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Irish anti-Islamic group protests mosque in Kerry

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    #332
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    RichardCeann wrote: »
    One quarter of all kids born here are to non Irish mams. This is facts.

    Though we have both established that those kids are still Irish so long as they have:
    1. British or Irish parents.
    2. Parents allowed to live in the ROI or Northern Ireland.
    3. Parents here as refugees.
    4. Parents who have lived here legally for 3 or more of the 4 years prior to the child's birth.


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    #333
    Sonderkommando
    Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭Sonderkommando


    Nodin wrote: »
    .......that one passed so far over my head I think its actually about to enter orbit....

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colm_Cooper


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    #334
    ScumLord
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    Muckracker wrote: »
    I don't get why gays and feminists love Islam so much. You guys are going to be the first to be beheaded when they take over!
    I don't think people are defending Islam, as an atheist/humanist one religion is as bad as the next. All muslims are no more crazy than all Christians. If Christians get to have their temple then I don't see why the Muslims shouldn't get there's. I don't for one second think it's going to turn Ireland into a Muslim country, we can barely do Catholicism well.

    Judging Muslims on the actions of a small minority is the same as judging all Christians on the westboro baptist church.


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    #335
    RichardCeann
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 647 ✭✭✭RichardCeann


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Though we have both established that those kids are still Irish so long as they have:
    1. British or Irish parents.
    2. Parents allowed to live in the ROI or Northern Ireland.
    3. Parents here as refugees.
    4. Parents who have lived here legally for 3 or more of the 4 years prior to the child's birth.

    I'm well aware of the 27th, Bill. I think it's wrong and will cause us unnecessary issues. What's your take?


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    #336
    Billy86
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    RichardCeann wrote: »
    I'm well aware of the 27th, Bill. I think it's wrong and will cause us unnecessary issues. What's your take?

    I think it's pretty restrictive in terms of granting citizenship, but it's not the worst thing in the world, and it was passed overwhelmingly so I guess it speaks for the Irish public without much doubt. What kind of unnecessary issues would concern you most, though?


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    #337
    darkpagandeath
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    RichardCeann wrote: »
    I'm well aware of the 27th, Bill. I think it's wrong and will cause us unnecessary issues. What's your take?

    Like ?


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    #338
    Billy86
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    Muckracker wrote: »
    I don't get why gays and feminists love Islam so much. You guys are going to be the first to be beheaded when they take over!

    Yeah, otherwise those groups need to get entirely behind the Catholic Church in the imminent war on Islam, if for no other reason, at least to ensure they are not mistreated or neglected.


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    #339
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Yeah, otherwise those groups need to get entirely behind the Catholic Church in the imminent war on Islam, if for no other reason, at least to ensure they are not mistreated or neglected.

    Or be strongly atheist against all religions including, and maybe especially, Islam.

    As someone born into an atheist family, themselves born into a despised atheist communist family in darkest de velera's Ireland I find the liberal bourgeois excuses for Islam both apalling and humerous.

    A quick search for "LGBT rights" in Google will tell you that it's not Christian ( or nominally Christian ) states that are the problem. In fact it's only Christian ( really post Christian) states* where gay marriage is available as far as I can see. Not hindu, Shinto, or Confucian States -- not that they are hostile to homosexuality but gay marriage isn't legal. Islamic countries make homosexuality illegal in a range from a short time in prison to the death penalty. Gay marriage is eons away if ever.


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory

    * and the Zionist entity as we say in far left circles.


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    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,989 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    conorhal wrote: »
    If you can't afford that you really need to be shown the door. A friend of mine returned from Austraila two years ago because he couldn't afford to pay for schooling for his three kids in Sidney where they expect migrants to pay their own way. There has to be some basic critera for granting residency and an ability to support youself and not constitute a net loss to the economy should be one.
    when our own don't cause a net loss to the economy apart from disabled and elderly then we will talk

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #341
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,989 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    RichardCeann wrote: »
    Believe it or not I actually voted against the amendment. You're born here, you grow up here, you're damn straight that you deserve citizenship. Not this €950 so you can attend a condescending party craic. "Our history is now yours" - thanks Frances.

    A lot of kids born here will grow up very disenfranchised. But there we go.
    i agree, all though the case of that child stolen from its italian mother a while back does make me wonder should i consider changing my mind and seeing some good from such a rule

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #342
    end of the road
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    Muckracker wrote: »
    I don't get why gays and feminists love Islam so much. You guys are going to be the first to be beheaded when they take over!
    well as they won't be taking over, i'd imagine the gays and feminists have nothing to worry about

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,989 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    It's SJW nonsence in it's purest form, They cannot see the disconnect. They seem to think Moving to the west Is a cure for ones murderous blood lust towards infidels. Moderate Muslims are fine, I'm talking ISIS for example.

    sjw. another mythical nonsense term

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    darkpagandeath
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    end of the road wrote: »
    sjw. another mythical nonsense term

    It's a real term. It relates to our perma offended on others behalf brigade.


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    RichardCeann
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 647 ✭✭✭RichardCeann


    end of the road wrote: »
    i agree, all though the case of that child stolen from its italian mother a while back does make me wonder should i consider changing my mind and seeing some good from such a rule

    What?


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    #346
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,989 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    It's a real term. It relates to our perma offended on others behalf brigade.
    its not a real term. these "brigades" don't exist

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #347
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,989 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    RichardCeann wrote: »
    What?
    there is a thread on it i'l try find it later on if i can.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #348
    Herb Powell
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    I for one welcome our new foreign overlords.


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    #349
    Hans Bricks
    Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    end of the road wrote: »
    sjw. another mythical nonsense term

    How many times are you gonna repeat this brain dead response when opportunity presents itself ?? Everyone else seems to be aware of its meaning bar you of course.


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    #350
    Herb Powell
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    Hans Bricks wrote: »
    How many times are you gonna repeat this brain dead response when opportunity presents itself ?? Everyone else seems to be aware of its meaning bar you of course.

    He's not wrong, tbf. It's like "hipster", in that people seem to use it to mean "someone I don't like".


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    Hans Bricks
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    Herb Powell wrote: »
    He's not wrong, tbf. It's like "hipster", in that people seem to use it to mean "someone I don't like".

    But i've seen him repeat this same line about a hundred times when someone dares mention the term politically correct. An actual term used in numerous debates and it thinks it's coming across as intelligent by claiming "pc doesn't exist". Bizarre. Infantile and downright embarrassing.


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    #352
    Herb Powell
    Registered Users Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Hans Bricks wrote: »
    But i've seen him repeat this same line about a hundred times when someone dares mention the term politically correct. An actual term used in numerous debates and it thinks it's coming across as intelligent by claiming "pc doesn't exist". Bizarre. Infantile and downright embarrassing.

    Political correctness is very real, and in 90% of cases complete bolloccks, I'll grant you that, but again, it's a term that few people seem to know the actual meaning of, and just fire out when things aren't going their way.


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    #353
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,989 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Hans Bricks wrote: »
    How many times are you gonna repeat this brain dead response when opportunity presents itself ??

    as many times as it takes until the people get the message that these groups/terms don't exist.
    Hans Bricks wrote: »
    Everyone else seems to be aware of its meaning bar you of course.

    i know what it means. its a simple buzz term used as part of little victim rants. usually to be derogatory toards those who cannot and will not be bullied into conforming with bigoted, racist, or other backward views.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #354
    Hans Bricks
    Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    end of the road wrote: »
    as many times as it takes until the people get the message that these groups/terms don't exist.

    When are you going to get the message that if a term is used so widespread, that it obviously does exist ? and that claiming the opposite for the sake of being antagonistic and stubborn looks utterly, utterly moronic ?
    end of the road wrote: »
    I know what it means. its a simple buzz term used as part of little victim rants. usually to be derogatory toards those who cannot and will not be bullied into conforming with bigoted, racist, or other backward views.

    No way is it meant to be derogatory ?? Well done. Your default to accusations of bigotry and waycism just reinforces that sanctimonious caricature. Go on. Explain to us how "pc doesn't exist". Can't wait to hear this.


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    #355
    RichardCeann
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 647 ✭✭✭RichardCeann


    conorhal wrote: »
    We have a (horrendously lax) system to naturalse migrants, 30,000 this year, 60,000 last year.
    If you've been here for 18yrs and not bothered to apply then you are either not interested in becoming a citizen, lazy or you shouldn't be here.

    Not everyone has the means or access to €950 plus the application fees. I understand that it's a nice little earner for the state, but tbh, I don't think we should be charging "naturalisation fees". Charge an application fee so people don't just throw one in hoping for the best, but if you're successful, then welcome aboard.

    It should not be a way for the state to accumulate cash.


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    #356
    HoggyRS
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭HoggyRS


    When i went onto this crowds facebook page, I notice that Cllr Kieran McCarthy from Cork who was recently in the papers after being expelled from Sinn Féin has liked their page (i can see as hes my fbook friend). Strange page for any sensible politician to be following.


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    #357
    Nodin
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    Herb Powell wrote: »
    I for one welcome our new foreign overlords.

    Worry not, Kerry people don't feel the need to conquer us. The occasional burning and pillaging of Cork keeps them content.


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    RichardCeann
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 647 ✭✭✭RichardCeann


    HoggyRS wrote: »
    When i went onto this crowds facebook page, I notice that Cllr Kieran McCarthy from Cork who was recently in the papers after being expelled from Sinn Féin has liked their page (i can see as hes my fbook friend). Strange page for any sensible politician to be following.

    Might want to mention it to him.


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    #359
    RichardCeann
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 647 ✭✭✭RichardCeann


    Nodin wrote: »
    .......that one passed so far over my head I think its actually about to enter orbit....

    How you feel when you play! I mentioned Colm Cooper. What I meant was that if they settle down in Tralee and start acting the native, then peoples concerns will diminish.

    Love it or hate it, I think the GAA is the best thing we have for integrating newcomers. Very difficult to hate people when the lad on your team is from out foreign.


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    Ash.J.Williams
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    RichardCeann wrote: »
    One quarter of all kids born here are to non Irish mams. This is facts.

    Better than being born to imams wha


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    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    Better than being born to imams wha

    But once they're born outside Dublin, they'll all be a shower of mullahs anyway.


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