicle temporarily, and gain exemption from duties etc, is dependent being legal in its home jurisdiction and having insurance.
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But someone who drives across the border from North to South for a day trip, or who comes over on a weeks holiday from Wales, isn't looking to import a vehicle are they?

I'm sorry I asked the question at all now.:D

endagibson

listermint wrote: »

Well what happens if they hit someone here?

I hope your mate is caught and the car is taken off them by customs.


Just because they car has a yellow reg means that it should be free of our insurance laws ??

Just perplexing stuff altogether.

He specifically mentioned Revenue. I also don't see why Revenue would be interested in insurance. Motor tax yes, but insurance is for the Gardai only...unless they have an interest in the various insurance levies being paid and that gives them a remit.

CalamariFritti

Irish Steve wrote: »

There's a very simple answer to the problems of people that don't tax their cars. Do away with the road tax system, and put it on fuel instead.

Also solves the problem of the shyte that the manufacturers bring into Ireland with the smallest engine they make to avoid the problems of the tax being too high on the reasonable performance vehicles. If it's a gas guzzler, then the user pays for it, if it's actually cheaper on fuel because the performance is better balanced, win win for everyone, the manufacturer gets a better reputation for a good performance vehicle, the user has a safer car because it's a better performer, and the fuel economy means less pollution.

Also with politicians being what they are we would just end up paying double anyway.

As it happens that very thing happened in the 70ies I believe. They did away with road tax and lumped it onto the fuel. Only to be reintroduced later when the public started forgetting about, as they do now. Do you think they took it back off the fuel then when they reintroduced the motor tax?

inforfun

rex-x wrote: »

Sadly 90% of these cars will be back on the road only a couple of hours after they are taken, you can pick them up straight away!

In that case, lets upgrade those check points a bit and fit them with crushers in stead of recovery/tow trucks.

Riva10

NIMAN wrote: »

I didn't ask the question for myself, or a mate. It actually was hypothetical in this instance (believe it or not).

Just that I check out this thread and it popped into my head since we have many NI cars driving around in Ireland, especially up where I live near the border.

I genuinely wondered if the Gardai can take your car off you if the tax is out of date? Of course the big problem now is that, afaik, NI cars don't display any tax discs on windscreens. And they never displayed insurance details, so spotting an untaxed, uninsured, un-MOTd NI car is likely next to impossible.

Was genuinely just wondering what powers they have.

Road tax is only relevant to the country of origin. ie An english reg and english owned vehicle can be driven in 26 counties without english road tax. . Insurance is mandatory wherever it is driven and same rules apply as to an Irish uninsured vehicle.

boardsuser1

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/819117776682024960

boardsuser1

Several cases of no insurance every day now

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/819130594995085312

tossy

KC161 wrote: »

Several cases of no insurance every day now

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/819130594995085312

That's not brownstown. That's the first time I've ever seen a Garda checkpoint inside the curragh camp.

boardsuser1

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/819137714608078848

boardsuser1

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/819150069094121472

billie1b

KC161 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/819150069094121472

Thats a pretty famous Badge Number (username) you have there of a Garda in Blanch, hmmm......

boardsuser1

billie1b wrote: »

Thats a pretty famous Badge Number (username) you have there of a Garda in Blanch, hmmm......

I'm not a Garda. Although people have called me a blagguard :P:P:P

boardsuser1

Are people learning this new year?

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/819844589687308289

inforfun

Cold and **** weather. Think there were just not enough "candidates" out to catch.

dudara

5 times over the limit!

http://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/820215039634313216

colm_mcm

Lack of licence won't stop the likes of that person driving.

h3000

Deedsie wrote: »

Should be a lifetime ban from driving for me. Driving is a privilege. Name and shame needs to be introduced. Thoughtless, dangerous morons.

colm_mcm wrote: »

Lack of licence won't stop the likes of that person driving.

It needs to be a tougher punishment than a driving ban which will probably be ignored anyway. Jail and a massive fine.