Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

Ash.J.Williams

haveringchick wrote: »

As far as I'm aware nobody burst into a packed hotel in the middle of the afternoon brandishing AK47s as part of a feud about gambling or booze, so no, not the same thing at all

like in bugsy malone?

haveringchick

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

like in bugsy malone?

Yes BugsyMalone . In Dublin. In 2016.

end of the road

haveringchick wrote: »

Am, no, if heroin were decriminalised, then the Kinahans et all would lose all interest

yes exactly. you didn't state you support decriminalisation in your post though.

mynamejeff

haveringchick wrote: »

So you don't have any bad habits.
Hey, good for you, up there on your big high horse.

Is not being a drug user or dealer considered being up on a high horse to you ?

ok then but that says more about you than me to be fair ....

haveringchick

mynamejeff wrote: »

Is not being a drug user or dealer considered being up on a high horse to you ?

ok then but that says more about you than me to be fair ....

I'm just glad for you that you live such an exemplary abstemious life that non of your hobbies/habits will ever put any pressure on the health/SW systems

mynamejeff

haveringchick wrote: »

I'm just glad for you that you live such an exemplary abstemious life that non of your hobbies/habits will ever put any pressure on the health/SW systems

you know a lot of people in ireland arent junkies or drug addicts ?

a lot of people have jobs pay tax and contribute to the running for the county ?

I wouldnt call being a junkie a hobby either , ask any addict ....

and if your interested i believe that SW is important and should there to support those who fall on hard times . Its the professional dole monkeys that i object to. those who have never contributed anything apart from he tax on a box of john players and some cider .

whatawaster81

Tensions are high after a man points gun at guard on Francis Street.
http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/breaking-armed-officers-swarm-dublin-after-man-pointed-gun-at-garda

josephryan1989

A man has been brought to Pearse Street Garda Station.

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDFRhu9Kao8

Simon2015

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDFRhu9Kao8

I'll sleep better tonight knowing that Paul Williams is out there protecting us from these Scumbags:D

Sunnyisland

I just watched above programs , what a waste of an hour, nothing whatsoever informative about it, And P Williams must have been cringing when the guest criminologist was saying about the media glorified the said gangsters , him having made his living from such actions.

Is there any decent crime reporter left ?

BattleCorp

Sunnyisland wrote: »

I just watched above programs , what a waste of an hour, nothing whatsoever informative about it, And P Williams must have been cringing when the guest criminologist was saying about the media glorified the said gangsters , him having made his living from such actions.

Is there any decent crime reporter left ?

Who was the criminologist on the programme?

Sunnyisland

BattleCorp wrote: »

Who was the criminologist on the programme



DIT criminologist Matt Bowden.

arayess

Sunnyisland wrote: »

I just watched above programs , what a waste of an hour, nothing whatsoever informative about it, And P Williams must have been cringing when the guest criminologist was saying about the media glorified the said gangsters , him having made his living from such actions.

Is there any decent crime reporter left ?

John Mooney isn't the worst,
I bought his book Gangster on john gilligan and it was just far superior to anything paul williams wrote.

Mick McCaffrey wrote a decent enough book on the crumlin/driminagh feud but I find in recent years he is approaching williams level of hype.
That said , nobody does plain lies like paul williams

gladrags

Sunnyisland wrote: »

I just watched above programs , what a waste of an hour, nothing whatsoever informative about it, And P Williams must have been cringing when the guest criminologist was saying about the media glorified the said gangsters , him having made his living from such actions.

Is there any decent crime reporter left ?

It borders on voyeurism,and clearly Williams has
helped to glorify crime.

The fact of the matter is that for all the crap he comes out with,his rantings have done nothing to decrease the level of drug trafficking,or in bringing the guilty to justice.

His other half Paul whatshisname,who tries to emulate Williams in gutter journalism,is as bad.

Simon2015

Williams is the only Journalist "brave enough" to stand up to the Scumbags lol.

nacho libre

It seems INM are the only ones brave enough now to work with Paul Williams on his crime fighting crusade. I just can't wait for his new book

Lovely Bloke

Ballymun currently swarming with police, and the two choppers are above it.

I saw about ten or twelve bikes and cars speeding towards there this morning on the M50.

Poor Uncle Tom

It's murder going to the shops these days......

AudreyHepburn

I'll never understand why people have such a problem with Paul Williams....I really enjoyed his books and find him very interesting to listen to. The depth of his knowledge of Ireland's criminals is incredible and I like that, contrary what's being peddled above, he makes no bones about how low he thinks of them.

I just can't see where people are getting the idea that's a liar or glorifies crime from.

BattleCorp

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I'll never understand why people have such a problem with Paul Williams....I really enjoyed his books and find him very interesting to listen to. The depth of his knowledge of Ireland's criminals is incredible and I like that, contrary what's being peddled above, he makes no bones about how low he thinks of them.

I just can't see where people are getting the idea that's a liar or glorifies crime from.

He could be making it all up and we wouldn't know any different.

arayess

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I'll never understand why people have such a problem with Paul Williams....I really enjoyed his books and find him very interesting to listen to. The depth of his knowledge of Ireland's criminals is incredible and I like that, contrary what's being peddled above, he makes no bones about how low he thinks of them.

I just can't see where people are getting the idea that's a liar or glorifies crime from.

he is a liar, he invents stories or believes criminals sources and prints their rumours.
he also is a mouth piece for the gardai printing stories on their behalf .
You may think this is a good thing but printing lies causes rumour and in the criminal world that can have repercussions putting people at risk .

If you read his articles over time you notice he blames people (via nickname) for crimes that years later when somebody is charged they were not connected to the person he named or 6 months later he is blaming a different criminal for the same crime.

I also know that he is a d1ckhead and a bully.
I am very close friends with a chap I used to work with - 20 year friendship so i know my pal's family well.
He has one sibling in jail for serious gangland offences.
Not one of the rest of the family have any convictions or ties to criminality but Williams and the SW (he was with the SW at the time) harassed that family no end. doorstepping and calls to them continuously all dressed up up in a pompous attitude of "i'm a journalist".
Complaints to the gardai were ignored as he is their mate.

AudreyHepburn

BattleCorp wrote: »

He could be making it all up and we wouldn't know any different.

If he is, then he's got a seriously good imagination!

In all seriousness though, just because he exposes parts of society that make us uncomfortable or afraid is no reason to call him a twat or liar.

Show me proof he's lying and I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong....until then I'll assume people just want to bury their heads in the sand about our criminal underworld.

Boom_Bap

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Ballymun currently swarming with police, and the two choppers are above it.

I saw about ten or twelve bikes and cars speeding towards there this morning on the M50.

There were a few traffic accidents on the M50 at Ballymun today causing traffic chaos

Simon2015

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

If he is, then he's got a seriously good imagination!

In all seriousness though, just because he exposes parts of society that make us uncomfortable or afraid is no reason to call him a twat or liar.

Show me proof he's lying and I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong....until then I'll assume people just want to bury their heads in the sand about our criminal underworld.

Its well known that Williams makes stuff up.

He will take a low level criminal and make them out to be a major Gangster.

Then the person who he writes about will start playing up to their image by going around saying "do you know who I am..... I'm "Mr Big" I was in the Sunday World... Don't Mess with me" etc.

Thats how alot of these Gangsters start off by getting the papers to give them a reputation.

You don't make it in Ireland as criminal until the Sunday World or Paul Williams starts writing about you.

The flying mouse

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

If he is, then he's got a seriously good imagination!

In all seriousness though, just because he exposes parts of society that make us uncomfortable or afraid is no reason to call him a twat or liar.

Show me proof he's lying and I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong....until then I'll assume people just want to bury their heads in the sand about our criminal underworld.

The first book he wrote, the general was in fairness a good interesting read, but it put him into the position of forever trying to match that in future writings,be it in book form or tabloid, After Veronica's guerin was brutality murdered, Williams swiftly replaced Guerin as top dog at the Crime reporting in Ireland and set about creating the cult of Gangland by giving Ireland's criminals the one thing they craved the most but couldn't buy or steal: notoriety.

Using his columns he built up the profiles of various lowlifes and drug dealers, knowing that the more he wrote about them the bigger a target they would become. It is common knowledge that a few of his gangland stories has resulted in a few dead people,as the egos of said people get hurt.

He doesn't report crime he glamourises it for his own ego,he has no respect from his own journalists ,most Garda and even the people he writes about.

Supernintento Chalmers

There's even worse than Williams out there.

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/jailhouse-choc-fat-freddie-thompson-3630982

The flying mouse

Supernintento Chalmers wrote: »

There's even worse than Williams out there

I hate that word Tuck shop, and also the ridiculous writings of some of these so called reporters.

Is there not some oath you have to take when becoming a journalist ?

TallGlass

I thought Freddie was losing weight and working out?

DEFTLEFTHAND

TallGlass wrote: »

I thought Freddie was losing weight and working out?

That article is from a couple of years ago.