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RightTurnClyde

keep going wrote: »

Is it my imagination or arecows bulling mad

Ya, thought I was imagining things as well. Definitely a lot of early activity.

whelan2

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Ya, thought I was imagining things as well. Definitely a lot of early activity.

Same here

trixi2011

Cows here are even bulling before they calve for some reason tjis year

kevthegaff

There's too much milk in the world for 2 years, NZ farmers are on their knees and what do we decide to do? Cut production at the cost of probably new entrants/expanded farms.. I can see the day when Fonterra milk is in the local Lidl

darragh_haven

Dawggone wrote: »

It will need a major reverse of policy from the Ag establishment, but you're correct, there are major savings to be made by embracing the use of old time farming methods coupled with modern research.


Dare I say the cussword...clover?

Feck clover . How about the auld fella next door that doesn't use any fertiliser. .... he should be your best friend

Milked out

keep going wrote: »

Is it my imagination or arecows bulling mad

Neighbour said the same to me today. In my case 2 of em were autumn calver's I didn't serve in autumn the rest were spring. I took a chance on the autumn side and dropped the number I'll have in calf back to 28 or so in the hope I'll fill most of the winter volume with Nov and Feb milk and supply the bare minimum for Dec and jan

kowtow

RightTurnClyde wrote:

As much as Ireland isn't NZ, it isn't France either.

True.

We don't have the work ethic.

bogman_bass

Dawggone wrote: »

There's a lot of negative media coming out of France and Germany about the extra production coming from IRL, DK, UK, BE and NL. Rumblings about enforcing nitrate regs on those countries...
There is a lot of talk also that the Irish Ag dept did not show up at a meeting about the scheme proposed by FR and DE.

The confidence of the French that their proposals will be considered comes from the fact that the Germans have rowed in behind them.



What happens to Belview if this becomes law? Irexit along with Brexit?
:)


Edit. "We will build a wall around Ireland, and the Irish will pay for it!"...

I think this is a purely french proposal. Anyways Germany pumpped out as much extra milk as anybody.

I think 10c is coming from when Friesland Campina paid farmers last year to reduce production in Holland but that was because one of their driers packed in around this time last year. Cant see 10c being payed out here

Unlikely to get passed at European level but apparently if individual counties want to do it they can fire ahead.

Balic Countries would love to see it more than anyone. they are getting something like 16c/l at the moment. Russians are stillgetting the milk but buying through Belarus who are buying at a discount and then sending it on

Dawggone

Got out early to put this going, only to be told by OH that the hunt are coming through later...

Using rain guns and sprinklers for soiled water is illegal here.

kevthegaff

Dawggone wrote: »

Got out early to put this going, only to be told by OH that the hunt are coming through later...

Using rain guns and sprinklers for soiled water is illegal here.

Do you have to move it much dawg? How many litres per hour?

mahoney_j

Dawggone wrote: »

Got out early to put this going, only to be told by OH that the hunt are coming through later...

Using rain guns and sprinklers for soiled water is illegal here.

Fook the hunt I'd be more worried about those power lines which look very close !!!

mahoney_j

Going with second round of fertliser late next week .2.5 of 18 6 12 everywhere .was thinking of using the 18s with 5% sulphur .opinions please is it too early for s ???.id normally start sulphur application on round 3 in April

Milked out

Lads dry ground here is still seriously soft, with covers after melting away. Only out by day with damage being done. Will get thru ground fast enough with cows so may buffer when grazing silage ground at end of rotation if things are slow to pick up. Depending on silage stocks left this will delay closing but i may just cut after 5 weeks to keep quality and second cut shouldnt be delayed. Could do with heat and a breeze to dry things out. Due to lack of slurry out will go 2 bags of 18 6 12 when it arrives next wk and follow with urea

Milked out

mahoney_j wrote: »

Going with second round of fertliser late next week .2.5 of 18 6 12 everywhere .was thinking of using the 18s with 5% sulphur .opinions please is it too early for s ???.id normally start sulphur application on round 3 in April

Well if you're on your second round of fert and growth has been rel slow there may be more N in the ground than normal and the S helps the plant convert this to true protein so may be no harm to go this round with it?

mahoney_j

Milked out wrote: »

Well if you're on your second round of fert and growth has been rel slow there may be more N in the ground than normal and the S helps the plant convert this to true protein so may be no harm to go this round with it?

That's what I'm thinking ,bag of urea already out and most of grazed ground has already got 2.5 to 3 k gallons slurry as well at this stage.regrowths really jumped on grazed ground the last 4 days with dry weather ,sun and bit of kindness in weather .some transformation in my ground this week ,7 days ago it was heavy and wouldn't of took a tanker without doing some damage now I could lib a 3 k gallon tank out on grazed paddocks and do no damage with a decent driver on board

Dawggone

kevthegaff wrote: »

Do you have to move it much dawg? How many litres per hour?

You just pull out the gun 450m and it pulls itself back in at 33m/hr.
It spreads it 75m wide and is applying 35mm of 'water'.

Dawggone

mahoney_j wrote: »

Fook the hunt I'd be more worried about those power lines which look very close !!!

The hunt have mobile phones and the water police have a confidential line...


Power lines are no problem, it sizzles off the water.

Dawggone

Milked out wrote: »

Well if you're on your second round of fert and growth has been rel slow there may be more N in the ground than normal and the S helps the plant convert this to true protein so may be no harm to go this round with it?

I'm going with 40units/acre of Sulphur across all cereals and grazing/silage ground next week.
I bought a few ton of 24%N + 58%S last week at €151/ton.
The weather is very drying now with an easterly wind and 18*. If the Sulphur isn't washed in, would it be ok to graze with milking cows?

mahoney_j

Dawggone wrote: »

I'm going with 40units/acre of Sulphur across all cereals and grazing/silage ground next week.
I bought a few ton of 24%N + 58%S last week at €151/ton.
The weather is very drying now with an easterly wind and 18*. If the Sulphur isn't washed in, would it be ok to graze with milking cows?

I'd have major concerns going with that level of s on grazing ground .embryo loss ,and locking up vital trace elements and minerals line copper etc .a little and offer approach with s here in late spring early summer with a max of 25 units out before June

Milked out

Dawggone wrote: »

I'm going with 40units/acre of Sulphur across all cereals and grazing/silage ground next week.
I bought a few ton of 24%N + 58%S last week at €151/ton.
The weather is very drying now with an easterly wind and 18*. If the Sulphur isn't washed in, would it be ok to graze with milking cows?

I'd agree with mj, only go with ferts with 5 or 7 % s here on grazing ground and would use asn which is 15% s on silage ground only.

Dawggone

mahoney_j wrote: »

I'd have major concerns going with that level of s on grazing ground .embryo loss ,and locking up vital trace elements and minerals line copper etc .a little and offer approach with s here in late spring early summer with a max of 25 units out before June

Little and often is not going to happen Mahoney. It's going to get it all in one go. Should I cut it back to 25units?

orm0nd

mahoney_j wrote: »

Going with second round of fertliser late next week .2.5 of 18 6 12 everywhere .was thinking of using the 18s with 5% sulphur .opinions please is it too early for s ???.id normally start sulphur application on round 3 in April

we went with 27.2.5.5.+S yesterday , had a couple of pallets left over since last year,

'twas after spreading I thought was it too early?, hadn't much choice yesterday anyhow, was all we had.

got a flier from Liffeys about some new fert, claiming to cut down N losses, didn't really read it , still in jeep

mahoney_j

Dawggone wrote: »

Little and often is not going to happen Mahoney. It's going to get it all in one go. Should I cut it back to 25units?

If twas me that's what I'd do ,58% s in one go with cows grazing could lead to a lot of issues I think

Dawggone

First round grazing to be finished by Paddys day.
First real spring day today with 18degrees.

Brown Podzol

Dawggone wrote: »

First round grazing to be finished by Paddys day.
First real spring day today with 18degrees.

Cows looking well there Dwag, is that a Limo bull in the middle of them. You'll be busy for Christmas.

Dawggone

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Cows looking well there Dwag, is that a Limo bull in the middle of them. You'll be busy for Christmas.

Yes. Calve cows for 10months.

pedigree 6

Dawggone wrote: »

First round grazing to be finished by Paddys day.
First real spring day today with 18degrees.

No wonder you're giving out about dirty cows.
You're cows are spotless. Credit to ya.:)

jack o shea

The east wind you are very welcome, the only thing that will dry out heavy ground.

johnny122

Lads. Is it too dry for urea do he think?

RightTurnClyde

johnny122 wrote: »

Lads. Is it too dry for urea do he think?

Funny fcuker