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Stade Francais vs Munster, Sat 9th January 4:45 Irish time; Sky Sports

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    #182
    molloyjh
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    Why was Killer on top of Saili in the defensive line for the try? Looking at it again his positioning was all wrong, and right under his own posts.


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    #183
    aimee1
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    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Also, fair play to the TMO Derek Bevan for calling it out
    Sean Brickell the touch judge looking straight at it didn't put flag up at all

    tbf i dont think the touch judge would have seen stander's face


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    #184
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Sean Brickell the touch judge looking straight at it didn't put flag up at all

    It was on the side away from him.


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    #185
    molloyjh
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    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Also, fair play to the TMO Derek Bevan for calling it out
    Sean Brickell the touch judge looking straight at it didn't put flag up at all

    Ah he was behind Stander when it happened. He could never have seen the gouge.


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    #186
    Risteard
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Was never going to be anything other than red but please don't forget that you're watching these things in slow motion. The guy isn't a scumbag, he just lost his head for a split second. Hopefully it's nothing more than a few games out.

    Nah hopefully it's a good long break, gouging along with biting are the dirtiest things you can do. Most players that lose the head will throw a few digs at most not try and take someone's eye out.


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    #187
    .ak
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    Buer wrote: »
    He curls his finger into the eye. That's red.

    As much as I dislike Derek Bevan, that's a good spot.

    Clear red all day. Absolutely stupid, a hand to the face would've been brushed off but he hooks his fingers to gouge.

    I'm on the record for saying I think the game is going soft but I think gouging is absolutely the worst thing you can do on a rugby pitch. Scummy act.


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    #188
    captbarnacles
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    Don't think I've ever seen such a clearly intentional gouge. You can see finger press right into the eye.


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    #189
    Mahatma Geansai
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    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Also, fair play to the TMO Derek Bevan for calling it out
    Sean Brickell the touch judge looking straight at it didn't put flag up at all

    Stander told the touch judge that he had been gouged, but he ignored it. Poor officiating.


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    #190
    aimee1
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    captbarnacles wrote: »
    Don't think I've ever seen such a clearly intentional gouge. You can see finger press right into the eye.

    you should watch ulster v stade from about 5-6 years ago


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    #191
    wp_rathead
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    Yes he wouldn't have seen the gouging but he saw hand make contact with his face - and Stander then signaled to him that he made contact with his eyes
    He could have let Owens know and then maybe it would have been brought upstairs
    instead it took an intervention from Bevan to let Owens know there was anything


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    #192
    phily2002
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    really stupid and dirty, also seemed to lead in with elbow, don't know what he was thinking


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    #193
    aimee1
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    Mahatma Geansai wrote: »
    Stander told the touch judge that he had been gouged, but he ignored it. Poor officiating.

    could the TJ not just have thought Stander was complaining about the hand in the face? He cant report what he hasnt seen


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    #194
    Hagz
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    Mahatma Geansai wrote: »
    Stander told the touch judge that he had been gouged, but he ignored it. Poor officiating.

    The touch judge is the one who brought it to Nigel's attention :rolleyes:


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    #195
    Clegg
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    Keatley has been poor again.


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    #196
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    Hagz wrote: »
    The guy isn't a scumbag, he just lost his head for a split second. Hopefully it's nothing more than a few games out.

    No.Lenghty ban hopefully. Months.

    The game has got a bit too protective of late tackles, collisions in the air, and balance has tilted to players being too easily penalised on some points.

    But gouging just has to be cut out. Long ban the only way to make it not pay.


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    #197
    Mahatma Geansai
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    Hagz wrote: »
    The touch judge is the one who brought it to Nigel's attention :rolleyes:

    The TMO brought it up afaik.


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    #198
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    Mahatma Geansai wrote: »
    Stander told the touch judge that he had been gouged, but he ignored it. Poor officiating.

    Touch judges much flag what a player tells them ?


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    #199
    aimee1
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    Mahatma Geansai wrote: »
    The TMO brought it up afaik.

    TMO would have seen the incident and would have reviewed it. Stander's reaction, the TJ reacted to what he thought was a hand on face. Its good officiating. They cant see everything in real time because it happened in 2 seconds.


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    #200
    Mahatma Geansai
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    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Touch judges much flag what a player tells them ?

    If a player tells you they have been gouged, it should be looked it.


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    #201
    Mahatma Geansai
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    Boring in on John Ryan.


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    #202
    wp_rathead
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    Hagz wrote: »
    The touch judge is the one who brought it to Nigel's attention :rolleyes:

    it was the TMO who brought it too Nigels attention

    I'm with MG - was poor by Brickell. All you want is officials working together- he just seemed to ignore whole thing


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    #203
    Hagz
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    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    No.Lenghty ban hopefully. Months.

    The game has got a bit too protective of late tackles, collisions in the air, and balance has tilted to players being too easily penalised on some points.

    But gouging just has to be cut out. Long ban the only way to make it not pay.

    I'm not going to get into a full scale debate on the matter as people can rarely view situations such as this objectively, but eye gouging ordinarily is deserving of a lengthy ban, no doubt about that.


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    #204
    molloyjh
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    Saili needs to start passing the fecking ball.


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    #205
    Interested Observer
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    Stade showing what they need to do to win the game - keep it in the forwards. That scrum was just nasty.


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    #206
    Bridge93
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    Sherry lucky there potentially. If that went to the scrum it should've been that's another 3 points for Stade


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    #207
    twinytwo
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    Clegg wrote: »
    Keatley has been poor again.

    I take it mean, more of the usual?... for him to be playing poorly, his standard would need to be much higher... it isnt... this is it.


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    #208
    Clegg
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    Keatley having a bit of a mare tonight.


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    #209
    vienne86
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    Jamie Heaslip
    Aw Keatley - ugh. And he seemed to start well.


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    #210
    molloyjh
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    Keatley takes ball with space out wide. Nah it's grand I'll kick it out on the full thanks.


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    #211
    Interested Observer
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    Keatley again, just not good enough.


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