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    #302
    Andy454
    Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭Andy454


    MarkAnthony wrote: »

    VM's network (bar netflix :pac:) is a brilliant network, copper-co ax is way better than what Eir have. It's not even much worse than having fibre directly into the home. However it doesn't alter the fact that you're still paying a 'line rental' even on VM. That line, doesn't carry a phone signal by design like the Eir network, but that's no reason to dismiss the Eir network if it meets your bandwidth needs.

    My point is this is the basis for some people decisions because they somehow feel conned by having a phone line. UPC had very much undersold their products as evidenced by a huge increase in monthly cost to generate reasonable profits in Ireland.

    I was a NTL/UPC/VM customer for over 15 years between here and Scotland, I'll survive on 92Mbits, I'd love 240/360 but it gets to a point where other factors become more important than speed into the box.

    I caught sight of a VM business crew installing network near Fitzwilliam street - they're still installing coax - I would have thought they'd be moving toward fibre to the building in areas with over ground network

    There needs to be a push from the communications regulator to get operators to get on with rolling out fibre to the building - other than emergency maintenance / repairs, no operator/developer should be still installing coax/copper pair into buildings in this day and age!


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    #303
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,517 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    MarkAnthony wrote: »
    It won;t be your paper weight either unless you pay the non-return fee.

    And the equipment return information once you cancel

    Returning Sky Q equipment - http://help.sky.com/articles/returning-sky-q-equipment?intent=more-sky-q-help&product=trial-tv&country=ie

    Charges for not returning Sky Q equipment - http://help.sky.com/articles/charges-for-not-returning-sky-q-equipment?intent=more-sky-q-help&product=trial-tv&country=ie
    The following information shows the current charges that apply if you don’t return the relevant equipment:

    Non-Return charges (UK/ROI):

    •Sky Q box - £100/€130

    •Sky Q Silver box - £140/€182

    •Sky Q Mini box - £50/€65

    •Sky Q Hub - £30/€39


    For example, if you fail to return a Sky Q Silver box, two Sky Q Mini boxes and a Sky Q Hub, you'll be charged £270/€351.


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    #304
    The Ayatolla
    Registered Users Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    The Cush wrote: »
    And the equipment return information once you cancel

    Returning Sky Q equipment - http://help.sky.com/articles/returning-sky-q-equipment?intent=more-sky-q-help&product=trial-tv&country=ie

    Charges for not returning Sky Q equipment - http://help.sky.com/articles/charges-for-not-returning-sky-q-equipment?intent=more-sky-q-help&product=trial-tv&country=ie

    All the more reason to stay on the regular Sky package.


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    #305
    Max Q
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭Max Q


    Confused on the pricing and what you get for €55/67 per month..

    What channels do you get for the monthly cost? The website is very unclear. Do you still have to add a basic tv bundle (original/variety) to this monthly cost?

    What happens to the current €15pm HD charge and Sky Go Extra (€6pm), are these charges all dropped as these services are included in Q?


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    #306
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,782 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Max Q wrote: »
    Confused on the pricing and what you get for €55/67 per month..

    What channels do you get for the monthly cost? The website is very unclear. Do you still have to add a basic tv bundle (original/variety) to this monthly cost?

    What happens to the current €15pm HD charge and Sky Go Extra (€6pm), are these charges all dropped as these services are included in Q?

    The €55/67 includes variety and HD packages. The sky go charges depends on which package you're taking the 55/67.


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    #307
    AMGer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭AMGer


    Sky Q setup on display at the Sky stand in Mahon Point for anyone in the area


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    #308
    Avada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Avada


    AMGer wrote: »
    Sky Q setup on display at the Sky stand in Mahon Point for anyone in the area

    Should be in most Sky outlets since yesterday. Billboards started then too.


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    #309
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Max Q wrote: »
    Confused on the pricing and what you get for €55/67 per month..

    What channels do you get for the monthly cost? The website is very unclear. Do you still have to add a basic tv bundle (original/variety) to this monthly cost?

    What happens to the current €15pm HD charge and Sky Go Extra (€6pm), are these charges all dropped as these services are included in Q?

    SkyQ is basically SkyQ Silver with the option for only one mini box (extra room) and no UHD functionality.

    Sky Go Extra is included in SkyQ as is the new SkyQ app which allows two devices on your LAN to access the full TV pack. It's limited to tablets at the moment.
    Loughc wrote: »
    The €55/67 includes variety and HD packages. The sky go charges depends on which package you're taking the 55/67.

    It's included in both packages price.
    Avada wrote: »
    Should be in most Sky outlets since yesterday. Billboards started then too.

    Only 'main' outlets are getting it. Worth ringing to make sure before you head out.


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    #310
    galtee boy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    So just to be certain, €67 gets you Sky Q Silver plus one mini Q for multiroom, it includes all channels except Sports and Movies and it includes HD, is that correct ?


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    #311
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,653 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    galtee boy wrote: »
    So just to be certain, €67 gets you Sky Q Silver plus one mini Q for multiroom, it includes all channels except Sports and Movies and it includes HD, is that correct ?

    yes


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    #312
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    helimachoptor wrote: »
    yes

    What does the 55 package give you? Atm I have multi room 2 boxes in total, movies and hd for 69 per month. Will the 55 pack plus movies (28) give me what I have now? The sky Q site is terrible.


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    #313
    ForstalDave
    Registered Users Posts: 612 ✭✭✭ForstalDave


    jca wrote: »
    What does the 55 package give you? Atm I have multi room 2 boxes in total, movies and hd for 69 per month. Will the 55 pack plus movies (28) give me what I have now? The sky Q site is terrible.

    You need the €67 pack the main difference in the two is €55 is NON multi-room(and cant be upgraded without paying for a new box) and €67 is multi-room


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    #314
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    ForstalDave wrote: »
    You need the €67 pack the main difference in the two is €55 is NON multi-room(and cant be upgraded without paying for a new box) and €67 is multi-room

    Jesus that's scaldy. To have my present pack will cost me €95 pm plus setup costs and because I'm just starting an 18 month BB contract with VF it'll cost me a fortune. Thanks but no thanks sky. I'll stick with what I have.


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    SmallBalls
    Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭SmallBalls


    Any word when there might be some 4k content available?


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    #316
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    SmallBalls wrote: »
    Any word when there might be some 4k content available?

    My bet would be late August for the new premier league season but it might be later than that


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    #317
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    ForstalDave wrote: »
    You need the €67 pack the main difference in the two is €55 is NON multi-room(and cant be upgraded without paying for a new box) and €67 is multi-room

    My mistake above not being clear but the SkyQ box can support another room, but you have to buy the SkyQ silver bundle at €67 per month.

    If you're going for an extra room go for silver from the get go.


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    #318
    notahappycamper
    Registered Users Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    What happens if you want multiroom in a house and are not a Sky BB customer as well? If your wifi is poor between say the Sky Q Silver box and the mini, can you expect buffering on the Sky Mini box?


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    #319
    SmallBalls
    Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭SmallBalls


    peteeeed wrote: »
    My bet would be late August for the new premier league season but it might be later than that

    Yeah, probably right there. Don't think I'll bother until the 4k stuff goes live.


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    #320
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    notahappycamper wrote: »
    What happens if you want multiroom in a house and are not a Sky BB customer as well? If your wifi is poor between say the Sky Q Silver box and the mini, can you expect buffering on the Sky Mini box?

    No one really knows as this is specifically why they've waited on 3rd party BB. Tbh I can't see the rolling it out unless it's a good experience. If it looks technically unfeasible on certain sites they'll probably not install.

    The vast majority will be fine with a booster or two I expect.


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    #321
    notahappycamper
    Registered Users Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    MarkAnthony wrote: »
    No one really knows as this is specifically why they've waited on 3rd party BB. Tbh I can't see the rolling it out unless it's a good experience. If it looks technically unfeasible on certain sites they'll probably not install.

    The vast majority will be fine with a booster or two I expect.

    It'll be interesting to see how the streaming happens in reality between the Sky Q/Silver box and the minis especially now since it will be streaming 1080p to the minis. I wonder will there be much of a delay between "live" tv and what is watched on the minis? Really wished you could have a 2nd Sky Silver Box so you could have the option of viewing UHD in more than 1 room if you wanted? Missed opportunity and not future proofing IMHO.


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    #322
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    notahappycamper wrote: »
    It'll be interesting to see how the streaming happens in reality between the Sky Q/Silver box and the minis especially now since it will be streaming 1080p to the minis. I wonder will there be much of a delay between "live" tv and what is watched on the minis? Really wished you could have a 2nd Sky Silver Box so you could have the option of viewing UHD in more than 1 room if you wanted? Missed opportunity and not future proofing IMHO.

    Sky has already released to Techradar that the chips in the silvers can be upgraded to allow HDMI 2.0 via firmware. I suspect the same is not true of the mini's as the limitation is going to be the wifi LAN in the home for the foreseeable future, you just cant be moving that much data about over wifi.

    I'm absolutely sure a UHD mini box will make an appearance as will 50 or 60FPS sports content on the main box. The issue with UHD is multifold for Sky. They don't want a repeat of the 3D flop for starters so won't be releasing UHD content for a while. About the only application for it is huge TVs and sports so it's going to be a very small number of households that miss out on anything but the gimmick factor.

    Rather than a missed opportunity I think it's rather well thought out IMHO.


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    #323
    galtee boy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    ForstalDave wrote: »
    You need the €67 pack the main difference in the two is €55 is NON multi-room(and cant be upgraded without paying for a new box) and €67 is multi-room

    One last question, to avail of either the €55 or €67 options, must you also take Sky BB or otherwise add movies or sports ? and are the boxes dearer if you don't have Sky BB ?


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    #324
    Slippin Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    Sky q is only for sky bb customers at the moment. It will open up to other bb providers in the future.


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    #325
    galtee boy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    Slippin Jimmy wrote: »
    Sky q is only for sky bb customers at the moment. It will open up to other bb providers in the future.

    But presumably if you agree to switch to Sky BB, they will allow you to take Sky Q also ?


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    #326
    MarkAnthony
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    galtee boy wrote: »
    But presumably if you agree to switch to Sky BB, they will allow you to take Sky Q also ?

    Yep. At the moment you can only switch with broadband.

    Assuming no BB or Sports or Movies (any one of the three will do) you don't get a discount on the 'Smart Features Fee' so SkyQ silver is €299 (new) €349 (existing) set up.


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    #327
    bodonnell
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭bodonnell


    Has anyone had this installed yet & if so what are your first impressions ?


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    #328
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,653 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    bodonnell wrote: »
    Has anyone had this installed yet & if so what are your first impressions ?

    first installs are happening from the 29th Feb


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    #329
    cannco253
    Registered Users Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Saw the silver box set up in the Galway shopping centre on Saturday. Had a play with the new remote , very sensitive and will take a bit of time to get used to. The sales rep said the sky engineers set up the demo , the strange thing was it was on 1080i and not 1080p. The sales guy didn't know anything about 1080p at all. Also didn't know if you could stream YouTube 4K from the new native app and I couldn't test it as the wifi was poor. looks great but might not be the big improvement people are expecting at least until the 4K content gets broadcast.


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    #330
    former total
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭former total


    cannco253 wrote: »
    Saw the silver box set up in the Galway shopping centre on Saturday. Had a play with the new remote , very sensitive and will take a bit of time to get used to. The sales rep said the sky engineers set up the demo , the strange thing was it was on 1080i and not 1080p. The sales guy didn't know anything about 1080p at all. Also didn't know if you could stream YouTube 4K from the new native app and I couldn't test it as the wifi was poor. looks great but might not be the big improvement people are expecting at least until the 4K content gets broadcast.

    There are no TV broadcasts (by anyone) in 1080p, only 1080i. I wouldn't expect this to change with Sky Q.


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    #331
    lgs 4
    Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭lgs 4


    Another Sky Gimmick the SkyQ , For me Freesat and Saorview all free


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