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Star Fox Zero

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I can't wait, been a while since we've seen anything new in the franchise, and the concept of on rails shooter has kind of been left behind, especially this kind of game.
    It'll be interesting to see how it plays on the WiiU, seeing as it's amongst the last AAA releases on the format you'd hope that extra care will be taken to ensure its perfect.
    Probably need to buy a Fox McCloud Amiibo now, before they're all gone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    As if this game isn't already a big enough disaster, rumours are that it's now been delayed until July.

    http://www.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1170656


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    sligeach wrote: »
    As if this game isn't already a big enough disaster, rumours are that it's now been delayed until July.

    http://www.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1170656

    Disappointing IF it gets pushed back again but it's hardly been a disaster in any shape or form, the last footage released looked very good and worst comes to worst it being delayed, it's just going to be improved and with Platinum on board it'll be certainly well polished.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Yeah, this is probably going to be unsurprising but still a lot of fun.
    Pity it's delayed though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭EJ22


    Is it confirmed to be delayed? If so I'll be a little disappointed as it's one of the three must buy games I had over the next few months, but rather they do it right than fudge it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Platinum Games know how to make action games. I'm more happy about this announcement than not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    Is it just me or are the graphics still pretty bad on this footage? Everyone is saying it looks better but to me it still looks mediocre at best.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I think the Star Fox games never looked the prettiest, barring Starfox Adventures, which looked amazing.
    Contrarily, Star Fox games have always been great to play, and Starfox Adventures felt derivative and boring at times.
    It'll be down to the control scheme; if that's spot on, or at least gives us the option of using motion controls or not, Starfox Zero will be a blast.
    A bit like Legend of Zelda, you expect the base elements of the game to stay the same, weapons, levels types, Slippy getting in sh1te, Falco being a pain, all elements of a successful Starfox experience.
    And with Platinum on board, this can only be excellent news, in terms of the product we were getting and this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    So the better it looks the worse it is and vise versa. So let's hope this looks terrible so!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,555 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I don't think I've played a Starfox since the N64, and since that and the SNES games were pretty short, how long do you think this one will be? Being too long could risk it getting repetitive, which explains the different vehicles.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Well, hard to make folk happy then, do we want a longer game where the on rails gameplay gets tiring, do we want to see the gameplay broken up into vehicle specific chapters? And combine that with all range mode sequences as well.
    I think it's more likely to be the latter, and offer up blockbuster moments along the way.
    That's how the N64 game worked and I don't imagine this one is going to be any different at all, and that's a good thing.
    Some new vehicles, the new aiming mode, new planets to blow stuff up on, and be blown up on.
    All good.
    But, I'm not sure it'll be €70 good....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Well, hard to make folk happy then, do we want a longer game where the on rails gameplay gets tiring, do we want to see the gameplay broken up into vehicle specific chapters? And combine that with all range mode sequences as well.
    I think it's more likely to be the latter, and offer up blockbuster moments along the way.
    That's how the N64 game worked and I don't imagine this one is going to be any different at all, and that's a good thing.
    Some new vehicles, the new aiming mode, new planets to blow stuff up on, and be blown up on.
    All good.
    But, I'm not sure it'll be €70 good....


    Sure when was the last time a standard nintendo game was 70 quid? I'll pay 50 at the most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭EJ22


    For anyone looking to pre-order it, you can get it for £26.86 from The Game Collection using the discount code GRATEFUL10

    http://www.thegamecollection.net/star-fox-zero-wii-u.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Star Fox games are very short. The replayability of the levels for the highest score or alternate route is what's supposed to give it some legs. That will not entice me. It needs online multiplayer(which I'm certain it'll now have) along with leaderboards. I remain very skeptical about this game, I think it's had a very bad development path. The delays will help but it may be like trying to pimp a Fiat Multipla, it's still a Multipla at its core. We came so close to getting this at Christmas instead of Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash. Miyamoto's involvement and it being his creation is probably what saved it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    EJ22 wrote: »
    For anyone looking to pre-order it, you can get it for £26.86 from The Game Collection using the discount code GRATEFUL10

    http://www.thegamecollection.net/star-fox-zero-wii-u.html

    I tried that code last night and this morning but it didn't work. Must be expired. I would have pre ordered it at that price despite my reservations. You can be sure there'll be an amiibo bundle. I think the game is some way off release as it hasn't been announced yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    Is that legit?
    Seems a bit too cheap...

    I'll be getting this game on release so if this is real, then I'll pull the trigger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    The_B_Man wrote: »
    Is that legit?
    Seems a bit too cheap...

    I'll be getting this game on release so if this is real, then I'll pull the trigger.

    The website is legit, they're very good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    Nice one.
    I just hope if I order it now, they won't come out with a premium pack of some sorts with a fancy included Amiibo and a digital eShop download of the N64 version! :o


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    The_B_Man wrote: »
    Nice one.
    I just hope if I order it now, they won't come out with a premium pack of some sorts with a fancy included Amiibo and a digital eShop download of the N64 version! :o

    Now you've mentioned it they are almost certain to pack it with a book, posters, Amiibo, soundtrack, download codes..... except the one you've preordered!

    Edit: Dammit, just ordered it, came to about €35, so happy with that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Now you've mentioned it they are almost certain to pack it with a book, posters, Amiibo, soundtrack, download codes..... except the one you've preordered!

    Edit: Dammit, just ordered it, came to about €35, so happy with that.

    How did you do that? The code was expired.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    sligeach wrote: »
    How did you do that? The code was expired.

    Not expired, worked just fine for me.
    And now I just have to wait two months before some flying and blasting loveliness arrives!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    This was reconfirmed for April in the US, hope it doesn't delayed here for some silly reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    ****s sake. I know its that thing about delays being good in the long run, but it kills all the hype/positive feelings towards a game with constant delays and hearing negative things about the development.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭EJ22


    Really hope this doesn't end up being true as i've been looking forward to this game for too long. If it gets delayed I may just cancel my pre-order and get pokken tournament instead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Rumour: Star Fox Zero Facing Development Niggles, Another Delay Could Happen
    get?url=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F1418.gif&key=y1YJ9Bm4AMHiF9tR_HYekg&w=600&h=180

    Surprised this is only coming to light now. I heard these rumours about a month ago. This game has been a disaster since day one and I partly blame Miyamoto. He's on some personal mission to shoehorn the gamepad into a game in a meaningful way before the Wii U dies. He was heavily involved in designing the gamepad but hasn't shown it being used in a meaningful way. It's why he's been tinkering around in the background with those Project games. Perhaps he sees it as some personal failure if the Wii U comes and goes with no proper use. Miyamoto said back in June that the controls were complex and took a couple of days to get used to. That right there is a problem and a major one.

    http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/06/shigeru_miyamoto_defends_star_fox_zeros_controls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    sligeach wrote: »

    You heard? You mean you read it on some internet forum somewhere. It also hasn't just come to light, there was a report last week about particular parts of the game have taken longer to implement.

    Another delay would be disappointing though, although hard to lay blame on anyone when we know miniscule details about it and with different elements being rumoured to have caused the delay, not just the controls.

    Edit: Re-reading the article it is basically just putting quotation marks on reports from the last while. Nintendolife have gone to crap the last year or so with their filler articles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Corholio wrote: »
    You heard? You mean you read it on some internet forum somewhere. It also hasn't just come to light, there was a report last week about particular parts of the game have taken longer to implement.

    Another delay would be disappointing though, although hard to lay blame on anyone when we know miniscule details about it and with different elements being rumoured to have caused the delay, not just the controls.

    Edit: Re-reading the article it is basically just putting quotation marks on reports from the last while. Nintendolife have gone to crap the last year or so with their filler articles.
    get?url=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F1418.gif&key=y1YJ9Bm4AMHiF9tR_HYekg&w=600&h=180

    Talk about pedantic.

    I disagree, I find Nintendolife to be a very good site, where you're not as shackled about expressing an opinion and there's good discussions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    sligeach wrote: »
    get?url=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F1418.gif&key=y1YJ9Bm4AMHiF9tR_HYekg&w=600&h=180

    Talk about pedantic.

    I disagree, I find Nintendolife to be a very good site, where you're not as shackled about expressing an opinion and there's good discussions.

    It wasn't pedantic, it wasn't about the term you used. It was about that 'knowing' it a month ago was some form of semi-boast.

    I don't use any forums they have so can't comment on that but I can't recall any Nintendo site that there's not good discussions on or some short of shackling. Their articles have gone very poor. Sometimes whole articles that end like ....now this probably is a unsubstantiated rumour....', knowing full well that's exactly what it is and even stretching it out to another one with the same topic. But saying that, a lot of video game sites have turned into that.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I find Nintendolife intermittently good, but a lot of news is just repackaged click bait, at least in my experience.
    I'm not sure what you're saying with being less shackled on the forum there, of that is a reference to this forum.
    I would hope not.
    But the site does have decent reviews at least, though it's never my goto site for news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Corholio wrote: »
    It wasn't pedantic, it wasn't about the term you used. It was about that 'knowing' it a month ago was some form of semi-boast.

    I don't use any forums they have so can't comment on that but I can't recall any Nintendo site that there's not good discussions on or some short of shackling. Their articles have gone very poor. Sometimes whole articles that end like ....now this probably is a unsubstantiated rumour....', knowing full well that's exactly what it is and even stretching it out to another one with the same topic. But saying that, a lot of video game sites have turned into that.
    Corholio wrote: »
    You heard? You mean you read it on some internet forum somewhere. It also hasn't just come to light, there was a report last week about particular parts of the game have taken longer to implement.


    What I highlighted is what I took from what you said wrote, if we're talking writing in the literal sense. It wasn't a semi-boast and it wasn't from a forum. Another Nintendo site reported it much earlier because even yesterday a site wrote that they too had heard the rumour long before then but had held off on reporting it.
    Some rumors regarding Star Fox Zero’s development have been floating around the internet lately, but since there was no credible source attached, we haven’t reported on them.

    http://nintendoeverything.com/rumor-star-fox-zero-facing-development-issues-over-the-games-motion-controls/


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Lads, I'm not the moderator of this forum, and I'm trying not to step on any toes here, but you are both risking infractions by persisting in this personal type of stuff, agree to disagree on it or it's just going to end badly for everyone concerned.
    And I'll leave it up to Retr0 and Starlord to do the rest, apologies to you both if I've overstepped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    CiDeRmAn is right, it's petty bickering and is right on the line, so stop it now please.
    There have been several warnings issued in the past on this kind of thing, and there will be no further warnings, just infractions/bans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    what is a good site for nintendo related news? I thought Nintendolife was a good one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,591 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Also, I reckon this is only being delayed to give them time to repackage and redesign the box.
    they've decided to release it as an amiibo bundle and lock content in the game needing the amiibo
    and I for one am delighted with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    NintendoLife is a good site, though others disagree. And amiibo support was included a long time ago, it's been mentioned several times. We have Star Fox and Falco already. Expect a Slippy and Peppy amiibo, probably an Arwing amiibo, possibly Wolf and General Pepper and maybe a new Star Fox model(Mario has 7 different models). Nintendo rarely lets a game come out now without tainting it in some way with amiibo.

    http://kotaku.com/shigeru-miyamoto-has-good-news-for-amiibo-skeptics-like-1714239554


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    They were talking about trying to make a transforming Arwing amiibo, but they weren't sure how feasible it would be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    A toy aircraft? that transforms into something else? IMPOSSIBLE! It will never happen!
    <Quick Megatron, we've been rumbled! CHEESE IT!>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Yeah but if you're got to also give it an amiibo base connector, its probably harder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Yeah, or it'd have to be incredibly simple.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Just had the money for StarFox Zero deducted from my account.... should I be pleased or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭EJ22


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Just had the money for StarFox Zero deducted from my account.... should I be pleased or not?

    How did you pay for it as I've not had any money taken out yet for my preorder of it or zelda, which releases much sooner than StarFox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Just had the money for StarFox Zero deducted from my account.... should I be pleased or not?

    Probably not pleased. Although the delay hasn't been confirmed by the big N yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Just had the money for StarFox Zero deducted from my account.... should I be pleased or not?

    Who took your money? That's extremely early for that to happen.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    The Game Collection did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭EJ22


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    The Game Collection did.

    If you paid by paypal then thats probably why they took it so early


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I was in Gamestop at lunchtime and they had new stickers on their Star Fox boxes that weren't there before, saying "Out 31/7". Do they know something that we don't? :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,679 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Mr E wrote: »
    I was in Gamestop at lunchtime and they had new stickers on their Star Fox boxes that weren't there before, saying "Out 31/7". Do they know something that we don't? :)

    31/7?
    31st of July?
    Not smiley face content that!
    More of a frowney face tbh!
    One of these :mad:
    I want the game now, gods damn it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,139 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    I was in Smyths a few weeks ago and I thought they still had due out for Christmas stickers on the boxarts or was it coming soon stickers? Well the same ones that have been on them for months now, an orange and white colour I think.


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