Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

tbiggertycome

Upcoming club fixtures on Saturday 17th

S.H.L. Group A
Round Venue
Rd 5 5 00 PM Thomastown, O'Loughlin Gaels v Ballyhale Shamrocks
Rd 5 5 00 PM Freshford, Clara v Danesfort
Rd 5 5 00 PM Tom Ryall Park, Erins Own v Mullinavat

Ps Tm Pt P W L D For Against
1 BaSh 6 4 3 1 0 6 - 66 7 - 43
2 O'LG 6 4 3 1 0 7 - 56 3 - 50
3 ErOn 4 4 2 2 0 4 - 51 5 - 43
4 Mulv 4 4 2 2 0 8 - 49 8 - 61
5 Clara 2 4 1 3 0 2 - 57 2 - 63
6 Danf 2 4 1 3 0 5 - 46 7 - 65

S.H.L. Group B
Round Venue
Rd 5 5 00 PM Gowran, Dicksboro v Rower Inistioge
Rd 5 5 00 PM Tullaroan, Fenians v Bennettsbridge
Rd 5 5 00 PM Ballyragget, St Martin's v James Stephens

Ps Tm Pt P W L D For Against
1 Dksb 6 4 3 1 0 6 - 59 5 - 44
2 JmSt 5 4 2 1 1 6 - 61 2 - 62
3 StMr 5 4 2 1 1 8 - 49 2 - 61
4 Bnbr 3 4 1 2 1 6 - 60 8 - 57
5 RoIn 3 4 1 2 1 1 - 51 4 - 47
6 Fenn 2 4 1 3 0 3 - 55 9 - 64

I.H.L. Group A
Round Venue
Rd 5 2 00 PM John Locke Park, St Lachtain's v Carrickshock
Rd 5 2 00 PM Palmerstown, Lisdowney v Dunnamaggin
Rd 5 2 00 PM Inistioge, Tullogher Rosbercon v Thomastown

Ps Tm Pt P W L D For Against
1 Cshk 6 4 3 1 0 3 - 59 4 - 41
2 TuRs 4 4 2 2 0 5 - 51 3 - 52
3 Duna 4 4 2 2 0 2 - 58 3 - 56
4 Thtn 4 4 2 2 0 4 - 57 3 - 68
5 StLc 4 4 2 2 0 2 - 53 3 - 62
6 Lisd 2 4 1 3 0 3 - 58 3 - 57

I.H.L. Group B
Round Venue
Rd 5 2 00 PM Dr Tierney Park, Glenmore v Young Irelands
Rd 5 2 00 PM Johnstown, Tullaroan v St. Patrick's
Rd 5 2 00 PM Clara, Graigue Ballycallan v Conahy Shamrocks

Ps Tm Pt P W L D For Against
1 Tulr 8 4 4 0 0 9 - 73 5 - 51
2 Glen 6 4 3 1 0 2 - 64 2 - 53
3 GrBC 4 4 2 2 0 3 - 56 2 - 68
4 StPt 4 4 2 2 0 3 - 66 2 - 58
5 YnIr 2 4 1 3 0 3 - 57 6 - 61
6 CnSh 0 4 0 4 0 4 - 41 7 - 66

tbiggertycome

My predictions in bold

tbiggertycome wrote: »

Upcoming club fixtures on Saturday 17th

S.H.L. Group A
Round Venue
Rd 5 5 00 PM Thomastown, O'Loughlin Gaels v Ballyhale Shamrocks -O'Loughlins
Rd 5 5 00 PM Freshford, Clara v Danesfort -Danesfort
Rd 5 5 00 PM Tom Ryall Park, Erins Own v Mullinavat -Erins Own

Ps Tm Pt P W L D For Against
1 BaSh 6 4 3 1 0 6 - 66 7 - 43 OLG=8
2 O'LG 6 4 3 1 0 7 - 56 3 - 50 BaSh=6
3 ErOn 4 4 2 2 0 4 - 51 5 - 43 ErOn=6
4 Mulv 4 4 2 2 0 8 - 49 8 - 61 Mulv=4
5 Clara 2 4 1 3 0 2 - 57 2 - 63 Danf=4
6 Danf 2 4 1 3 0 5 - 46 7 - 65 Clara=2

S.H.L. Group B
Round Venue
Rd 5 5 00 PM Gowran, Dicksboro v Rower Inistioge -Dicksboro
Rd 5 5 00 PM Tullaroan, Fenians v Bennettsbridge -Draw
Rd 5 5 00 PM Ballyragget, St Martin's v James Stephens -James Stephens

Ps Tm Pt P W L D For Against
1 Dksb 6 4 3 1 0 6 - 59 5 - 44 Dksb=8
2 JmSt 5 4 2 1 1 6 - 61 2 - 62 JmSt=7
3 StMr 5 4 2 1 1 8 - 49 2 - 61 Bnbr=5
4 Bnbr 3 4 1 2 1 6 - 60 8 - 57 StMr=4
5 RoIn 3 4 1 2 1 1 - 51 4 - 47 RoIn=4
6 Fenn 2 4 1 3 0 3 - 55 9 - 64 Feni=3

I.H.L. Group A
Round Venue
Rd 5 2 00 PM John Locke Park, St Lachtain's v Carrickshock -Carrickshock
Rd 5 2 00 PM Palmerstown, Lisdowney v Dunnamaggin -Dunnamaggin
Rd 5 2 00 PM Inistioge, Tullogher Rosbercon v Thomastown -Tullogher

Ps Tm Pt P W L D For Against
1 Cshk 6 4 3 1 0 3 - 59 4 - 41 Cshk=8
2 TuRs 4 4 2 2 0 5 - 51 3 - 52 TuRs=6
3 Duna 4 4 2 2 0 2 - 58 3 - 56 Duna=6
4 Thtn 4 4 2 2 0 4 - 57 3 - 68 Thtn=4
5 StLc 4 4 2 2 0 2 - 53 3 - 62 StLc=4
6 Lisd 2 4 1 3 0 3 - 58 3 - 57 Lisd=2

I.H.L. Group B
Round Venue
Rd 5 2 00 PM Dr Tierney Park, Glenmore v Young Irelands -Glenmore
Rd 5 2 00 PM Johnstown, Tullaroan v St. Patrick's -Tullaroan
Rd 5 2 00 PM Clara, Graigue Ballycallan v Conahy Shamrocks -GraigueBC

Ps Tm Pt P W L D For Against
1 Tulr 8 4 4 0 0 9 - 73 5 - 51 Tulr=10
2 Glen 6 4 3 1 0 2 - 64 2 - 53 Glen=8
3 GrBC 4 4 2 2 0 3 - 56 2 - 68 GrBC=6
4 StPt 4 4 2 2 0 3 - 66 2 - 58 StPt=4
5 YnIr 2 4 1 3 0 3 - 57 6 - 61 YnIr=2
6 CnSh 0 4 0 4 0 4 - 41 7 - 66 CnSh=0

Beffs

Does Eddie Brennan still line out for his club, now that he is the u21 manager, or did he pack it in?

JJs Left Hand

You docked Martins a point for losing. Harsh.

Is it done on head to head or score difference if points are level?

citykat

Head to head first followed by score difference.

tbiggertycome

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

You docked Martins a point for losing. Harsh.

Is it done on head to head or score difference if points are level?

Very true, sorry a typo a sure them Muckalee lads need to be taken down a peg or two anyways.:D

Cornerback1

Provisional fixtures for the National League 2017:

Round 1 Sunday 12th Feb KK V Waterford

Round 2 Sunday 19th Feb Clare V KK

Round 3 Sunday 5th March KK V Cork

Round 4 Saturday 11th March Tipp V KK

Round 5 Sunday 26th March Dublin V KK

All in all, 2 at home and 3 away games with 1 on Saturday evening under lights in Thurles.

Cornerback1

ProudDUB wrote: »

Howdy folks.

Anyone know where I'd be able to find the full Sunday Game broadcasts (both the live broadcast and the evening show) of the 2007, 2008 and 2011 AI finals? I've been able to find the games on You Tube, but they only go from throw in, to final whistle. They don't have the pre and post game coverage, or if they do, it's just a few minutes. I haven't been able to find anything of the evening shows, on either You Tube or on the GAA & RTE websites.

Wouldn't mind getting the 2012, 2014, 2015 Up For Matches too, but they aren't as important.

Am asking for an elderly KK friend who is going in to hospital for an extended period of time. Ta.

Not sure. Did you contact RTE although they'd probably charge you!!!!

ProudDUB

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Not sure. Did you contact RTE although they'd probably charge you!!!!

No, not yet. I'm hoping to find it on the interweb. You Tube has a lot of stuff, but there is no rhyme or reason as to what is put up.

unrealtime

Hopefully that handshake is confined to history. If it persists it should be known as the loony handshake kinda after its inventor.

audi12

ProudDUB wrote: »

No, not yet. I'm hoping to find it on the interweb. You Tube has a lot of stuff, but there is no rhyme or reason as to what is put up.

thats cause its different people putting up different video utube dont put up videos themselves.

Michael Kavanagh

ProudDUB wrote: »

No, not yet. I'm hoping to find it on the interweb. You Tube has a lot of stuff, but there is no rhyme or reason as to what is put up.

Would that crowd sideline that put all the championship together on dvd I think they are part of the rte archive.

ProudDUB

audi12 wrote: »

thats cause its different people putting up different video utube dont put up videos themselves.

Yeah, I know how You Tube works. I was just hoping someone might know of a specific body, organization or channel that has put up the footage I am looking for. This crowd ( https://www.youtube.com/user/GaelicGames2012 ) have everything that I need for 2012, but for whatever reason, '07, '08 & '11 is in short supply.

Contacting RTE is a last resort, as I'm hoping to find it on the internet first.

kksaints

ProudDUB wrote: »

Yeah, I know how You Tube works. I was just hoping someone might know of a specific body, organization or channel that has put up the footage I am looking for. This crowd ( https://www.youtube.com/user/GaelicGames2012 ) have everything that I need for 2012, but for whatever reason, '07, '08 & '11 is in short supply.

Contacting RTE is a last resort, as I'm hoping to find it on the internet first.

Think you will have to pay if you want RTE archive footage. I remember reading that a football club asked RTE for any archive footage for a DVD and got a quote in excess of €10000

kkclubhurling

Looking forward to the Club hurling this evening, should be some decent games.

I'd imagine for most teams in Group A, it'll be a preparatory exercise for what is to come over the next few weeks, they're isn't a huge amount to play for other than small positional swaps and for that reason i'd expect that any players suffering from knocks or small injuries etc are going to be left out and held back till Championship kicks off over the next few weeks.

The other group throws up a few more interesting battles as there is still plenty to play for-

Fenians vs The Bridge

This is an all important relegation showdown with both teams knowing a win and results going their way elsewhere would see them out of the bottom two for the year. I suppose on paper the Bridge would have to be favorites, they have Rob Lennon anchoring the defence, Liam Blanchfield usually operating at full forward and the promising Sean Morrissey floating around the half forward line. Jason Cleere and Enda Morrissey are both very good operators around the backline as well. However, the Fenians are the Fenians and they relish days like this, obviously JJ Delaney is still a massive player for them, PJ Ryan was injured the last few games and I don't know his situation but he is a massive loss if not available in the goal. Willie Brennan can be very effective for Fenians and they'll need the likes of him and Conor Tobin to step up big time if they're to escape the clutches of relegation for another year. You'd have to like the look of the Bridge but as always, there is something about the Fenians.

Rower vs The Boro

The Boro know that win lose or draw they are definitely in the top 2, and while i'm sure they'd love a league final, in the larger scheme of things this game is all about fine tuning for championship. They've got a very good mix of youth and experience and Mulrooney and Mickey Walsh have really had them flying for most of the year. Evan Cody at fullback is strong and quick and consistently good for them, in the halfback line Conor Doheny is a classy hurler and obviously Buckley beside him can dominate a game at this level. Their midfield and forwards have operated very well all year, Ollie Walsh was flying it in earlier rounds as was Paul O'Flynn, Andy Gaffney is a serious sharp shooter and Stephen Farrell at CF can catch fire on any given day. The Rower on the other hand started this year fairly slow, they have Kieran Joyce at CB and most of the guys around have been chopped and changed so far this year. Richie Leahy is obviously an extreme talent but hasn't yet found that consistency you'd want from your players. The Rowers main problem is they haven't really found that scoring touch yet, they need the likes of Michael Grace to really get scoring and bring some of the younger lads around him into the game. Still though the Rower need a result a lot more than the Boro and sometimes its hard to overlook that desperation.

Village vs Martins

A shootout to see which team can avoid hurling first round of the championship next weekend, I'd expect this to be a good game. The Village have been a bit hot and cold this year, drawing with the Bridge, losing to the Boro and beating the Rower and Fenians. They did win the Byrne cup a few weeks back, and in fairness it was a much better competition this year than it had been in recent years. However, it is not a litmus test for whats to come. The Village will be hopeful for big performances from Jackie, young Cody and obviously Eoin Larkin, but the likes of Matthew Ruth and Tomas Keogh both have big roles at opposite ends of the pitch too. Luke Scanlon is another guy we could really see shine for the Stephens this year aswell. Martins will be relatively pleased with their year up to now, they're a tough team and John Maher is a serious scoring threat, Tom Breen is hurling brilliant stuff all year too and the young midfield of Coady and Kinsella are fast and skilful hurlers. They're probably a bit young yet to go far this year but they should certainly have a good game against the other Red and Greens.

minty81

Comprehensive win for the Bridge. Played some lovely hurling. Jason Cleere dominant centre back and surely has to get a few runs in next years league.
Kevin Blanchfield, Aidan Cleere excellent too and Liam Blanchfield proved a real handful for JJ.
Fenians were very poor. 40 mins in before they got a score from play.
They've been on the edge for a good few years but if they stay up this year it'd be their greatest houdini act!

blackcard

Tullaroan look the class act at Intermediate level, having a surprisingly easy win over Ballyragget for whom Kevin Kelly did not play but Tommy Walsh or Martin Keoghan did not start for Tullaroan either. In the other five matches at this level, the winning margin was two points or less. Eoin Murphy and Ger Aylward were not listed to start for Glenmore. At senior level, you would think that the relegation play off will be between Fenians and Danesfort with the latter favourites to survive. Fenians were poor against Bennettsbridge and don't seem to have good enough forwards. JJ Delaney made a few trademark catches but he couldn't stop the tide. The Bridge look to have a few tidy hurlers but the Fenians probably made them look better than they are. The senior championship looks to be wide open. My ranking would be Shamrocks, O'Loughlins, Clara, Dicksboro, Stephens

Dyr

kksaints wrote: »

Think you will have to pay if you want RTE archive footage. I remember reading that a football club asked RTE for any archive footage for a DVD and got a quote in excess of €10000

RTE will charge you through the bollix for archival footage that you intend to use for broadcast etc. Which is a nerve considering that they are a public service broadcaster, I dunno if theres a workaround for private viewing.

I often wondered if someone hit them with request for copies under the FOI act how that might work.

dobbs2210

Muckalee full value for 5 point win against James Stephens were atrocious after a very bright start. Village finish only one point above relegation zone. Outside of luke hickey jackie tyrell and Matt ruth they were terrible. Muckalee were excellent worked the ball around very well and got some great scores in chief through Shane Kinsella tom breen and paul maher who was a constant thorn in the village side. Muckalee will trouble any side in qtr final.

Hawkeye6

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

The football matches are at 11.00 in the morning... What's the problem?

And Kilkenny Camogie is a different association and they have their own website.. Again, what's the problem?

HUGE WELL DONE TO THE KILKENNY SENIOR AND INTERMEDIATE CAMOGIE TEAMS.
they deserve every compliment and recognition they get for their ALL-IRELAND victories, both team and managements. The GAA fans in the county are proud of your achievements.

Comments above from JJLH is typical of a chauvinist who pretends to be a Kilkenny GAA fan. How many were at "your" football match JJLH? Only one semi went ahead, so if you are a "real" fan you would have been there, wouldn't you... One team withdrew, they so happened to have two players involved in the intermediate final at 2pm and 2 more in the senior. Bearing in mind the earliest the football match would have been over without extra time and the travel time to get to Croke Park from Ballyhale. Then again you were never at the minor hurling final when Kilkenny were in it either were you.. Your knowledge is gleaned in Quinns or the Big Tree or simliar establishment.

Of course with the biggest crowd at a Camogie All-Ireland final since the 1930's and the biggest EVER TV audience for a Camogie All-Ireland final, the real insult was for the footballers and the competition itself. The county board issued a directive that NO matches should go ahead on the Sunday of the Camogie All-Ireland finals when Kilkenny were historically involved in both finals, yet the football board fixed the two Intermediate semi finals for that date. The girls deserved better respect from the football board and the footballers in the county certainly deserved better respect from the football board. Sadly only the real GAA fans of Kilkenny will care that this happened. It is a scandal that will go unmentioned until the minors footballers are "thrashed" again. Then we'll see all the experts pop out of the woodwork again. To fix those games for that date is huge issue as it highlights the problems for football, but very few care. Even the clubs involved didn't care enough to make an issue of it.

Btw, It is true the Camogie is a different association, but it is also true the mission of both and also the ladies football and handball are all the same.

JJs Left Hand

Eh, what?

Amazing what you've learned about me from that 2 line post.

Topcat32

dobbs2210 wrote: »

Muckalee full value for 5 point win against James Stephens were atrocious after a very bright start. Village finish only one point above relegation zone. Outside of luke hickey jackie tyrell and Matt ruth they were terrible. Muckalee were excellent worked the ball around very well and got some great scores in chief through Shane Kinsella tom breen and paul maher who was a constant thorn in the village side. Muckalee will trouble any side in qtr final.

Anybody on the St Martins team worth looking at for the county team, in my experience they were always one of the hardest teams you could play against, but could really hurl too, but their players always seem to struggle to fit in with the county scene for some reason, last and I think only one to make it in the recent past is Eamon Morrissey even tho their club team has been consistently string for the last 30 years or so

JJs Left Hand

Not really. All our players are in their mid to late 20s. Tom Breen is probably our best player and he's been in and out of the panel already. Brian Coady was with the minors this year so hopefully he continues to progress. Paul Maher hit around 1-5 from full forward on Saturday. I doubt there was many in the parish that had any expectations this year so to top the group is fantastic.

blackcard

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

Not really. All our players are in their mid to late 20s. Tom Breen is probably our best player and he's been in and out of the panel already. Brian Coady was with the minors this year so hopefully he continues to progress. Paul Maher hit around 1-5 from full forward on Saturday. I doubt there was many in the parish that had any expectations this year so to top the group is fantastic.

Tbh I thought that Martin's might be in a relegation battle this year but they have played consistently well. Any reason for their turnaround in for.?

davidx40

Disgraceful carry on by Dunnamaggin gaa weekend refused to play minor fixture , never had decency to notify opponents, ref and opponents turned up, ref through in ball they scored match over , county board are livid with there behaviour

phkk

blackcard wrote: »

Tbh I thought that Martin's might be in a relegation battle this year but they have played consistently well. Any reason for their turnaround in for.?

Who's training Martin's this year? Great league campaign by them to top the group. Always have some excellent club players down through the years. John Maher is as good a hurler as you'd have in any club. The Mahers, Nolans, Shores, Breens are teak tough and can mix it too.

JJs Left Hand

Liam Dowling is in charge

phkk

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

Liam Dowling is in charge

Thanks, good appointment to be fair. Good hurler in his day too. He was over Danesfort last year I think?

JJs Left Hand

last 3 years I think

blackcard

My predictions for the weekend.
James Stephens v Comer. Even though James Stephens have been struggling recently, they should still have too much enough to beat a Comer team that doesn't have great scoring power.
Mullinavat v Bennettsbridge. Mullinavat have the edge in experience. It will be interesting to see who the Bridge deploy to mark John Walsh as this match up could determine the winners. Bridge to scrape home by 2
Clara v Fenians. Only going to be one winner here. Fenians were poor against Bennettsbridge,Clara will be there at the business end of the Championship. Clara by 10.
Rower v Danesfort. Amazed to see the Rower in the regulation play offs after winning their first match. In a fiercely contested match, Richie Hogan to see Danesfort home by 1.
Ballyhale v Martin's. Martin's have been the surprise packet this year but the league table doesn't lie. Still, I think Ballyhale will win by 5.
Dicksboro v O'Loughlins. These clubs are dominating at underage level and could be the biggest rivals in years to come. O'Loughlins to prevail by 3