Its something wrong if i am to servile to females?

Cold War Kid

All I know is, it's handy that chore rhymes with whore.

You're a chore whore OP.

DeadHand

Moontitan wrote: »

What does that prove exactly?

... He managed to maintain a romantic relationship with a woman for ten years even with the added pressure of a child.

He was a little harsh on you but it does qualify him to speak with authority on this subject.

Colser

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

With your knob hanging out.
They love that.

Only if its big..I hate small mugs personally...

mikom

Moontitan wrote: »

It doesn't qualify him to advise the OP on what makes a man sexy.

I never did.
I would not presume I am an expert on what makes a man sexy.
What are your qualifications, Moontitan?

Moontitan wrote: »

The OP needs to learn how to be sexy. Acting as though you are the prize is a good start,

Shur all the best blogs talk about it...

http://www.girlschase.com/content/%E2%80%9Ci-am-prize%E2%80%9D-how-really-get-mindset-women

crisdublin6

women likes men who are polite and kind to them?or they likes machos?

mikom

crisdublin6 wrote: »

women likes men who are polite and kind to them?or they likes machos?

Women like blonde men or dark haired men?

Women like steady men or easy going men men?

Women like sporty men or more indoors men?

Women like men that are into metal or men that like EDM?

Different men like different things........ Different women like different things.

If you follow certain advice in this thread, then I must ask you a serious question.
Do you want to act a part to attract a certain sort of woman, and if you win that "prize", can you keep up the act?

Gongoozler

crisdublin6 wrote: »

women likes men who are polite and kind to them?or they likes machos?

Assuming by macho you mean masculine, women like both.

Mesrine65

OneOfThem wrote: »

And women don't want to ride guys they think are beneath them.

Cowgirl?

OneOfThem

crisdublin6 wrote: »

women likes men who are polite and kind to them?or they likes machos?

Women like masculine men who view them and treat them as equals.

You appear to treat women as if they are your betters. Be kind, be polite, be nice, but don't be subservient.

crisdublin6

OneOfThem wrote: »

Women like masculine men who view them and treat them as equals.

if you think so....

Dial Hard

Newsflash, guys, there is no definitive "Women like". We're not a hive mind.

JacquesSon

I feel for the OP.

Western men have had their hardwired male superiority and chauvinism drilled out of them by the time they hit puberty. It's great that we respect women and don't behave like feral beasts around them but there's always going to be some collateral damage in the evolutionary chain.

Watch some Chuck Norris movies and you'll be right OP.

OneOfThem

Dial Hard wrote: »

Newsflash, guys, there is no definitive "Women like". We're not a hive mind.

Bollox(ish).

Walking up to women you find attractive, defecating in your hand, rubbing it into your hair, telling them you think they are ugly, and screaming that the banks are stealing your thoughts, is not likely to be a successful way to get a girlfriend.

Not a true statement because newsflash, women are not a hive mind.

Medusa22

Generally speaking, I think that most people (male or female) find it difficult to respect someone who is subservient to them. There is a difference between being polite and kind and being a doormat, I think you are probably the latter OP, and it does seem to be some kind of attempt to endear yourself to women, as you don't treat men in the same way. Men don't need to act like macho asshole d1ckheads to attract women, nor do they need to be doormats, there is a lot of in between, it isn't one or the other. Though I'm sure there are people out there who enjoy having someone pander to them so the OP could always find someone like that.

Cold War Kid

crisdublin6 wrote: »

if you think so....

Nothing wrong with what they're saying. Nobody respects a pushover. Offering to clean up someone else's broken glass is being that. But helping them to clean it up is being kind. You need to.strike a balance between being kind and being a pushover.

DeadHand

OneOfThem wrote: »

Bollox(ish).

Walking up to women you find attractive, defecating in your hand, rubbing it into your hair, telling them you think they are ugly, and screaming that the banks are stealing your thoughts, is not likely to be a successful way to get a girlfriend.

Not a true statement because newsflash, women are not a hive mind.

That's an extreme, fantastical example.

Her point still stands that "sexy" is highly subjective. Now, there are a few things that are almost universally attractive (confidence, kindness) but what people find attractive or unattractive is as varied as the people themselves.

Since every individual is different, there is no definitive formula. There are no reliable rules beyond "be yourself".

Day Lewin

Taking an anthropology view of this: It's incredibly common.

The streets of the internet are paved with submissive men who want a Mistress. Many of the available "mistresses" are commercial...but submissive men make great husbands.

They can't all be Alpha Males -- and there are benefits to being Beta. Women often like you precisely because you are not too high-testosterone: you are good at bonding, listening, and co-operating. Less aggressive than the more Dominant types.

The word "servile" has unattractive associations...but it is possible to find much richness and happiness in this orientation.

Jake Rugby Walrus666

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au5XE48PEeU

Earthhorse

biko wrote: »

My opinion is that Carthage must be destroyed

What?

OneOfThem

DeadHand wrote: »

That's an extreme, fantastical example.

Her point still stands that "sexy" is highly subjective. Now, there are a few things that are almost universally attractive (confidence, kindness) but what people find attractive or unattractive is as varied as the people themselves.

Since every individual is different, there is no definitive formula. There are no reliable rules beyond "be yourself".

It needs to be fantastical to set up a starting point. Every person reading that, if they are honest, will agree it is true. Therefore it is possible to make accurate statements about whether or not "women like... " things. This is a fact. And it can't be disputed. All that's left to discuss is which things are true and which are not. There will be anomalies of course. There's 3.5 billion women in the world. I'd be reasonably sure there is at least one woman that would respond positively to the guy that does that. That doesn't mean it's inaccurate or unuseful to advise men not to do it because "uggh *sigh* women aren't a hive mind you know".

There's a reason psychology can exist, and make accurate predictions about human behaviour.

DeadHand

katemarch wrote: »

The word "servile" has unattractive associations...but it is possible to find much richness and happiness in this orientation.

You're a absolutely right in what you say, I'd like to add that submissive does not equal servile. A person can be strong and assertive in their everyday, public life while being submissive in their relationship.

The same generalities hold for dominant women too in that most will find confidence deeply attractive In A potential mate. I doubt many dominant women would be impressed by the behaviour detailed by the OP ie. being desperate to ingratiate himself to every woman of child bearing age he encounters and willing to degrade himself to do so.

Autonomous Cowherd

Be yourself, OP.
Who are you? Find out. How do you want to feel / think / act in any given situation and why?
Are you being kind with ulterior motive? Or are you naturally kind and return then without expectations to what you were doing before?
Are you a people pleaser? Why? Do you want to please everyone? Are you afraid? Do you have low self-esteem? If so, why? Do you know what YOU like/love/long for/ do you know what gives meaning to you?

Be the most dignified you, the most strong and noble you, the authentic you..and if this naturally includes racing to help ladies with no expectation of reward other than the enjoyment you get and they get from simple kindness, then go ahead.

But look deeply into your motives. We are often the last ones to see what others can see clearly about us.

crisdublin6

katemarch wrote: »

Taking an anthropology view of this: It's incredibly common.

The streets of the internet are paved with submissive men who want a Mistress. Many of the available "mistresses" are commercial...but submissive men make great husbands.

They can't all be Alpha Males -- and there are benefits to being Beta. Women often like you precisely because you are not too high-testosterone: you are good at bonding, listening, and co-operating. Less aggressive than the more Dominant types.

The word "servile" has unattractive associations...but it is possible to find much richness and happiness in this orientation.

im not like masochist who looking for misstress!!!im just kind and polite maybe too....but better be like me then male who treat badly women etc

crisdublin6

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

Be yourself, OP.
Who are you? Find out. How do you want to feel / think / act in any given situation and why?
Are you being kind with ulterior motive? Or are you naturally kind and return then without expectations to what you were doing before?
Are you a people pleaser? Why? Do you want to please everyone? Are you afraid? Do you have low self-esteem? If so, why? Do you know what YOU like/love/long for/ do you know what gives meaning to you?

Be the most dignified you, the most strong and noble you, the authentic you..and if this naturally includes racing to help ladies with no expectation of reward other than the enjoyment you get and they get from simple kindness, then go ahead.

But look deeply into your motives. We are often the last ones to see what others can see clearly about us.

im "yourself"

crisdublin6

Medusa22 wrote: »

Generally speaking, I think that most people (male or female) find it difficult to respect someone who is subservient to them. There is a difference between being polite and kind and being a doormat, I think you are probably the latter OP, and it does seem to be some kind of attempt to endear yourself to women, as you don't treat men in the same way. Men don't need to act like macho asshole d1ckheads to attract women, nor do they need to be doormats, there is a lot of in between, it isn't one or the other. Though I'm sure there are people out there who enjoy having someone pander to them so the OP could always find someone like that.

question is if woman have 2 choices ....asshole,dickhead,cheater,female boxer,etc....or....polite,kind, even doormat,servile ...what she would choose??

Autonomous Cowherd

crisdublin6 wrote: »

question is if woman have 2 choices ....asshole,dickhead,cheater,female boxer,etc....or....polite,kind, even doormat,servile ...what she would choose??

We don't have just 2 choices though. We don't generally fall in love with cliched caricatures. Life and people are complex.

Medusa22

crisdublin6 wrote: »

question is if woman have 2 choices ....asshole,dickhead,cheater,female boxer,etc....or....polite,kind, even doormat,servile ...what she would choose??

It depends on the woman, of course.

Dial Hard

crisdublin6 wrote:

question is if woman have 2 choices ....asshole,dickhead,cheater,female boxer,etc....or....polite,kind, even doormat,servile ...what she would choose??

I think you're missing the point, which is that there's a huuuuuuuge middle ground between these two extremes.

crisdublin6

Medusa22 wrote: »

It depends on the woman, of course.

you right,if we would do the poll,results would be shocked....

crisdublin6

Dial Hard wrote: »

I think you're missing the point, which is that there's a huuuuuuuge middle ground between these two extremes.

i didnt mind that woman has only!! 2 choices....they are moreeee....but question was if they would has only 2 choices.....