Parent and Child Spaces

Carlos Orange

Cienciano wrote: »

Insead of trying to justify arsehole behaviour, why not walk the extra 30 seconds and leave the P+C space for someone who might need them?

If its only 30 seconds why is it a big deal for you to walk it?

DuckHook

QuinDixie wrote: »

so you have no one to help you mind those kids, you never go anywhere without them. Thats very sad.
Word of advice, hope you have strong apron strings.

Even for after hours this post is pretty bad..put down the internet before you hurt yourself.

Drumpot

Ctrl Alt Delete wrote: »

I've an even crazier idea, how about you don't piss and moan about a parking space that im legally allowed to use

On this we agree. it's not illegal to be a dickhead...

QuinDixie

kunst nugget wrote: »

Because I bring them to shops and I don't buy them shít, they get no treats for going into the shop and if there's something they see that they want they know they'll have to save up their own pocket money, that they earn doing chores, to buy it. Obviously I make sure that it's approved by our corporate overlords though so that whatever they get maximizes the potential brainwashing they'll receive.

same question to you and every other poster who thinks they can justify bringing young children shopping.

What do they enjoy and what do they learn?
Only that mammy and daddy get a big parking spot beside the entrance and at Tesco Every Little Helps.

DuckHook

psinno wrote: »

If its only 30 seconds why is it a big deal for you to walk it?

Parent and child spaces are about the extra space to assist children being put in and out and less about the proximity to the front door, it's simple consideration for people that need it more than yourself.

kunst nugget

QuinDixie wrote: »

so you have no one to help you mind those kids, you never go anywhere without them. Thats very sad.
Word of advice, hope you have strong apron strings.

Haha, wow. How amazingly patronising.

Flippyfloppy

DuckHook wrote: »

Even for after hours this post is pretty bad..put down the internet before you hurt yourself.

Ah don't mind him. I was just using examples of situations plenty of parents can be in. I'm starting to think I'm arguing with a 17 year old boy stuck in for the summer.

Ctrl Alt Delete

DuckHook wrote: »

Parent and child spaces are about the extra space to assist children being put in and out and less about the proximity to the front door, it's simple consideration for people that need it more than yourself.

But what if I need space to put in my new TV ?

humanji

QuinDixie wrote: »

same question to you and every other poster who thinks they can justify bringing young children shopping.

What do they enjoy and what do they learn?
Only that mammy and daddy get a big parking spot beside the entrance and at Tesco Every Little Helps.

MOD: Stop trolling.

Drumpot

I'm guessing that the trolling force is powerful in this thread...

DuckHook

Ctrl Alt Delete wrote: »

But what if I need space to put in my new TV ?

Nobody cares about your Telly, park at the back of the car park and carry it and don't be lazy.

kunst nugget

QuinDixie wrote: »

same question to you and every other poster who thinks they can justify bringing young children shopping.

What do they enjoy and what do they learn?
Only that mammy and daddy get a big parking spot beside the entrance and at Tesco Every Little Helps.

They enjoy it because I teach the best ways to spit on fruit before putting it back and what way is best for distracting old ladies when you're stealing their purse.

Jesus, it's just a trip to do the shopping. We don't camp there for the weekend and we don't attend classes on obedient capitalism in the place. They learn that by their parents taking them to the shop that we don't think they are precious little flowers incapable of withstanding the horrors of walking on laminated floors and - gasp - seeing people buying things…

mfceiling

Loads of things kids can learn.

All the different fruits and veg from around the world gets them thinking about countries and where different foods are grown and why.

Look at the butchers counter and the way the meat is cut...why does a lot of meat come packed in plastic?

If we're making a recipe what foods do we need...what else would add to it or compliment it?

What is better value..4 kitchen rolls for €4 or 2 for €2.40?

Keep a rough running count of the cost...who's closest at the till?

Not all about feeding them sweets or leaving them at home.

Ctrl Alt Delete

DuckHook wrote: »

Nobody cares about your Telly, park at the back of the car park and carry it and don't be lazy.

But I care about my telly just as you do about your kids.

So why not have parent and child spaces down the back of the car park instead of the front or even better have em at the front and back so when I legally park in one at the front you can use the back ones

It's not any less dangerous in the back end of the car park unless your one of those parents who can't teach a child to hold your hand or simple traffic awareness

Riskymove

Riskymove wrote: »

it is never black and white

my local tescos has around 24 disabled parking spots.

There is rarely more than 1 or 2 occupied

If I am having a quick stop I see no issue. I wouldn't us it if there were limited spaces.

This is an absolute disgrace. Sick of this ignorant behaviour. Like for the love of god it's Tesco, not tescos. We need more awareness here. Disgusting carry on.

Ms2011

I've a 3 yr old & a 3 month old. For me space is the issue rather than the distance I've to walk to the door especially if I've to take our 3 door car as the doors are longer & I need to open them further to almost get into the backseat to get the kids out.
My solutions ( as the P&C space are never free ) is to park further away so I can find 2 normal spaces together & park in both, I get the room I need to get the kids & their stuff out & no one's car gets damaged.
Not ideal but such is life!!

Violet Sun

There are spaces for the Disabled are you going to give them a hard time too? Your TV doesn't not mean as much as their saftey, or any other human being. Children included. Having a full on blow about it though is a bit much for me though. Must have been a bad day for the parent.

I take my kids shopping must have used those spaces only a few times as they're usually occupied. But when using a pram it does make life easier & it's safer for my kids. As for why I take my kids shopping?

I need to get food like anyone else. Or other merchandise, again like anyone else. Why take your kids shopping? Why do you go shopping? What do you gain from it? Perhaps try internet shopping no parking required

LordSutch

Finn Vast Snot wrote: »

Just witnessed a big row outside Tesco between a woman with two young children and an elderly woman, because the elderly woman took the last P&C space. I was a bit gobsmacked as I didn't think people took those spaces that seriously. I've parked in them myself once or twice when the car park was full, or if I'm shopping late in the evening and they're mostly empty.

Just wondering how seriously posters on here take them?

Parent & Child spaces are just that "Parent & Child spaces" and I say tough luck on those who abuse the spaces and park there without young children/babies. Generally these spaces are wider than the norm and are close to the shop door for good reason . . . .

I have had one or two bust ups with people over a P&C space that I was aiming for only to be taken by a normal driver without kids! On both boccassions the drivers bluffed their way out of trouble by claiming that they were either waiting for children to appear from the shop (lift home) or, in the other instance the woman claimed that she had a bad heart & was just recovering from hip surgery - fair enough I guess, so I wouldn't argue.

Ctrl Alt Delete

Violet Sun wrote: »

There are spaces for the Disabled are you going to give them a hard time too?

I'd give anyone parking in disabled spaces without a permit a hard time because doing so is against the law. While P+C spaces are nothing other than a normal parking space with a picture of a pram on it

LordSutch wrote: »

I have had one or two bust ups with people over a P&C space that I was aiming for only to be taken by a normal driver without kids! On both boccassions the drivers bluffed their way out of trouble by claiming that they were either waiting for children to appear from the shop (lift home) or, in the other instance the woman claimed that she had a bad heart & was just recovering from hip surgery - fair enough I guess, so I wouldn't argue.

On both occasions you were actually in the wrong and not the people parking there. they didn't need to justify parking in those spaces as they were legally perfectly entitled to do so

Jimoslimos

LordSutch wrote: »

Parent & Child spaces are just that "Parent & Child spaces" and I say tough luck on those who abuse the spaces and park there without young children/babies. Generally these spaces are wider than the norm and are close to the shop door for good reason . . . .

Don't be ridiculous, Children can't and aren't allowed to drive. Why would they need parking spaces?

Seriously though, in my experience the closer in proximity you are to the entrance of a shopping centre the more traffic there will be. If you want safety and space for your kids then park as far away as possible in a far corner of the car park. Inconvenience though seems to trump any other argument.

JupiterKid

I always respect disabled spaces - they are there by law.

Parent & child spaces are just a commercial courtesy and are pretty recent. How on earth did parents of young children manage to park at supermarkets and shopping centres before the P&C spaces were created?

Samaris

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous, Children can't and aren't allowed to drive. Why would they need parking spaces?

Seriously though, in my experience the closer in proximity you are to the entrance of a shopping centre the more traffic there will be. If you want safety and space for your kids then park as far away as possible in a far corner of the car park. Inconvenience though seems to trump any other argument.

Er, short of teleporting , the kids are still going to have to cross the busy area. The point of having them usually on the shop-side of the carpark road is so they don't have to cross the main artery.

I'm undecided myself about them, although I wouldn't use them if I didn't have kids either under a certain age or otherwise difficult. But not much point sticking them out in the middle of nowhere. Men, not illegal to park in them otherwise, but it is selfish and discourteous.

Galwayguy35

LordSutch wrote: »

Parent & Child spaces are just that "Parent & Child spaces" and I say tough luck on those who abuse the spaces and park there without young children/babies. Generally these spaces are wider than the norm and are close to the shop door for good reason . . . .

I have had one or two bust ups with people over a P&C space that I was aiming for only to be taken by a normal driver without kids! On both boccassions the drivers bluffed their way out of trouble by claiming that they were either waiting for children to appear from the shop (lift home) or, in the other instance the woman claimed that she had a bad heart & was just recovering from hip surgery - fair enough I guess, so I wouldn't argue.

They had no need to bluff any answer to you, some fella like you stuck his head out the window of his car mouthing at me one day about where I was parked and he was quickly told where to stick his opinion on the matter.

Samaris

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

They had no need to bluff any answer to you, some fella like you stuck his head out the window of his car mouthing at me one day about where I was parked and he was quickly told where to stick his opinion on the matter.

Just out of curiosity, given you apparently park in P&C places because they're convenient and its only courtesy rather than a legal thing...would you park in disabled spaces if they were courtesy rather than enforced?

Galwayguy35

Samaris wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, given you apparently park in P&C places because they're convenient and its only courtesy rather than a legal thing...would you park in disabled spaces if they were courtesy rather than enforced?

No.

And in the daytime I don't park in the P&C places either but this was evening time and all the places were empty.

But some busybody sticking his nose in something that was nothing to do with him really ticked me off.

steddyeddy

You really can't compare mother and child spaces to disabled spaces. I know shopping with children isn't easy but I'm sure it doesn't compare to the problems being disabled present.

I don't get the animus towards parent and child spaces. It's only a minor courtesy extended to those who find them much more convenient than the average able bodied person with no kids in tow. I can't understand why it's so important to park in them rather than walk an extra 60 seconds, max. They make all the difference to the parents, so why be selfish?

They're wider, so getting car seats in and out is less likely to cause a door to bang against another car, and they're closer to the door so that small children are less likely to scoot around a car park and get hurt, or maybe a new baby soaked in rain before getting inside. They have room for getting kids out of trollies, or opening the door to the max to maneuver them into their car seats or seat belts.

How anyone can take exception to any of that, or be so self centred that they make a point of claiming one for themselves, is a mystery to me. It's just so entitled and selfish and it's hard to believe grown adults begrudge such a small favour being done for people with kids.

No, I've no kids.

Cold War Kid

People can still park in them without having children in tow - it's not an offence to park in them like it is to park in a disabled person's parking space.

I don't know why a person would bother, just to make a point (unless they really have to, due to a lack of other spaces) but they can.

LordSutch

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

They had no need to bluff any answer to you, some fella like you stuck his head out the window of his car mouthing at me one day about where I was parked and he was quickly told where to stick his opinion on the matter.

Not really my style to stick my head out the window and mouth off . . . .

...but if I arrive at Tesco/Aldi/Lidl with the kids and buggies (unstrapping car seats etc) and some fella in a suped up Micra just drives in ahead of us and takes the last Parent & Child space . . .

then yes, I will make a comment to him to find out why he has taken a space (designed for parents with children)!


You obviously haven't had babies yet Galwayguy, as you would know exactly what we're all talking about.

Cold War Kid

Cold War Kid wrote: »

People can still park in them without having children in tow - it's not an offence to park in them like it is to park in a disabled person's parking space.

I don't know why a person would bother, just to make a point (unless they really have to, due to a lack of other spaces) but they can.

It's like a spite thing for some. A tiny little favour that isn't directed at them, and they make a point of ruining it for someone it was meant for. It's just so petty, I don't understand it.