Eir rural FTTH thread

BandMember

pegasus1 wrote: »

If one has a family, all with ipad's, a skybox with on demand with either skyq or multiroom, an apple tv, Laptops,1 Tb would not last long...oh yeah xbox etc...

damienirel wrote: »

Steam, spotify, netflix, kodi plugins, youtube, youporn, torrents...... the list goes on and on 1tb is nathin nowadays lol.

With numerous laptops going, mobiles on wifi, downloading and in a streaming tv only household, we'd struggle to hit 500GB a month. I only know one person who ever hit the 1TB and that's because they were downloading far more than they could ever watch...

Which makes my other point about people being taking to proper internet like ducks to water even more accurate! :pac:

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ALimerickFella wrote: »

i got pushed back to 2018 last month sadly.

now for the last two days eir vans are outside on road doing some sort of planning,

they have hammered a red letter D 2"x2" on a white background and underneath it a bar code 2"x1" onto a pole.


anyone have any idea what this represents..
not sure how to post pictures, (perhaps it's this new account i had to create as boards google account integration appears not to work correctly)

The "D" means the pole is to be replaced. The barcode is an identifier and most likely has always been on the pole.

pegasus1

BandMember wrote: »

With numerous laptops going, mobiles on wifi, downloading and in a streaming tv only household, we'd struggle to hit 500GB a month. I only know one person who ever hit the 1TB and that's because they were downloading far more than they could ever watch...

Which makes my other point about people being taking to proper internet like ducks to water even more accurate! :pac:

are you watching stuff in HD?

damienirel

ALimerickFella wrote: »

i got pushed back to 2018 last month sadly.

now for the last two days eir vans are outside on road doing some sort of planning,

they have hammered a red letter D 2"x2" on a white background and underneath it a bar code 2"x1" onto a pole.


anyone have any idea what this represents..
not sure how to post pictures, (perhaps it's this new account i had to create as boards google account integration appears not to work correctly)

What exchange are you on?

long_b

BandMember wrote: »

With numerous laptops going, mobiles on wifi, downloading and in a streaming tv only household, we'd struggle to hit 500GB a month. I only know one person who ever hit the 1TB and that's because they were downloading far more than they could ever watch...

Which makes my other point about people being taking to proper internet like ducks to water even more accurate! :pac:

With such high bandwidth a lot of services are going to automatically stream at a higher quality and so use more data for the same viewing time.

BandMember

pegasus1 wrote: »

are you watching stuff in HD?

Yep. I can't remember the last time I watched something in SD....

ED E

BandMember wrote: »

Yep. I can't remember the last time I watched something in SD....

Clearly never use the RTE player :pac:

damienirel

ED E wrote: »

Clearly never use the RTE player :pac:

Tried to use that once and was :eek: at the amount of ads.

pegasus1

long_b wrote: »

With such high bandwidth a lot of services are going to automatically stream at a higher quality and so use more data for the same viewing time.

Exactly, a typical Hd show on sky on demand is 2.64 Gb's for a 42or a 50 min show...on a 4Mb connection...Sky lists a show typiically at 4Gb for same then when connects to d/l the show reduces the size to 2.x Gb

BandMember

ED E wrote: »

Clearly never use the RTE player :pac:

No, I have......um......"other sources" for my tv viewing.....

damienirel wrote: »

Tried to use that once and was :eek: at the amount of ads.

That's why I don't use it - it's a complete joke and never works properly anyway, especially for any live streaming. The amount of adverts on it make the Australian tv channels look like the BBC! :rolleyes:

Anyway, I apologise for veering the thead off topic...

rob808

BandMember wrote: »

Yep. I can't remember the last time I watched something in SD....

I watch most my programs in SD don't really see much differ in full HD now 4k would be a different story. I would say you would use loads of data streaming in 4k.

pegasus1

BandMember wrote: »

Anyway, I apologise for veering the thead off topic...

Gives a break from...are we there yet...with Fibre all the time..;)

pegasus1

rob808 wrote: »

I watch most my programs in SD don't really see much differ in full HD now 4k would be a different story. I would say you would use loads of data streaming in 4k.

4K = about 11.25 Gb's an hour
also the difference between Sd and Hd is something blooby and sharp

Gonzo

Eir will probably respond and up the FUP sometime this year hopefully. There are 3 or 4 new posts about it recently and each time Eir have had to suspend the excess charges for that first month.

Whats particularly annoying is that there really is no warning system in place. When you check your usage on myeir it says how much you have downloaded and the amount left to download in the month just says unlimited. The fair usage policy is extremely hidden.

They either need to change their plans and put in the download limits or go properly unlimited which I can't see happening. When 4K becomes more commonplace, the usage limits will definitely have to rise.

damienirel

Gonzo wrote: »

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They either need to change their plans and put in the download limits or go properly unlimited which I can't see happening. When 4K becomes more commonplace, the usage limits will definitely have to rise.

Shouldn't comreg be enforcing that? advertise what you're selling not this "unlimited" lies.

MBSnr

damienirel wrote: »

Shouldn't comreg be enforcing that? advertise what you're selling not this "unlimited" lies.

Haha haha... You said Comreg and enforcing in the same sentence! The mobile and telecom companies seem to occasionally tell Comreg what they are going to do and Comreg go - 'okay'.

damienirel

MBSnr wrote: »

Haha haha... You said Comreg and enforcing in the same sentence! The mobile and telecom companies seem to occasionally tell Comreg what they are going to do and Comreg go - 'okay'.

Yeah they are a complete joke I agree. How many complaints have they gotten over the ages for FUP used in tandem with the nonsense that is "Unlimited" in the advertising of products.

The Cush

ALimerickFella wrote: »

i got pushed back to 2018 last month sadly.

now for the last two days eir vans are outside on road doing some sort of planning,

they have hammered a red letter D 2"x2" on a white background and underneath it a bar code 2"x1" onto a pole.

anyone have any idea what this represents.

I spoke to the person doing this in our area late last year. D indicates a defective pole for replacement, this could be an old pole or a pole not at the correct depth into the ground. He was also attaching the barcode id tag to any pole that didn't have one. The GPS location of the pole was then recorded to a map on his tablet, this also recorded which poles had to be replaced with a red dot on the map. The information was uploaded to their database when he returned to the depot that evening.

No pole replacement yet but last month existing poles were marked and underground ducting installed between certain poles followed by hedge cutting over 2-3 days. The area is due to go live this Autumn.

ALimerickFella

fantastic tnx for the info, explains perfectly

BandMember

rob808 wrote: »

I watch most my programs in SD don't really see much differ in full HD now 4k would be a different story. I would say you would use loads of data streaming in 4k.

If you can't tell the difference between SD and HD, I would have a few questions for you! Who says that some people (cough) are not already streaming in 4K?

damienirel

The Cush wrote: »

I spoke to the person doing this in our area late last year. D indicates a defective pole for replacement, this could be an old pole or a pole not at the correct depth into the ground. He was also attaching the barcode id tag to any pole that didn't have one. The GPS location of the pole was then recorded to a map on his tablet, this also recorded which poles had to be replaced with a red dot on the map. The information was uploaded to their database when he returned to the depot that evening.

No pole replacement yet but last month existing poles were marked and underground ducting installed between certain poles followed by hedge cutting over 2-3 days. The area is due to go live this Autumn.

That could be just regular pole replacement? The were doing this last year on my route. Until I see some of those splice boxes and fibre being hung from the poles I know I'm nowhere near getting connected. Plenty of posters here have had signs of activity a year ago and nothing since. There seems to be big gaps between stages of the roll-out as teams move from area to area. As one poster put it "are we there yet" - kinda sums up the jist of this thread.

Gonzo

even with Eir's FTTH I would stay away from streaming in 4k till the FUP is at least doubled. Binging boxsets on Netflix in 4k regularly would eat through that 1tb cap.

Icyseanfitz

Got my installation appointment for next Thursday, is it a brand new cable they have to route directly to the house? When we reinstalled an eir line a few years ago they made us put it underground, I can imagine this will now be used as an excuse as to why they can't install the new line

damienirel

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Got my installation appointment for next Thursday, is it a brand new cable they have to route directly to the house? When we reinstalled an eir line a few years ago they made us put it underground, I can imagine this will now be used as an excuse as to why they can't install the new line

They'd need to be serious apes not to use the existing ducting.

Gonzo

pegasus1 wrote: »

4K = about 11.25 Gb's an hour
also the difference between Sd and Hd is something blooby and sharp

SD is a strange one.

On Saorview and especially Sky, SD looks very blurry, often pixilated and terrible.

On free to air satellite and sometimes Virgin Media, the same SD channels look noticeably better than it does through Sky.

HD is a huge improvement over SD via Sky.

I've seen Eir's TV Service a few times and everything just looked the same quality, I wouldn't rate it much, I dunno is it the boxes they are using are just really high compression.

The Cush

damienirel wrote: »

That could be just regular pole replacement?

I've never seen regular pole replacement in my area other than storm damage replacement, reactive rather than proactive. The open-eir person said it was being done for the rollout of fibre. Saying that, all poles in the area were id'd and marked where necessary, both on the blue line routes and beyond but I'd guess only those on the rural fibre route will be replaced with the rest maybe at NBP rollout or beyond, there a lifetime in those defective plates attached to the poles.

damienirel

The Cush wrote: »

I've never seen regular pole replacement in my area other than storm damage replacement, reactive rather than proactive. The open-eir person said it was being done for the rollout of fibre. Saying that, all poles in the area were id'd and marked where necessary, both on the blue line routes and beyond but I'd guess only those on the rural fibre route will be replaced with the rest maybe at NBP rollout or beyond, there a lifetime in those defective plates attached to the poles.

yeah I'm guessing you're right about "reactive rather than proactive" .
LMAO at "there a lifetime in those defective plates attached to the poles."
:D:D

pegasus1

The Cush wrote: »

I've never seen regular pole replacement in my area other than storm damage replacement, reactive rather than proactive. The open-eir person said it was being done for the rollout of fibre. Saying that, all poles in the area were id'd and marked where necessary, both on the blue line routes and beyond but I'd guess only those on the rural fibre route will be replaced with the rest maybe at NBP rollout or beyond, there a lifetime in those defective plates attached to the poles.

New replacement poles was done ages ago in our area..something like 3-5 years ago...

rob808

BandMember wrote: »

If you can't tell the difference between SD and HD, I would have a few questions for you! Who says that some people (cough) are not already streaming in 4K?

I can tell the difference thanks,I was just making a point you can watch in SD and use less data.I dont think alot people in rural ireland can watch tv in full HD that why they have SKY oh and you can watch 4k with them now .

oscarBravo

ED E wrote: »

There's ATM overhead so 146 is about bang on.

Didn't think there was any ATM in the NGA network? Isn't it pure IP?