Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

minty81

Best point made here was the loss of Martin Fogarty as coach. We look such a poorly coached team at the moment.

And for all those who say we've suffered a massive dip in talent.. obviously the likes of henry, jj, tommy etc are once in a generation group but how does it explain Kierans/kk cbs dominance over the last 6/7 years. Something going wrong at minor and more specifically u-21 level that this dominance is not being reflected at county level

digzy

jelutong wrote: »

No hurler goes on the pitch with the intention of playing badly. Shame on anyone who abuses players on the street or on forums such as this. When I see Richie Hogan,one the finest hurlers I've ever seen being slagged off by one or two people here it makes me wonder. Eaten bread is soon forgotten and all that.

Can't believe that there's Kk people here calling for the public to abuse yer players after that game.

The Kk players are heroes but it looks like their stranglehold has loosened. This will be Galways year.

Bahanaman

DickoHara wrote:

Great win yesterday.

Thanks Dicko! It would be great to get a go at Kilkenny. I know a lot of things would have to go right for us for it to happen but you never know. There'd have to be a checkpoint set up on the bridge in Graiguenamanagh! 😅

sjb25

digzy wrote: »

Can't believe that there's Kk people here calling for the public to abuse yer players after that game.

The Kk players are heroes but it looks like their stranglehold has loosened. This will be wexfords year.

Fixed that for you

digzy

sjb25 wrote: »

Fixed that for you

Wanna bet?:pac:

Cornerback1

I wouldn't even be thinking of the 2nd qualifier at this stage - the draw will be crucial and who we play will be important. I think our forwards only scored 1pt from play last night. During the league, we were under serious pressure to get points and keep the scoreboard ticking over. The goals kept us in it. So it's not as if it's something new.

Realt Dearg Sec

digzy wrote: »

Can't believe that there's Kk people here calling for the public to abuse yer players after that game.

One person does not = "people".

Anyway he's free to say what he wants. And I'm sure everyone will agree the players will be free to respond however they deem appropriate.

DickoHara

Cornerback1 wrote: »

I wouldn't even be thinking of the 2nd qualifier at this stage - the draw will be crucial and who we play will be important. I think our forwards only scored 1pt from play last night. During the league, we were under serious pressure to get points and keep the scoreboard ticking over. The goals kept us in it. So it's not as if it's something new.

TJ Reid scored 2-7 from frees, Lester Ryan-2 , W Walsh-1, P Deegan-1, C Fennelly, 1-.

Cornerback1

DickoHara wrote: »

Cornerback1 wrote: »

I wouldn't even be thinking of the 2nd qualifier at this stage - the draw will be crucial and who we play will be important. I think our forwards only scored 1pt from play last night. During the league, we were under serious pressure to get points and keep the scoreboard ticking over. The goals kept us in it. So it's not as if it's something new.

TJ Reid scored 2-7 from frees, Lester Ryan-2 , W Walsh-1, P Deegan-1, C Fennelly, 1-.

So 1pt from play from the forwards - very very poor return.

adrian522

Which of Wally and Colin isn't a forward?

Topcat32

adrian522 wrote: »

Which of Wally and Colin isn't a forward?

Wally got a point, Colin got a goal.

In any event its not all the forwards fault, the ball going into them is dreadfull, Getting Padraig Walsh, Cillian Buckley and Jason Cleere into the half back line and Michael Fennelly into midfield would be a big help with that

Topcat32

Does anybody know what the story is with injuries on the panel, I assume Michael Fennelly, Pat Lyng and Richie Leahy were not fit to take their place on the panel, whats the story with Shane Pendergast and James Maher?

pissedasanewt

Brian017 wrote: »

The first round is Munster vs Leinster with one of the winners of the Laois/Carlow game going into one of the pots with Westmeath going into the other. So basically, we'll be facing a munster team or either Laois/Carlow/Westmeath (depending on which gets placed into the Munster pot).

The 2nd round is an open draw providing it avoid repeat pairings. I think thats how it works anyway, I'm open to correction

By pot you mean a GAA pot in that you are never going to get Tipp V KK in the first round of the qualifiers.. they will want to shuffle all the big guns into the QF's and go from there.

No harm in us having a stint in the qualifiers. Although there are definitely a few players that don't want more game time. A few high intensity wins and hopefully this team can find a bit of composure when it counts.

Cornerback1

adrian522 wrote: »

Which of Wally and Colin isn't a forward?

Points from play.

Realt Dearg Sec

pissedasanewt wrote: »

By pot you mean a GAA pot in that you are never going to get Tipp V KK in the first round of the qualifiers..

Except that the only other time Tipp and KK were in the qualifiers they played against each other. But never mind that, facts shmacts.

Cornerback1

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

pissedasanewt wrote: »

By pot you mean a GAA pot in that you are never going to get Tipp V KK in the first round of the qualifiers..

Except that the only other time Tipp and KK were in the qualifiers they played against each other. But never mind that, facts shmacts.

KK v Waterford a few years ago also.

DickoHara

Topcat32 wrote: »

Does anybody know what the story is with injuries on the panel, I assume Michael Fennelly, Pat Lyng and Richie Leahy were not fit to take their place on the panel, whats the story with Shane Pendergast and James Maher?

What about John power where is he gone, saw James Maher the day against Gowran he was very poor.

Topcat32

Cornerback1 wrote: »

KK v Waterford a few years ago also.

That was after Kilkenny knocked out Tipp.

sjb25

digzy wrote: »

Wanna bet?:pac:

We will have to wait and see

dobbs2210

Saw James Maher a few times myself this year and he was terrible poor.

Billy Ryan was man of the match in u21 game v Dublin and Cody didn't give him the call up, why??

Kilkenny u21s played Waterford u21 tonight in a game and Billy Ryan came on after 20 minutes and ended up scoring 7 points from play. He is in flying form. Surely, surely he would offer more than an unfit and overweight Liam Blanchfield, surely?

citykat

sjb25 wrote: »

We will have to wait and see

Who let Jack out of his box?

Nedflanders02

dobbs2210 wrote: »

Saw James Maher a few times myself this year and he was terrible poor.

Billy Ryan was man of the match in u21 game v Dublin and Cody didn't give him the call up, why??

Kilkenny u21s played Waterford u21 tonight in a game and Billy Ryan came on after 20 minutes and ended up scoring 7 points from play. He is in flying form. Surely, surely he would offer more than an unfit and overweight Liam Blanchfield, surely?

Any details on who won the match? Or what the team was?

PaulKK

I'd agree with the loss of Martin Fogarty. The team just doesn't seem to have the same spirit/drive since he left.

I think the most concerning thing for me all year is that we have a major problem in the forwards. All year none are able to win any ball or convert chances easily.

Gone are the days of lads catching balls on the halfway line and blasting them over with ease.

Just watching the Sunday game here again and we went in to the second half with 6 scores and I'd say only 2 of those were from play. Not good enough at this level unfortunately.

Cody seems to have lost the plot too. Playing injured players. Starting backs in the forwards. Brought all the sub's and non named panel members out training today and ran the sh1te out of them. Crazy stuff.

Topcat32

PaulKK wrote: »

Gone are the days of lads catching balls on the halfway line and blasting them over with ease.

Nobody seems to have told Conor Lehane that, with the proper movement and the correct players taking the shots those days are still here and may actually be the best way to beat the extra defender.

PaulKK

Topcat32 wrote: »

Nobody seems to have told Conor Lehane that, with the proper movement and the correct players taking the shots those days are still here and may actually be the best way to beat the extra defender.

Well I was talking about our own lads but agreed.

phkk

Just looking at Wexford's goal there again on the Sunday Game. Two awful one-handed efforts to clear the lines-you wouldn't see it in an U-10 game. Mother of God, put two hands on the hurl and pull hard.

usualstripes

I agree re the points on the half back line.
The championship is wide open and if we regain some composure who knows.

Murphy
Murphy
Joyce
Fogarty
Padraig
Cleere
Buckley
M Fennelly
R Hogan
Walter
TJ
Leahy
Aylward
C Fennelly
Bolger

Billy ryan - has to get a chance
Lester
Delaney
Maher
Blanchfield
O shea
Deegan
John joe

Badabing

Where does P Walsh play for tullaroan? So far off the pace yesterday

usualstripes

Badabing wrote: »

Where does P Walsh play for tullaroan? So far off the pace yesterday

Padraig wasn't fit yesterday. All in all most of the lads just didn't know or have a plan. There was no composure. We still have a chance to get it right. Keep the lines right starting with buckley and padraig our two wing backs

jeff bingham

Badabing wrote:

Where does P Walsh play for tullaroan? So far off the pace yesterday

Centre forward all last year anyway and usually top class. Havnt seen them play this year yet