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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,769 Mod ✭✭✭✭nuac


    Westport house is to be put on the market by NAMA according to the Mayo News. would this ultimately be a good or a bad thing? probably not good with the 'Vulture' capitalists involved

    Recent news does not inspire confidence in the NAMA sale process.

    A unique estate such as WH should not be bundled up with all the shopping centres etc so that only a buyer with billions can bid.

    If it has to be sold, imho it should be sold on it's own. That would give a better chance of a purchaser who might carry on the development and promotion done by the late Jeremy Altamount and his family over the last 50 years


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Xenji wrote: »
    It is meant to be a tax issue from what was mentioned, but you're right about the dearth, if the Caddens end up leaving for Westport as strongly rumoured, the town will take yet another hit.

    Re: Bar one. The Caddens have completely denied that they are moving and said they have no idea how the rumour started. People had started calling up querying their Christmas party bookings etc so they had to reassure that it was not the case.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Re: Bar one. The Caddens have completely denied that they are moving and said they have no idea how the rumour started. People had started calling up querying their Christmas party bookings etc so they had to reassure that it was not the case.

    That's great to hear, they probably do the best business in town and they have a great wine and craft beer selection and of course lovely food.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Looks like an unlucky start for Connacht distillery in Ballina. Was broken into last night. Unsure of damage or if anything stolen. Alarm was going good-o earlier with a security company trying to knock it off.

    Inda only opened it yesterday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    finisklin wrote: »
    Looks like an unlucky start for Connacht distillery in Ballina. Was broken into last night. Unsure of damage or if anything stolen. Alarm was going good-o earlier with a security company trying to knock it off.

    Inda only opened it yesterday.
    A lot of copper in those places id say


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  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Tomagotchye


    finisklin wrote: »
    Looks like an unlucky start for Connacht distillery in Ballina. Was broken into last night. Unsure of damage or if anything stolen. Alarm was going good-o earlier with a security company trying to knock it off.

    Inda only opened it yesterday.

    That's disgraceful. Honestly, you wouldn't bother after somthing like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Holland and Barrett are advertising for a managerial position in Castlebar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Xenji wrote: »
    Holland and Barrett are advertising for a managerial position in Castlebar.

    Very good. where did you see that. Know someone who may be interested


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Very good. where did you see that. Know someone who may be interested

    Not sure when or where they are opening though.

    http://ie.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=6138348141275df1&from=serp


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,769 Mod ✭✭✭✭nuac


    nuac wrote: »
    Recent news does not inspire confidence in the NAMA sale process.

    A unique estate such as WH should not be bundled up with all the shopping centres etc so that only a buyer with billions can bid.

    If it has to be sold, imho it should be sold on it's own. That would give a better chance of a purchaser who might carry on the development and promotion done by the late Jeremy Altamount and his family over the last 50 years

    Public meeting called in Westport to discuss this issue.

    At 7.30 p.m. Tuesday 20th Oct next Town Hall Westport

    All welcome


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,375 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    I see rumours of the council being pushed to buy it. I don't see they would be able to afford it.

    Apparently the govt can request nama not to sell a loan if the govt are willing to buy it.

    Mr Ring must sweating now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Lissavane


    Westport House should be bought / retained by the State as a Historic Property and presented to the public in a similar manner to Farmleigh, Castletown, Rathfarnham Castle etc.. Those are managed by OPW which is part of Minister of State, Simon Harris's (FG) portfolio.

    http://www.castletown.ie/
    http://www.farmleigh.ie/
    http://www.heritageireland.ie/en/south-west/ionadanbhlascaoidmhoir-theblasketcentre/
    http://www.heritageireland.ie/en/south-west/derrynanehouse/

    Better than letting it go at a ludicrously cheap knock-down price to some vulture fund.

    The Taoiseach has few enough achievements to show for his native county during his period in government. The acquisition of Westport House for the State would be a testemony to him and wouldn't do Ring or FG in general any harm in Mayo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Perhaps a well heeled, rich altruistic couple a la Lissadell may buy it? Keep it in Irish hands and hopefully avoid any confrontations with MCC over rights of way.

    Now how many well heeled people are knocking around after the recession? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,375 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    finisklin wrote: »
    Perhaps a well heeled, rich altruistic couple a la Lissadell may buy it? Keep it in Irish hands and hopefully avoid any confrontations with MCC over rights of way.

    Now how many well heeled people are knocking around after the recession? :rolleyes:

    i am correct saying the house cant be sold.

    its the rather juicy patch of land that the loan is attached too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    irishgeo wrote: »
    i am correct saying the house cant be sold.

    its the rather juicy patch of land that the loan is attached too.

    Cunning plan no more......


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    Any update on the meeting re Westport house? Is there a plan to save it? Who spoke at meeting and many at it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    finisklin wrote: »
    Any update on the meeting re Westport house? Is there a plan to save it? Who spoke at meeting and many at it?

    It seems that Westport House has been removed from the Portfolio of loans for sale. according to the Mayo News. Buys some time at least.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,375 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    It seems that Westport House has been removed from the Portfolio of loans for sale. according to the Mayo News. Buys some time at least.

    Might be of use for social housing all that land.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hopefully the land is not touched and its turned into something like Muckross house or Lough Key. There is not enough mature deciduous forests locally.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Hopefully the land is not touched and its turned into something like Muckross house or Lough Key. There is not enough mature deciduous forests locally.

    Hopefully. The Independent have the story as front page headline today,


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Here is a list of IDA site visits per county for the last 6 months

    http://www.thejournal.ie/county-breakdown-site-visits-potential-investors-2415869-Nov2015/

    There was only 6 counties in the whole country that had less IDA visits than Mayo. Mayo has a very sizeable population, a collage campus its own Gas and Electric supply the landing point for the fastest transatlantic network connection anywhere and a reasonably internationally connected airport, yet 2 visits is all they could muster.

    Waterford with a population of 40 thousand less than Mayo had 19 visits v Mayo's 2. All of Connacht had less than Limerick and Clare where you can see Michael Noonans influence again and again.

    This is a shocking reflection on the Taoiseach and the minister on their disregard for their own constituency. As somebody who mistakenly voted for Enda Kenny in the last election it would be an embarrassment if he is re-elected. He has completely let down his own constituency and community his brother by association should also be on the chopping block.

    It also has to reflect very badly on the Mayo enterprise board what exactly are they been paid to do......

    How can we expect new jobs in Mayo if we are not even on the list to be considered. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,375 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Here is a list of IDA site visits per county for the last 6 months

    http://www.thejournal.ie/county-breakdown-site-visits-potential-investors-2415869-Nov2015/

    There was only 6 counties in the whole country that had less IDA visits than Mayo. Mayo has a very sizeable population, a collage campus its own Gas and Electric supply the landing point for the fastest transatlantic network connection anywhere and a reasonably internationally connected airport, yet 2 visits is all they could muster.

    Waterford with a population of 40 thousand less than Mayo had 19 visits v Mayo's 2. All of Connacht had less than Limerick and Clare where you can see Michael Noonans influence again and again.

    This is a shocking reflection on the Taoiseach and the minister on their disregard for their own constituency. As somebody who mistakenly voted for Enda Kenny in the last election it would be an embarrassment if he is re-elected. He has completely let down his own constituency and community his brother by association should also be on the chopping block.

    It also has to reflect very badly on the Mayo enterprise board what exactly are they been paid to do......

    How can we expect new jobs in Mayo if we are not even on the list to be considered. :(

    You can't show businesses to places that don't exist. No office space in mayo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Tomagotchye


    To be fair, mayo needs to start generating their own business. Some sort of food product is most likely. There are no start ups. Everyone sits around crying that no big business comes in but nobody thinks to start something themselves.

    In Cork they are all about this local crafting/crap and it's ticking along impressively. Decent amount of jobs in it. Mayo never has a feeling of self pride really.

    Small businesses employ more


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,769 Mod ✭✭✭✭nuac


    Above post is too negative regarding Mayo and Mayo people

    Often it is politicians and would-be politicians who complain. Many small business people just get on with it.

    There are many cases in Mayo of small firms starting up and creating jobs

    E.g Kellys in Newport becoming a national brand in blackpudding

    Artisan cheesemakers in Carraholly and elsewhere

    Local people along the Westport - Achill Greenway have responded to the influx of visitors there by opening cafés etc serving the route

    McHales started in farm machinery in Kilmaine about 40 years ago. Now a big enterprise

    Tom Murphy Castlebar started Pamex ( total shaving solutions etc ) about 20 years ago. Started by importing it from US, now being made in Mayo

    A man called Noone in Belmullet has developed innovative systems of controlling public lighting, and has developed export markets for it.

    There are several firms exporting shellfish and other fish based products

    Allergan started in a small way in Westport in 1975, about 25 workers making what the Californian founders called "aqueous eye solutions" When this was translated into English as eye-drops there was a feeling around the county that it had not great potential. It grew from strength to strength, now about a 1000 here make all the Botox for the world outside USA and Canada

    It's development was helped by the fact that Westport had a long established industrial tradition. The local authority and local community were used to working with industry

    One would expect a higher rate of start ups in Cork for all the obvious reasons, but Mayo people have not done too badly


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Quite a few micro breweries have popped up in recent times as well, along with a new distillery in Ballina.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Agreed, plenty in Mayo, can't expect someone in Cork to understand what goes on in Mayo business so probably an oversight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 D15 CO63


    New distillery (Nephin Distillery) under construction in Lahardane Co. Mayo investment of 6.5million Euro
    was in their shop in the village. Plans look good looking for qualified coppers currently.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Apparently TKMax will be moving into the Homebase building in Castlebar.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    I have heard the tk max rumour before. Where are you getting that info? Dealz in the other half is still going ahead I think.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Apparently TKMax will be moving into the Homebase building in Castlebar.:)

    That rumour has been on the go for about two years now, apparently that Facebook page that swore it was coming to town actually did a lot of harm for any potential chances.


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