Residents object to temporary halting site

end of the road

katydid wrote: »

If people can't get on with family or neighbours, they either have to learn to get on, or figure out a way to live away from them. It's not their right to demand accommodation that facilitates their social interaction with family members.

The NEED is for a roof over their heads. The rest are wishes and demands. They are not - or should not be - entitled to have wishes and demands pandered to.

If they feud and create problems for others, it's up to the gardaí to deal with it and bring the people before the appropriate authorities.

if people not getting on with family or neighbours means garda resources have to be deployed then they must be accommodated separately. the accommodation must meet the persons needs and thats the end of it.

Juran

Tonight's RTE news reports that the Dublin council (Dun Laoghaire council I think) is providing new mobile homes for the families on the newly identified site (council owned car park), the site which they are also providing.
Over recent years I have watched people on the news lose their homes due to floods (Cork and Clonmel springs to mind), and others due to fire as well (one family that I actually know off). It is very sad and tragic that 10 people lost their lives last week in a Dublin halting site, that we all agree on. But when did the local authorities provide mobile homes and land to the people who lost homes in floods and other fires. If I walk into my local council office today and ask for the same, am I as a tax payer and Irish citizen entitled to it? I think the answer is no. And this is where I have a huge issue with inequality in this country, between travellers and the rest of us.
The family I know spent a number of years living with relatives until they were able to re-build their lives, paid for by themselves, without one bit of help from the local council.

end of the road

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ah yes, 'entitled' ....an excuse for someone not to get off their own backside and provide for themselves and their family.

And yes, they should be damn well grateful. Loads more people made homeless have not had the council bending over backwards for them.

the council aren't "bending over backwards" they are dealing with a family who have lost a large number of family in the biggest loss of life in a fire since the stardust disaster. its an extra ordinary situation. thats it

Juran wrote: »

Tonight's RTE news reports that the Dublin council (Dun Laoghaire council I think) is providing new mobile homes for the families on the newly identified site (council owned car park), the site which they are also providing.
Over recent years I have watched people on the news lose their homes due to floods (Cork and Clonmel springs to mind), and others due to fire as well (one family that I actually know off). It is very sad and tragic that 10 people lost their lives last week in a Dublin halting site, that we all agree on. But when did the local authorities provide mobile homes and land to the people who lost homes in floods and other fires. If I walk into my local council office today and ask for the same, am I as a tax payer and Irish citizen entitled to it? I think the answer is no. And this is where I have a huge issue with inequality in this country, between travellers and the rest of us.
The family I know spent a number of years living with relatives until they were able to re-build their lives, paid for by themselves, without one bit of help from the local council.

its not this families fault that others aren't provided for. the council are doing what they are legally required to do. their hands are tied.

The Talking Bread

end of the road wrote: »

i can't apologise for something i haven't done. i haven't legitimized any violence. withdraw the allegation.




we are doing that. travelers are locked up for breaking the law. not everyone who should be locked up is but thats up to the government to build the needed prison spaces to ensure everyone who needs locking up can be



yes, people break the law in all walks of life. they know its illegal but do it anyway. which is why the government need to ensure the resources and prison spaces are availible


pavee point are absolutely on the button here. martin collins is absolutely right about local authorities not being able to enforce their authority


those still taking part in nomadic traditions clearly need basic facilities yes. whether you like that or not means nothing.

Do you think a person who spent years on a boat but it became inhabitable rendering him homeless could make a case to local authority for a new boat. The only reason travellers get their way in this regard is over the top liberalists like you will cry discrimination when it is ironically the opposite.

end of the road

end of the road wrote: »

the council aren't "bending over backwards" they are dealing with a family who have lost a large number of family in the biggest loss of life in a fire since the stardust disaster. its an extra ordinary situation. thats it

And do you honestly think the council would be doing this for a taxpayer (or settled person) or call them what you will?????

katydid

end of the road wrote: »

its not this families fault that others aren't provided for. the council are doing what they are legally required to do. their hands are tied.

That's true. The law is an ass. And needs to be changed.

runawaybishop

end of the road wrote: »

if people not getting on with family or neighbours means garda resources have to be deployed then they must be accommodated separately. the accommodation must meet the persons needs and thats the end of it.

No matter how many times you pretend something is true, its still a big pile of bull****.

Wants are not needs.

Chorus_suck

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KERSPLAT!

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1021/736544-carrickmines-fire-housing-location/

Mod

A resolution has been found between the parties involved. We're going in circles at this stage. Some traveller bashing, trolling, etc creeping in so we're gonna lock it up

Thanks