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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    After playing around with a few chars, I really like Torbjorn.

    I do not like Ilios map.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,287 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Just tell me which character to boot up first and I'll go from there (at some point in the next few days) :pac:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    After playing around with a few chars, I really like Torbjorn.

    I do not like Ilios map.

    I have seen good things mentioned about this char.
    I will probably watch a few videos before I start and see. Destiny I started with a Titan, Borderlands 2 was a psycho....... so the common theme for me is flaming projectiles..... who suits that in Overwatch? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Hmmmmm..... im debating who to play as now when I get overwatch...... Cormac have you a spreadsheet/flow-chart done for this situation yet?

    I'd honestly just play Mercy / Trojburn / Rheinheart / Soldier 76 for the 1st ~3 hours.

    Lets you get used to the game modes, maps, balance of the 4 types, and you have a choice of 1 from all 4 pools of Hero types

    I'll make a little table for tables sake. But I'm not an Authority on the subject (Totz, Kaiser etc might say stuff totally different to me).

    I'm really into the whole "Team Play - Team Win" thing as opposed to just running several poorly skilled Tracers (incl me) just cause that's what an App suggests
    After playing around with a few chars, I really like Torbjorn.

    I do not like Ilios map.

    That's cause he is useless on that map. Very little Vertical space, bad sight lines
    jonnycivic wrote: »
    I have seen good things mentioned about this char.
    I will probably watch a few videos before I start and see. Destiny I started with a Titan, Borderlands 2 was a psycho....... so the common theme for me is flaming projectiles..... who suits that in Overwatch? :pac:

    Trojborn is just easy mode. Place Turret and Babysit turret. He's situational though

    You'd probably like the Ranged Tanks, particularly Zaryha and Roadhog.

    Thing is, if you want to play overwatch the way people generally play Flaming Hammers, you're gonna have a bad time.
    It's all about team class synergy and if you want be lone wolfing getting kills, you're basically not gonna do that as a Tank.
    You'd be better off as Reaper. And we have tonnes of good Reaper players. Exaar is a BEAST as Reaper


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Cormac... wrote: »
    I'd honestly just play Mercy / Trojburn / Rheinheart / Soldier 76 for the 1st ~3 hours.

    Lets you get used to the game modes, maps, balance of the 4 types, and you have a choice of 1 from all 4 pools of Hero types

    I'll make a little table for tables sake. But I'm not an Authority on the subject (Totz, Kaiser etc might say stuff totally different to me).

    I'm really into the whole "Team Play - Team Win" thing as opposed to just running several poorly skilled Tracers (incl me) just cause that's what an App suggests

    I'll look into them first so and see how it goes :)

    Totz/Kaiser Im caalling you feckers out..... whats your input? :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    I'll look into them first so and see how it goes :)

    Totz/Kaiser Im caalling you feckers out..... whats your input? :P

    I dunno if Kaiser used Boards tbh. Me and Totz play together a LOT but thing is, we probably have vastly different individual experiences (he likes D.Va I do not), but a lot of the same Team experiences.

    I can be pretty vocal (like Sir Pryze) about where we are falling down class wise and why.
    Thing is I often can't execute on that strategy as some of the best counters to issues we have are Pharaoh, Hanzo, Widowmaker etc And they take a lot more practice, practice I don't have.

    All characters are rated 1 to 3 stars in therms of difficulty to use. (you click on their guide thingy to see it)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Cormac... wrote: »
    I dunno if Kaiser used Boards tbh. Me and Totz play together a LOT but thing is, we probably have vastly different individual experiences (he likes D.Va I do not), but a lot of the same Team experiences.

    I can be pretty vocal (like Sir Pryze) about where we are falling down class wise and why.
    Thing is I often can't execute on that strategy as some of the best counters to issues we have are Pharaoh, Hanzo, Widowmaker etc And they take a lot more practice, practice I don't have.

    All characters are rated 1 to 3 stars in therms of difficulty to use. (you click on their guide thingy to see it)

    Well add me to the group chat, I will have the game in my hands in an hour or so :D

    I can see later then how to go and sneak a few games in late tonight :D

    Oh did you like the haul I got of our UVHM play through? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,146 ✭✭✭dudeeile


    Last page of threads not loading for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,287 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    my copy is with parcel motel, so decent chance it gets to me tonight, probably not til after 10, at which point I won't be arsed going out to collect it. Might get a few hours on it tomorrow afternoon all going well though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,146 ✭✭✭dudeeile


    Bonus, more time for footbal tennis!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Here's some tables for tables sake

    Types:

    Offense Genji
    Pharah
    Soldier: 76
    Tracer
    Reaper
    McCree
    Defense Junkrat
    Widowmaker
    Hanzo
    Bastion
    Mei
    Torbjörn
    Tank Reinhardt
    Winston
    Zarya
    Roadhog
    D.Va
    Support Mercy
    Lúcio
    Symmetra
    Zenyatta

    Ratings (via http://www.pcgamesn.com/overwatch/best-overwatch-characters)

    S-Tier - The best Overwatch heroes Offense: Genji
    Tank: Reinhardt
    Support: Lúcio
    A-Tier - Getting close Offense: Pharah
    Defense: Mei
    Tank: Roadhog, Winston
    Support: Mercy
    B-Tier - The average Offense: Soldier: 76, Tracer, Reaper, McCree
    Defense: Junkrat, Widowmaker, Hanzo, Bastion
    Tank: Zarya
    Support: Symmetra
    C-Tier - Not great Defense: Torbjörn
    Tank: D.Va
    Support: Zenyatta

    How I would recommend spending your 1st 10 hours (very loose guide)

    1st 3 Hours (45 mins each) Offense Soldier: 76
    Defense Torbjörn
    Tank Reinhardt
    Support Mercy
    Next 4 Hours (30 mins each) Offense Pharah
    Offense Genji
    Defense Bastion
    Defense Junkrat
    Tank Roadhog
    Tank Winston
    Support Lúcio
    Support Symmetra
    Next 3 hours (45 mins each) Offense Tracer
    Defense Widowmaker
    Defense Hanzo
    Tank Zarya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    I added Jonny and Conovar to the chat, is that all I'm adding? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,281 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    I'll look into them first so and see how it goes :)

    Totz/Kaiser Im caalling you feckers out..... whats your input? :P

    I'm still only getting used to playing with half of the characters after a month. You'll find your own strengths and weaknesses fairly early on.

    Tbh, in group matches I just tend to go with the flow. If someone on the team suggests that we need a particular hero on side I'm happy to give it a lash. If it helps then great and if not then it's not a huge deal to switch to one you feel will help in the situation.

    Play vs AI games are kinda boring but a great way to get accustomed to characters. Plus you get decent enough XP from them. On hard difficulty and with a bunch of randoms, it's bloody tough enough too.

    Teamwork and communication is pretty vital, which may sound obvious but imo it's more true in this game than it is in Destiny (I even reduced myself to buying a new controller so my mic doesn't keep slipping out), due to the number of vastly different characters you can select and the different ways it's possible to effectively counter each possible opposing team composition depending on the way they're playing. Tactics can change immensely over the course of any one game.

    Lookit though. It's a very fun game to play and that's the main thing for me. Competitive is a bit of a shit show right now so I wouldn't be too worried about that in Season 1. Lots of balancing and other things like how matches are decided and what happens if someone leaves need to be sorted in that mode. Noobzerker was banned from competitive already for rage quitting :pac:

    Anyway, as said; snipers are badly needed. So hopefully one of you can master Widowmaker or Hanzo and make everyone's lives easier =p


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Anyway, as said; snipers are badly needed. So hopefully one of you can master Widowmaker or Hanzo and make everyone's lives easier =p

    I just took a look at a few videos for widowmaker and hanzo, hanzo is interesting with the bow so I might start there ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    I just took a look at a few videos for widowmaker and hanzo, hanzo is interesting with the bow so I might start there ;)

    Widowmaker is unfortunately not in a good place "Meta" wise apparently cause she was nerfed a bit, and has a really high skill curve.

    Hanzo is more forgiving if you can get over getting used to the arrow phyiscal drop off and the how to decide your draw lengths to mean you are moving better ADS/Not ADS

    Much more forgiving than Widowmaker IMHO, her gun is HARD to hit with I find. At least with Hanzos full force draws you can take on a Bastion or Torb Turret.

    Plus Hanzo has a really cheap a$$ ultimate power (imho) I f**king hate those dragons

    As Totz said, it's fun though, and yeah, try get "Good" with like 1/4 of the characters, then slowly add to that pool. Hoping between all 21 initially will be pretty unforgiving


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Widowmaker is unfortunately not in a good place "Meta" wise apparently cause she was nerfed a bit, and has a really high skill curve.

    Hanzo is more forgiving if you can get over getting used to the arrow phyiscal drop off and the how to decide your draw lengths to mean you are moving better ADS/Not ADS

    Much more forgiving than Widowmaker IMHO, her gun is HARD to hit with I find. At least with Hanzos full force draws you can take on a Bastion or Torb Turret.

    Plus Hanzo has a really cheap a$$ ultimate power (imho) I f**king hate those dragons

    As Totz said, it's fun though, and yeah, try get "Good" with like 1/4 of the characters, then slowly add to that pool. Hoping between all 21 initially will be pretty unforgiving

    The drop off I wouldnt mind as I got very used to that with snipers in BF3 and BF4, thats what kind of put me on Hanzo was the fact of the bow and the bit of skill required for range kills etc. Hanzo has dragons?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    He has "F**KING DRAGONS! F**K!" that's their official name


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Cormac... wrote: »
    He has "F**KING DRAGONS! F**K!" that's their official name

    You do realise what this means dont you...........

    I f**king love dragons and bows so Hanzo is now my main character and I dont care what any other fecker can do in this game :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    so Hanzo is now my main character and I dont care what any other fecker can do in this game :D

    You have just failed Overwatch :P


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Cormac... wrote: »
    You have just failed Overwatch :P

    I fail at everything so thats no suprise :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    Cormac... wrote: »
    I added Jonny and Conovar to the chat, is that all I'm adding? :confused:

    Giz an add to the chat group, I'll try to get on for a few games tonight.

    Is there a single player campaign to Overwatch, or is it just straight multiplayer? Do I need to level my gorilla up or can I just straight Chimp-out on fools?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Giz an add to the chat group, I'll try to get on for a few games tonight.

    Is there a single player campaign to Overwatch, or is it just straight multiplayer? Do I need to level my gorilla up or can I just straight Chimp-out on fools?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v72_J_FnqJM

    Give that a watch first :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Giz an add to the chat group, I'll try to get on for a few games tonight.

    Is there a single player campaign to Overwatch, or is it just straight multiplayer? Do I need to level my gorilla up or can I just straight Chimp-out on fools?

    There's a 2 minute tutorial and then you go straight into PvP Quick Play. There is no campaign

    Nothing in the game is hidden behind "levels" aside from Cosmetics and Competitive (locked behind level 25) a level 200 player has the same stuff as a level 5 player

    Hero Quick Start Guides

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6r9Nw8GeHE&list=PLrfgw3GXHaHlD93nftqYbL8bQYHfVBOhh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Don't Do What Donny Don't Does



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Cormac... wrote: »
    Don't Do What Donny Don't Does


    Yeah I watched that earlier, there was another with 10 things to know about Overwatch too that was worth a watch. Ill try find it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭wexdevil


    I threw in a quick photoshop into the bungie day tshirt competition, sure I dont have a hope but still :D

    https://www.bungie.net/en/Community/Detail?itemId=208676447


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,146 ✭✭✭dudeeile


    That's class man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,132 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Throw me into the chat group, been eyeing this as a purchase and now that I've finished Uncharted I'll bite the bullet.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Gearbox have announced they are working on Borderlands 3.......... Hell yeah, I want more Claptrap and Moxxi :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    Any good Utoobers to watch for Overwatch?


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