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    #302
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    No one is any gender


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    #303
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Nodin wrote: »
    Well, women have breasts and a vagina, so if somebody had one but not the other, because they felt comfortable that way....

    Fat guys have breasts. Some women can basically have no breasts.

    Does that mean that people can just decide to call themselves any number of pretend halfway house gender descriptors just because?

    Fine so. I'm a woman now. I have no female sex organs and don't look or feel like a woman but i've decided i am one anyway.

    You're a bigot if you tell me i'm not because i say i am and that is apparently all that matters now.


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    #304
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Fat guys have breasts. Some women can basically have no breasts.

    Does that mean that people can just decide to call themselves any number of pretend halfway house gender descriptors just because?

    Fine so. I'm a woman now. I have no female sex organs and don't look or feel like a woman but i've decided i am one anyway.

    You're a bigot if you tell me i'm not because i say i am and that is apparently all that matters now.


    That makes no sense, even by "silly example" standards.


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    #305
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,342 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    Extreme political correctness is a headwreck in fairness.

    Quite.

    But, I think for the most part the alleged pervasiveness of political correctness is overhyped by some media commentators because it suits a narrative whinge. Some stories are reported in a particular way, often without much depth, to suit preconceptions about PCness.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

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    #306
    Smidge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Fat guys have breasts. Some women can basically have no breasts.

    Does that mean that people can just decide to call themselves any number of pretend halfway house gender descriptors just because?

    Fine so. I'm a woman now. I have no female sex organs and don't look or feel like a woman but i've decided i am one anyway.

    You're a bigot if you tell me i'm not because i say i am and that is apparently all that matters now.

    Do we have to call you Loretta now? :pac:


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    #307
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Nodin wrote: »
    That makes no sense, even by "silly example" standards.

    You're right.

    I've decided i'm actually an otherkin dragon trapped in the body of a 14 year old Japanese schoolgirl called Miko. I don't look like a Japanese schoolgirl or anything but i've decided that's what i am so you aren't allowed to say anything negative about dragons, women, Japanese people or headcases who think they are something that they simply aren't.


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    #308
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    the colour blue doesn't exist. It's a social construct.


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    #309
    Dimithy
    Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Dimithy


    Seems to be an unpopular opinion on the internet:
    The overwhelming majority of what people call PC, is just treating other people with respect, and decency. Sure, there are some extremely fringe elements, but mostly its just trying to make people realise that ****ting on people who are a minority, or are different, is not as harmless as some like to think.


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    #310
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Anti ECB/IMF/EU types are our equivalent of the conspiracy theory nutters in America who think the government over there is run by lizard people/Illuminati/Monsanto/aliens.

    They are only actually taken somewhat seriously over here at the moment because they are a relatively new phenomenon.


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    #311
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Anti ECB/IMF/EU types are our equivalent of the conspiracy theory nutters in America who think the government over there is run by lizard people/Illuminati/Monsanto/aliens.

    They are only actually taken somewhat seriously over here at the moment because they are a relatively new phenomenon.

    Unless you actually believe that the U.S. was run by alien lizards that's just not true. Ireland was controlled by the troika.


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    #312
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Dimithy wrote: »
    Seems to be an unpopular opinion on the internet:
    The overwhelming majority of what people call PC, is just treating other people with respect, and decency. Sure, there are some extremely fringe elements, but mostly its just trying to make people realise that ****ting on people who are a minority, or are different, is not as harmless as some like to think.

    Political correctness never protected the white male. So it's not just politeness.


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    #313
    Dimithy
    Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Dimithy


    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    Political correctness never protected the white male. So it's not just politeness.

    Protected them from what?


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    #314
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Dimithy wrote: »
    Protected them from what?

    From impoliteness.


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    #315
    Dimithy
    Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Dimithy


    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    From impoliteness.

    As a white male, you're going to have to explain this to me.


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    #316
    umop apisdn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭umop apisdn


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    No one is any gender

    That's discriminatory against those that do


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    #317
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Dimithy wrote: »
    As a white male, you're going to have to explain this to me.

    Really? You said it's not about criticising certain groups but it's clearly easy to pick on "whites".

    The very fact that you quote that americanised rot "as a white male" proves there is little hope for you.

    My unpopular opinion. Identity politics is a right wing American ideology designed hide the power of Empire, finance and class, to hide American supremacy and substitute "white". Europeans come in all shapes, cultures and colours and most of them -- the Irish, the Belarusians, the polish, the Finnish, the Swedes, etc etc etc etc are in no way a dominant world power. Tell it to the Greeks.


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    #318
    newmug
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    The Black Oil wrote: »
    Quite.

    But, I think for the most part the alleged pervasiveness of political correctness is overhyped by some media commentators because it suits a narrative whinge. Some stories are reported in a particular way, often without much depth, to suit preconceptions about PCness.


    Would you have any examples of this?


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    #319
    Dimithy
    Registered Users Posts: 351 ✭✭Dimithy


    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    Really? You said it's not about criticising certain groups but it's clearly easy to pick on "whites".

    The very fact that you quote that americanised rot "as a white male" proves there is little hope for you.

    Eh...
    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    Political correctness never protected the white male. So it's not just politeness.

    I responded to your use of white male. I apologise for using a phrase that you introduced into the conversation.


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    #320
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    You're right.

    I've decided i'm actually an otherkin dragon trapped in the body of a 14 year old Japanese schoolgirl called Miko. I don't look like a Japanese schoolgirl or anything but i've decided that's what i am so you aren't allowed to say anything negative about dragons, women, Japanese people or headcases who think they are something that they simply aren't.


    Fair enough and I respect your diversity, but its a life of tentacles up the arse fer you.


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    #321
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,342 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    newmug wrote: »
    Would you have any examples of this?

    Bill O' Reilly vs. Christmas vs. atheists comes to mind. :p

    Not off the top of my head re recent events or stories, though. I do cringe the way some stories are published because copy and paste journalism and the need to be first has replaced that of accuracy. I often don't read pieces that scream about political correctness because it gets tiresome. That's a 'lil confirmation bias on my part, of course. At times there's too much carry on now with the backlash and the backlash against the backlash. I think some of it's just people trying to big up themselves online rather then being mildly or seriously offended.

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    #322
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Anyone who sees themselves as part of a minority group in one way, often purposely ignore, or inadvertently miss the fact that they are part of other majority groups, in so many other ways.

    Identity politics is, by it's own definition a divisive and separatist philosophy, played by people who don't want to have themselves recognised as part of society because while they want to reap the benefits of being a member of that society such as their rights and so on, they're not nearly so forward when it comes to contributing towards that society or replacing the chips on their shoulders with the burden of responsibility instead.


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    #323
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Dimithy wrote: »
    Seems to be an unpopular opinion on the internet:
    The overwhelming majority of what people call PC, is just treating other people with respect, and decency. Sure, there are some extremely fringe elements, but mostly its just trying to make people realise that ****ting on people who are a minority, or are different, is not as harmless as some like to think.

    What's more, you'll tend to find those that shout "PC" "liberal leftie" and so on (often in hilariously poor context - someone once called a car 'PC' on here :pac: ) also cry victim the loudest and the longest. Lately they have actually just whipped the victim card out right in the first few posts of any thread with "I would say how I feel but I'm afraid of the mods" type nonsense. It's quite interesting to observe, actually. :p


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    #324
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    The very fact that you quote that americanised rot "as a white male" proves there is little hope for you.
    :pac:

    What was he supposed to say, given YOU referred to how it never protected 'the white male'???


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    #325
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    newmug wrote: »
    Would you have any examples of this?
    If clowns on Twitter, Tumblr and the Guardian are upset by people not using extreme politically correct terminology, they're just a bunch of cranks - they're not the norm. I never encounter people like that day to day. Never. I just ignore them or wind them up, but certainly don't view them as having an effect on me or my life.

    There are issues that can't be discussed in a sensible manner for sure though, e.g. immigration. But that's because of extreme eejitry from both sides. If people could meet in the middle, I'm sure a constructive discussion could be had.


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    #326
    HalloweenJack
    Registered Users Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Four people have died in the last month in Spain during bull runs. I have no sympathy for them.


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    #327
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    HalloweenJack wrote: »
    Four people have died in the last month in Spain during bull runs. I have no sympathy for them.

    Why do Spaniards have such a hard on for abusing bulls, what the hell is wrong with these people.


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    #328
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    What other possible reason could there be?

    A person is either one or the other. Sorry that your trans lifestyle has become (thankfully) so widely accepted that you have to come up with something else to label it as so that you can feel unique.

    Another unpopular opinion:

    Society and the media (particularly the internet) has made a lot of younger people feel like everyone deserves to be considered special when there are very few truly special people in the world and everyone else is just run of the mill. Including myself and probably everyone reading this post :P

    The amount of 20-somethings i know who can't handle this fact and basically fall apart when confronted with it is alarming to me in the context of the future of the world.

    Why do they have to be one or the other, they might not identity with either gender, and a person can be born with both male and female sex organs.


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    #329
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,866 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Why do Spaniards have such a hard on for abusing bulls, what the hell is wrong with these people.

    To their credit, Catalonia has a ban on bullfighting.


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    #330
    newmug
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    fin12 wrote: »
    Why do they have to be one or the other, they might not identity with either gender, and a person can be born with both male and female sex organs.

    Biology. Thats why. You are either male, female, or hermaphrodite. There is no other options.


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    #331
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,415 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    HalloweenJack wrote: »
    Four people have died in the last month in Spain during bull runs. I have no sympathy for them.

    Doubt that is very unpopular and I agree with you, I couldn't care less about them either.

    The bulls are obviously frightened and if they gore some stupid gobsh1te it's his own fault.


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