Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

hurler on de ditch

JimboJones99 wrote: »

I'm not going to scroll back to check but I'm fairly certain it is the non-KK posters who are suggesting that KK played well. For what reason I am not sure

ye never play well when ye don't get a win,so is this the first championship in a couple of years that ye did not play well

IrishAlice

I don't think we played well on Sunday.

Even if we managed to scrape a win I would have said we were poor and most people sitting around me at the match were of the same opinion.

Bar a few players we just seemed lethargic, our first touch, clearances, blocking were not up to the usual standard.

None of this is said to diminish Waterford, they were far better than us on the day and managing to get a draw really was a get out of jail card for Kilkenny.

JimboJones99

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

ye never play well when ye don't get a win,so is this the first championship in a couple of years that ye did not play well

No not at all, we often won games without playing well either

All joking aside, for what it is worth, I think the backs with exception of Joyce hurled reasonably well. Walsh and Buckley were under pressure no doubt but I think they still won and hit a fair amount of ball. But Walsh's man did get MOM all the same.

But you cant honestly think midfield and the forwards with the exception of Hogan played well?

Midfield chipped in with 3 points but they were off the pace which Waterford were setting

Take Hogan out of the forwards, and the rest of the starting team scored 1-2 from play between them.

dubcat51

For the record I wasnt suggesting bolger walsh kelly blanchfield should all start.at least 1 of the 4 should imo.also people say we have nothing on the bench or coming through.these 4 for me will come through next year.

unrealtime

We did play well. Apart from the fact that we scored 1-21 - always a good score, more of our players scored too. And we had the chance to win the match. We came back from 3 points down twice in the first half and from five in the second. The teams were level on 8 or 9 occasions. It's very lazy analysis to suggest we were blown out of it at all. We were alwayswell in the game.

adrian522

In the game yes, but it wasn't a good performance.

Mick Fennelly wasn't in the game for long periods, TJ Reid did very little from play. Jonjo Farell and John Power were anonymous. We were cleaned out on all our long puckouts, the decision making and distribution from the half backs was poor for the most part. Joyce was cleaned out.

We did well to stay in the game (and indeed could have won the game) but I would imagine there is a lot of room for improvement. I wouldn't agree that it was a very good performance.

cul beag

I would still expect a backlash from ye tomorrow. Can't see the likes of the older contingent for ye not going out without a bang! Genuine question for ye, would John Power have shown up consistently in a KK jersey before? I just seem to remember him playing Fitzgibbon for UCC and he didn't really set the world on fire.(Probably bang in 3 goals tomorrow for that now!)

Realt Dearg Sec

cul beag wrote: »

I would still expect a backlash from ye tomorrow. Can't see the likes of the older contingent for ye not going out without a bang! Genuine question for ye, would John Power have shown up consistently in a KK jersey before? I just seem to remember him playing Fitzgibbon for UCC and he didn't really set the world on fire.(Probably bang in 3 goals tomorrow for that now!)

He's not consistent, no, a lot of people would question his workrate, and he has been anonymous to mediocre at least as often as he's been good. Leinster final showed who he's capable of being: solid if not super, not a game changer in the way his older brother was.

hurler on de ditch

unrealtime wrote: »

We did play well. Apart from the fact that we scored 1-21 - always a good score, more of our players scored too. And we had the chance to win the match. We came back from 3 points down twice in the first half and from five in the second. The teams were level on 8 or 9 occasions. It's very lazy analysis to suggest we were blown out of it at all. We were alwayswell in the game.

fair point

hurler on de ditch

1. Stephen O'Keeffe (Ballygunner)
2. Shane Fives (Tourin)
3. Barry Coughlan (Ballygunner)
4. Noel Conners (Passage)
5. Tadgh de Burca (Clashmore Kinsalebeg)
6. Austin Gleeson (Mount Sion)
7. Philip Mahony (Ballygunner)
8. Jamie Barron (Fourmilewater)
17. Conor Gleeson (Fourmilewater)
10. Kevin Moran (De La Salle)
11. Shane Bennett (Ballysaggart)
12. Michael Walsh (Stradbally)
20. Pauric Mahony (Ballygunner)
14. Jake Dillon (De La Salle)
15. Colin Dunford (Colligan)

dastardly00

cul beag wrote: »

Genuine question for ye, would John Power have shown up consistently in a KK jersey before? I just seem to remember him playing Fitzgibbon for UCC and he didn't really set the world on fire.(Probably bang in 3 goals tomorrow for that now!)

He can get a few cruicial scores and goals every now and then.... But I don't think he works hard enough, I'd almost go as far and say that he is lazy. I was very surprised that he wasn't subbed off last Sunday, and I will be amazed if he starts tomorrow. Of course I could be wrong, and he'll start and have a cracker (I'd be delighted to be wrong in that case! ), but no one can argue that he is a very inconsistent player.

PaulKK

dastardly00 wrote: »

He can get a few cruicial scores and goals every now and then.... But I don't think he works hard enough, I'd almost go as far and say that he is lazy. I was very surprised that he wasn't subbed off last Sunday, and I will be amazed if he starts tomorrow. Of course I could be wrong, and he'll start and have a cracker (I'd be delighted to be wrong in that case! ), but no one can argue that he is a very inconsistent player.

I agree, I think he is lazy too.

We are in for one or two surprises tomorrow evening.

Amberblack

Did he not score 1.1 in an all ireland 2 years ago.

Arcade_Tryer

PaulKK wrote: »

I agree, I think he is lazy too.

I don't think that is a valid accusation that can be labelled at any KK player currently playing under Cody. He would not tolerate it.

I do think J Power is limited however in terms of mobility and athleticism. I'd imagine he's an excellent hurler such that he can compensate for that by consistently starting for KK. With so little time on the ball in modern hurling however he is probably finding it especially difficult to get any kind of rhythm going in games.

PaulKK

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

I don't think that is a valid accusation that can be labelled at any KK player currently playing under Cody. He would not tolerate it.

I do think J Power is limited however in terms of mobility and athleticism. I'd imagine he's an excellent hurler such that he can compensate for that by consistently starting for KK. With so little time on the ball in modern hurling however he is probably finding it especially difficult to get any kind of rhythm going in games.

Let me rephrase then. From attending games and seeing him play, in my opinion, he does not work as hard as others at winning his own ball or chasing down his man to win it back.

I noticed him several times at the Leinster final for example standing under a dropping or not chasing the ball down when it breaks.

He's a great hurler, its just frustrating to see that attitude when everyone else is working their socks off.

You've essentially admitted it yourself by saying he lacks mobility and doesn't get on the ball.

Amberblack wrote: »

Did he not score 1.1 in an all ireland 2 years ago.

Was that goal not orchestrated by Richie and handed off to John basically in the goal mouth?

unrealtime

john was a great minor has all the attributes to be a great senior but so far has largely failed to deliver.

JJs Left Hand

Looks like Farrell, Joyce and Power are out and Blanchfield, Bergin and Larkin are in.

No idea how I feel about that. Not inspired anyway but fingers crossed it works

blue note

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

Looks like Farrell, Joyce and Power are out and Blanchfield, Bergin and Larkin are in.

No idea how I feel about that. Not inspired anyway but fingers crossed it works

Don't be ridiculous. Cody doesn't do dummy teams. He doesn't get involved in that nonsense.

amber69

Ladies on rte1 now if anyone is interested in this.

adrian522

blue note wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous. Cody doesn't do dummy teams. He doesn't get involved in that nonsense.

Your constant attempt at wind ups are pretty embarrassing.

dastardly00

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

Looks like Farrell, Joyce and Power are out and Blanchfield, Bergin and Larkin are in.

No idea how I feel about that. Not inspired anyway but fingers crossed it works

Whatever about the changes to the forwards, leaving Joyce out is a big call (if true of course).

unrealtime

Typical one-sided refereeing but we expect it now

unrealtime

Bate them ref and all

Bahanaman

Mick Fennel gone I reckon judging by how he was taken off. Ligaments gone I'd say.

Realt Dearg Sec

Bahanaman wrote: »

Mick Fennel gone I reckon judging by how he was taken off. Ligaments gone I'd say.

Michael Lester says ankle ligaments

brookville

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Michael Lester says ankle ligaments

Almost certainly misses the final if true it's hard to see us winning without him

Topcat32

Kilkenny have to be the best team in the world to support, gave absolutely everything to win that match today. Blanchfield was excellent, another Rabbit out of the hat from Cody!!

Good loser

What did ye think of the ref playing almost 6 mins extra time when 3 mins were notified? Unless the wrong time was shown on TV screen.

The last two Waterford frees were dodgy in the extreme.

Faugheen

Good loser wrote: »

What did ye think of the ref playing almost 6 mins extra time when 3 mins were notified? Unless the wrong time was shown on TV screen.

The last two Waterford frees were dodgy in the extreme.

There was a one minute stoppage for Blanchfield to get treated for the 21 and Kilkenny made a sub in injury time too.

And for the 500,000th time, the time given on the board is minimum, not maximum.

citykat

Good loser wrote: »

What did ye think of the ref playing almost 6 mins extra time when 3 mins were notified? Unless the wrong time was shown on TV screen.

The last two Waterford frees were dodgy in the extreme.

It doesn't matter. Just pop the ball to Richie and the job is oxo.