Enda kenny

nagel

is it safe for the country to let him out, after his outburst in Madrid.Seemingly the topic of the army protecting the banks came up before and Simon Coveney
denied this, get him back into the box

BoJack Horseman

Here's a link outlining what the Central Bank Governor had mentioned.

http://www.thejournal.ie/enda-kenny-puzzled-army-on-streets-2403495-Oct2015/

FWIW, many countries have had to deploy security forces at bank branches since the financial crisis began.

BOHtox

nagel wrote: »

is it safe for the country to let him out, after his outburst in Madrid.Seemingly the topic of the army protecting the banks came up before and Simon Coveney
denied this, get him back into the box

At the time you try create stability, not panic.

Another whisper I've heard was we were printing the punt, or were ready to do so at the press of a button, should the Euro collapse.

A lot of people don't know how far this country has come

For Reals

BOHtox wrote: »

At the time you try create stability, not panic.

Another whisper I've heard was we were printing the punt, or were ready to do so at the press of a button, should the Euro collapse.

A lot of people don't know how far this country has come

It's gone halfway around on the same old rotation. What FF/FG did to the public is disgusting. Nothing has improved. We are setting the same old skittles back up.

washman3

nagel wrote: »

is it safe for the country to let him out, after his outburst in Madrid.Seemingly the topic of the army protecting the banks came up before and Simon Coveney
denied this, get him back into the box

The army should have been protecting the banks from the inside when his cronies and the Fianna Fail cronies were robbing the country blind, not outside protecting the ATMs for the ordinary Joe Soap...:mad:

This guy is a national embarrassment.!!

BoJack Horseman

For Reals wrote: »

It's gone halfway around on the same old rotation. What FF/FG did to the public is disgusting. Nothing has improved. We are setting the same old skittles back up.

Worry not.

Just 6 months to go and this evil government will be no more.

utopia awaits.

Bulbous Salutation

It seems like an honest assessment of the dire financial circumstances the State found itself in at the time. The Sovereign was for all intents and purposes teetering on the edge of default.

It's anathema to many of the perennial moaners and cranks around here, but this Government did a fine job of implementing successive austerity budgets. Austerity being the grotesque idea of living within your means.

efb

I hope this government is returned

Bulbous Salutation

efb wrote: »

I hope this government is returned

Absolutely. It's been a fine Government, both from an economic and social point of view. It's one that history will look very kindly upon. FG and Labour have always made good bedfellows when it comes to running this place.

nice_guy80

Nothing to see here, move along now

washman3

Bulbous Salutation wrote: »

It seems like an honest assessment of the dire financial circumstances the State found itself in at the time. The Sovereign was for all intents and purposes teetering on the edge of default.

It's anathema to many of the perennial moaners and cranks around here, but this Government did a fine job of implementing successive austerity budgets. Austerity being the grotesque idea of living within your means.

And also means that those who caused the financial disaster walk away scot-free, even rewarded with handshakes and pensions that film stars would be proud of.:mad:

washman3

efb wrote: »

I hope this government is returned

So does Denis O'Brien...

Oops69

Bulbous Salutation wrote: »

Absolutely. It's been a fine Government, both from an economic and social point of view. It's one that history will look very kindly upon. FG and Labour have always made good bedfellows when it comes to running this place.

This is tongue in cheek I presume , and by ' running ' you mean ruining of course.
Kenny is an utterly spineless national emabarrasment , the electorate will put him out of his misery soon enough .

BoJack Horseman

Oops69 wrote: »

the electorate will put him out of his misery soon enough .

Roll on the new FF/SF government.

Not long to go

Hollister11

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Worry not.

Just 6 months to go and this evil government will be no more.

utopia awaits.

I hope you know Fine Gael will be back on goverment. Labour maybe not, but FG defiantly.

All throughout this governments term I have been a SF supporter, but over gr last few months I have moved to Fine Gael.

With the exception of Irish Water, they have been a fine goverment.

BoJack Horseman

Hollister11 wrote: »

I hope you know Fine Gael will be back on goverment.

The alternative government, month in- month out poll 5% to 8% higher than the incumbents.

The numbers are becoming irresistible.

The party that bankrupted the state, back in because the voters tired of the idea of the state paying for itself.

BOHtox

washman3 wrote: »

And also means that those who caused the financial disaster walk away scot-free, even rewarded with handshakes and pensions that film stars would be proud of.:mad:

Just this summer, 3 former Anglo bosses were arrested and charged.

David Drumm is currently facing extradition charges to be brought back to Ireland.

Seánie Fitz is facing charges and will be brought to court in May 16.

And what you're angry about is in no way related to us, as a country, living within our means. We're all affected by the crisis.

There seems to be outrage towards the current government, who were brave enough to put themselves forward to fix the mess, instead of those who made it (FF) and the far left who would only make it worse and add more debt and create more instability.

For Reals

This is the Fine Gael appreciation thread. Amusing, sad, pathethic.

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Worry not.

Just 6 months to go and this evil government will be no more.

utopia awaits.

More concerned about the same ol' same ol' and the next recession.

Bulbous Salutation wrote: »

It seems like an honest assessment of the dire financial circumstances the State found itself in at the time. The Sovereign was for all intents and purposes teetering on the edge of default.

It's anathema to many of the perennial moaners and cranks around here, but this Government did a fine job of implementing successive austerity budgets. Austerity being the grotesque idea of living within your means.

It's upsetting that vote eligible adults believe such things and think this had more than a minor role in the gambling crash overseen by financial cartels.

For Reals

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

The alternative government, month in- month out poll 5% to 8% higher than the incumbents.

The numbers are becoming irresistible.

The party that bankrupted the state, back in because the voters tired of the idea of the state paying for itself.

Where do you live, Enda's spare room?
I'm sick of the bull**** spin we all had a mad party of it and it ruined the country and Fine Gael helped us back on our feet. It's just not true.
It was gambling, except the house, (tax payer) pays win or lose and an improved economy if you're connected to Fine Gael or too big to fail/pay tax. Don't make me puke with your nonsense and bull****.

_Tombstone_

Landing the Irish People with having to pay back unsecured Bond Holders 10s of Billions is just one of Kenny's highlights for me.

efb

washman3 wrote: »

So does Denis O'Brien...

Yawn

efb

_Tombstone_ wrote: »

Landing the Irish People with having to pay back unsecured Bond Holders 10s of Billions is just one of Kenny's highlights for me.

That wasn't Enda's doing, and looks like the EU strong-armed the former government into that one...

efb

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

The alternative government, month in- month out poll 5% to 8% higher than the incumbents.

The numbers are becoming irresistible.

The party that bankrupted the state, back in because the voters tired of the idea of the state paying for itself.

what is the alternative SF/FF don't have the numbers, either do SF/Hard Left

BoJack Horseman

efb wrote: »

SF/FF don't have the numbers,

They are ticking along at 40%, easily 60-65 seats should be the target

This won't be enough for a majority, but much closer than the incumbents polling at around 32-34%.

People assumed it would never happen, but the reality is, with every passing poll, this current government will not be reelected.

the people want the good times to roll again.

Uriel.

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

They are ticking along at 40%, easily 60-65 seats should be the target

This won't be enough for a majority, but much closer than the incumbents polling at around 32-34%.

People assumed it would never happen, but the reality is, with every passing poll, this current government will not be reelected.

the people want the good times to roll again.

The good times of doing **** all and getting plenty of money from the state? The times of stifling entrepreneurship and hard graft by taxing the **** out of the "rich" so **** heads like Paul Murphy can Swan around the place inciting public disorder?

I think I'll keep the "bad" times

JustTheOne

Uriel. wrote: »

The good times of doing **** all and getting plenty of money from the state? The times of stifling entrepreneurship and hard graft by taxing the **** out of the "rich" so **** heads like Paul Murphy can Swan around the place inciting public disorder?

I think I'll keep the "bad" times

I think boJack is agreeing with you, he just has a sarcastic way!

I dunno sometimes I think let sf and ff back in and we can finally see the damage they will do. Then let fg fix the mess as usual and we won't have to be dealing with sf again.

nagel

Typical boards, the title is about enda kenny and the embarrassment he causes, to me at least when he opens his mouth abroad

huey1975

There is a lot of crazy right wing stuff on boards.ie.
is it not obvious that communism is the way to go. It has been so successful in the old Soviet Union, China , Cuba etc. look at the massive crisis in South Korea with all of those poor starving hungry people lining up on the border trying to get to the utopia that is the Communist state of North Korea.
There are some crazy notions that some hardworking people are just greedy bastards and why should they have a higher standard of living than someone who lies in bed till noon and then ambles down to the post office to collect a few pound, and then spend the afternoon between the bookies and pub. It's crazy stuff.
WE SHOULD ALL GET THE SAME REGARDLESS OF OUR WORK ETHIC AND PRODUCTIVITY---
ITS ONLY FAIR

BoJack Horseman

nagel wrote: »

Typical boards, the title is about enda kenny and the embarrassment he causes, to me at least when he opens his mouth abroad

The Taoiseach was repeating an anecdotal conversation with the central bank governor some years back.

There was no plan for military deployment..... Just the governor feeling jittery if anger turns to violence (which it did at banks in Greece).

If a trivial anecdote sends you into a shame chasm, take a day off and rest!

nagel

If thats the way you see it so be it, have a strong coffee yourself and change the glasses

BoJack Horseman

nagel wrote: »

If thats the way you see it so be its

That's they way anyone would objectively see it.

Anecdotes are anecdotes.... nothing controversial in the slightest.

Godge

_Tombstone_ wrote: »

Landing the Irish People with having to pay back unsecured Bond Holders 10s of Billions is just one of Kenny's highlights for me.

Eh?

Bulbous Salutation

Oops69 wrote: »

This is tongue in cheek I presume , and by ' running ' you mean ruining of course.
Kenny is an utterly spineless national emabarrasment , the electorate will put him out of his misery soon enough .

Kenny is a great leader. A social and economic Admin when it comes' to Government.

_Tombstone_

efb wrote: »

That wasn't Enda's doing, and looks like the EU strong-armed the former government into that one...

It was him.

Sand

Kenny is a danger whenever he gets in reach of a microphone. Often seems eager to tell the public about imaginary conversations he has with people. None of the conversations can be objectively substantiated by anyone, but they happened - really!

Nonetheless, people will try to convince you that a man with imaginary friends, who has accomplished none of the minor goals set for and by himself, is well suited to lead the republic.

efb

_Tombstone_ wrote: »

It was him.

references and source???

FalconGirl

Bulbous Salutation wrote: »

Absolutely. It's been a fine Government, both from an economic and social point of view. It's one that history will look very kindly upon. FG and Labour have always made good bedfellows when it comes to running this place.

Social............. the day after one of the biggest hospitals in the countries has to stop admitting patients due to overcrowding? Have you taken a walk around the streets of Dublin lately and seen the massive amounts of homeless sleeping in doorways at night? Not too sure about that. This Govt have been a mix of good and absolutely atrocious.

_Tombstone_

efb wrote: »

references and source???

3 second google...

JustTheOne

FalconGirl wrote: »

Social............. the day after one of the biggest hospitals in the countries has to stop admitting patients? Have you taken a walk around the streets of Dublin lately and seen the massive amounts of homeless sleeping in doorways at night? Not too sure about that.

There has always been homeless people. There was more sleeping rough during the boom.

There homeless people sleeping rough in every city in the world and has always been.

But of course up all endas fault. It's his fault these people choose to inject themselves with heroin or end up addicted to alcohol and end up on the street.

All his fault.

FalconGirl

JustTheOne wrote: »

There has always been homeless people. There was more sleeping rough during the boom.

There homeless people sleeping rough in every city in the world and has always been.

But of course up all endas fault. It's his fault these people choose to inject themselves with heroin or end up addicted to alcohol and end up on the street.

All his fault.

Did I blame Enda?:rolleyes: Walk around Dublin City Centre some night. See for yourself. Its far worse now.

Also not everyone who ends up on the street have alcohol or heroin addictions. Such ignorance by yourself.

Whats your opinion on Beaumount Hospital having to shut its doors because of overcrowding? That should not happen in a first world country.

JustTheOne

FalconGirl wrote: »

Did I blame Enda?:rolleyes: Walk around Dublin some night. See for yourself. Its far worse now.

Lowest since 2007

http://m.rte.ie/news/2015/0430/697743-homeless-figures/

But don't let facts get in the way of your good rant.

You should try not taking what Ruth and Paul Murphy say as gospel.

ancapailldorcha

_Tombstone_ wrote: »

3 second google...

Please don't just dump links here. Some user input is required.

FalconGirl wrote: »

Did I blame Enda?:rolleyes: Walk around Dublin City Centre some night. See for yourself. Its far worse now.

Also not everyone who ends up on the street have alcohol or heroin addictions. Such ignorance by yourself.

Whats your opinion on Beaumount Hospital having to shut its doors because of overcrowding? That should not happen in a first world country.

If you have a problem with a post, report it and let the mods handle it.

JustTheOne

FalconGirl wrote: »

Did I blame Enda?:rolleyes: Walk around Dublin City Centre some night. See for yourself. Its far worse now.

Also not everyone who ends up on the street have alcohol or heroin addictions. Such ignorance by yourself.

Whats your opinion on Beaumount Hospital having to shut its doors because of overcrowding? That should not happen in a first world country.

Health service is a mess alright. Always has been.

But its also not fair to always focus on the A and E situation.

A huge amount of great work takes place in our hospitals and a lot of areas have been improved.

It's not fair to constantly put it down. People in these hospitals deserve more credit.

FalconGirl

JustTheOne wrote: »

Lowest since 2007

http://m.rte.ie/news/2015/0430/697743-homeless-figures/

But don't let facts get in the way of your good rant.

You should try not taking what Ruth and Paul Murphy say as gospel.

I form my own opinions and use my own eyes. I was there just an hour ago as I am every night of the week. Utter tripe and window dressing imo. The problem is escalating.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/call-for-greater-action-on-homelessness-after-man-s-death-1.2367142

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/some-1-500-children-in-emergency-accommodation-1.2358946

JustTheOne

FalconGirl wrote: »

I form my own opinions and use my own eyes. I was there just an hour ago as I am every night of the week. Utter tripe and window dressing imo. The problem is escalating.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/call-for-greater-action-on-homelessness-after-man-s-death-1.2367142

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/some-1-500-children-in-emergency-accommodation-1.2358946

You said people sleeping rough has increased. I just left a link to show your talking bull****. If that's You forming your own opinion You need to rethink it because your wrong.

You do realise the person who died in your first link wasn't homeless. It came out he in fact lived in Wicklow and was on a night out.

You see once someone says something about the government there is a certain section who just believe it straightaway.

Anything for a good rant.

There is work to be done with regards people in emergency accommodation.

It's not as simple building houses and putting them in.

People won't move away from an area even though they could rent outside Dublin


Anyway these modular units they are building as we speak will go a long way to help.

BOHtox

_Tombstone_ wrote: »

3 second google...

I stopped reading after "Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny".

I've never even heard of that source tbh

efb

_Tombstone_ wrote: »

3 second google...

1. you said tens of billions, thats 1.5 billion
2. its doesn't say he chose to pay them, again FF/Green created that obligation

Shurimgreat

FalconGirl wrote: »

I form my own opinions and use my own eyes. I was there just an hour ago as I am every night of the week. Utter tripe and window dressing imo. The problem is escalating.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/call-for-greater-action-on-homelessness-after-man-s-death-1.2367142

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/some-1-500-children-in-emergency-accommodation-1.2358946

I would agree the homeless situation does seem like at an all time high and when you walk around at night there seems to be more than ever sleeping rough. I'd have a hard time believing those statistics, there's always a way to massage homelessness stats. When rents increase homelessness becomes a problem. A family living in a hotel room because of lack of accomodation would they be considered homeless? And yet a distressing situation all the same.

ezra_pound

Hollister11 wrote: »

I hope you know Fine Gael will be back on goverment. Labour maybe not, but FG defiantly.

All throughout this governments term I have been a SF supporter, but over gr last few months I have moved to Fine Gael.

With the exception of Irish Water, they have been a fine goverment.

That's great news. Good to see people come to their senses. I hope there's many more like you over the next few months.

Not only has the government been very impressive but also Enda, as a Taoiseach, has been a real success.

Out of interest, what shifted you away from the lunatic fringe?

Hollister11

ezra_pound wrote: »

That's great news. Good to see people come to their senses. I hope there's many more like you over the next few months.

Not only has the government been very impressive but also Enda, as a Taoiseach, has been a real success.

Out of interest, what shifted you away from the lunatic fringe?

There financial policies mostly, but also that they challenge every idea the government has. They don't agree with anything the government says, so how can they possibly agree with another party if in government.

In fairness i was 15 when the government entered office, I'm 19 now and have a bit more sense.

• Abolish unfair taxes - the Property Tax and Water Charges.
• Remove those on the minimum wage from the USC net.
• Introduce a third rate of income tax on individual earnings over €100,000.
• Introduce a tax on individual net wealth in excess of €1 million euros, excluding working farmland and business assets.
• Increase the tax take as a percentage GDP in a fair and progressive manner.
• Overhaul the tax system to ensure the elimination of tax avoidance, unfair reliefs and loopholes.
• Renegotiate the deficit reductions targets to make them socially, economically and fiscally responsible.

I agree with the first one. These taxes are a bit of a farce and should be scraped.

USC should either be for everyone or know one.

I don't think a wealth tax is fair, if your successful why should you get financially punished as you're creating value to the economy with job, and corporation tax anyway.

JustTheOne

Hollister11 wrote: »

There financial policies mostly, but also that they challenge every idea the government has. They don't agree with anything the government says, so how can they possibly agree with another party if in government.

In fairness i was 15 when the government entered office, I'm 19 now and have a bit more sense.

• Abolish unfair taxes - the Property Tax and Water Charges.
• Remove those on the minimum wage from the USC net.
• Introduce a third rate of income tax on individual earnings over €100,000.
• Introduce a tax on individual net wealth in excess of €1 million euros, excluding working farmland and business assets.
• Increase the tax take as a percentage GDP in a fair and progressive manner.
• Overhaul the tax system to ensure the elimination of tax avoidance, unfair reliefs and loopholes.
• Renegotiate the deficit reductions targets to make them socially, economically and fiscally responsible.

I agree with the first one. These taxes are a bit of a farce and should be scraped.

USC should either be for everyone or know one.

I don't think a wealth tax is fair, if your successful why should you get financially punished as you're creating value to the economy with job, and corporation tax anyway.

Property tax is a wealth tax.