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Tour de France 2015 Stage 4 Seriang - Cambrai (cobbles) *contains unmasked spoilers*

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    #212
    ThisRegard
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    check_six wrote: »
    Huh? I thought Tony Martin is going into yellow now?

    Or am I just having a whoosh moment here?

    I know my understanding of betting is pretty bad, but I too was wondering how he could have won.


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    #213
    crosstownk
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    check_six wrote: »
    Huh? I thought Tony Martin is going into yellow now?

    Or am I just having a whoosh moment here?


    Tony Martin is in yellow alright.

    http://www.letour.com/le-tour/2015/us/stage-4/classifications.html
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    #214
    Talib Fiasco
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    Alexander Kristoff
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    #215
    GetWithIt
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    check_six wrote: »
    Huh? I thought Tony Martin is going into yellow now?

    Or am I just having a whoosh moment here?
    Value for money implies the bet didn't win but, well, you got your money's worth.


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    #216
    Pudsy33
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    Talib Fiasco wrote: »
    Thibaut Pinot should be going for it now too

    If he stops throwing tantrums :D


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    #217
    Talib Fiasco
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    Alexander Kristoff
    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    If he stops throwing tantrums :D

    Yeah it'll be interesting to see what attitude he brings to the rest of the tour now. He has lost interest in the past when GC chances have ended prematurely for him.


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    #218
    retalivity
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    Talansky must be the protected rider for Garmin now, prob with dan as a dom.
    May be allowed off the leash to attempt a few stage victories, doubt he'll be allowed to go for the polka dot jersey


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    #219
    Pudsy33
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    retalivity wrote: »
    Talansky must be the protected rider for Garmin now, prob with dan as a dom.
    May be allowed off the leash to attempt a few stage victories, doubt he'll be allowed to go for the polka dot jersey

    Can't imagine they'll keep him on a leash tbh, the way Garmin operate I reckon they'll value stage wins over an anonymous top 20. Fingers crossed they let him attack.


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    #220
    check_six
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    GetWithIt wrote: »
    Value for money implies the bet didn't win but, well, you got your money's worth.

    Hmm,... I see,... I think. You bet, but you didn't get any money back, right?

    I'm really out of my depth here!
    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I know my understanding of betting is pretty bad, but I too was wondering how he could have won.

    No trips to Vegas for us anytime soon I suppose!

    Or maybe our unconventional "try to put money on the thing that wins, and fun bedamned" system could work in our favour!


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    #221
    dastardly00
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    With 14km to go, Tony Martin and Sep Vanmarcke rejoined the lead group after their respective punctures.

    Vanmarcke finished 7'03" behind Martin.

    I'm presuming he had another mechanical. And also went for a pint in the nearest pub.


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    #222
    check_six
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    dastardly00 wrote: »
    With 14km to go, Tony Martin and Sep Vanmarcke rejoined the lead group after their respective punctures.

    Vanmarcke finished 7'03" behind Martin.

    I'm presuming he had another mechanical. And also went for a pint in the nearest pub.

    A pint-size pint, or one of those funny wee glasses with the big head of foam the continental types seem to favour?


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    #223
    Talib Fiasco
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    Alexander Kristoff
    According to Fleche, Contador rode the last 25k with a broken rear wheel.


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    #224
    letape
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    Alexander Kristoff
    check_six wrote: »
    A pint-size pint, or one of those funny wee glasses with the big head of foam the continental types seem to favour?

    Perhaps a Kronenberg 1664...










    (synonymous with early 90s channel 4 tour coverage)


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    #225
    Brian?
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    Andre Greipel
    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    If he stops throwing tantrums :D

    I can't get over his behaviour. He's an absolute disgrace. Take the team mates bike and get on with it. Big baby.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #226
    ThisRegard
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    Talib Fiasco wrote: »
    According to Fleche, Contador rode the last 25k with a broken rear wheel.

    Eurosport showed the wheel when it was up on the car.


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    #227
    MPFG
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    Zdenek Stybar
    I can't see Dan going for KOM jersey . He will have to support Talansky but there are also stages he can win like stage 8

    A stage or 2 would certainly be better than top 10 anyway.
    Look at last year , Majka was a sensation with 2 stage wins while I bet no one remembers who was number 6 to 10 on GC


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    #228
    eagle eye
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    Peter Sagan
    Absolutely delighted for Tony Martin who has become my favourite cyclist. The man just puts so much effort into being the best that he can be and he is so full of heart, it's just a pity he isn't a great climber because he'd win everything if he could.


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    #229
    Eamonnator
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    Brian? wrote: »
    I can't get over his behaviour. He's an absolute disgrace. Take the team mates bike and get on with it. Big baby.

    Yeah, thats exactly what Tony Martin did, and look where he finished.


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    #230
    SummerRebel
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    Brian? wrote: »
    I can't get over his behaviour. He's an absolute disgrace. Take the team mates bike and get on with it. Big baby.


    Why was he screaming at the mechanic at the side of the road??


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    Dr. Bre
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    delighted for Martin (Tony) sad for Martin ( Dan) ... Pinot had a meltdown ha! hope Dan targets stages and maybe KOM - he gets no luck! if it rained today there would have been carnage..


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    #232
    odyssey06
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    Zdenek Stybar
    Nico must be a relieved man... Operation Get-Froome-Over-The-Cobbles completed...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #233
    SummerRebel
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    SummerRebel wrote: »
    Why was he screaming at the mechanic at the side of the road??


    OK according to L'Equipe, his electronic gearing broke and he was stuck on a high chainring. He didn't want to get on his teammates bike (Mattieu Landagnous) because it was too big for him. His teamcar was 13 cars back and took time to get him a replacement bike.

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Thibaut-pinot-parle-de-nouveaux-objectifs-apres-l-etape-des-paves/572555


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    #234
    ThisRegard
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    He could have continued until it got closer?


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    #235
    MPFG
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    Zdenek Stybar
    Tony Martin took Trentin's bike and the differential immeasurements between these two riders was greater than the difference between Pinot and his teammate

    Also Degenkolb threw a strop after the finish line its seems

    All understandable I feel. . These guys are under so much pressure to win by team, fans & country


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    #236
    MPFG
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    Zdenek Stybar
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Nico must be a relieved man... Operation Get-Froome-Over-The-Cobbles completed...

    He did a great job today I must say. He came back after every pave section to go to the front to get Froome and Thomas on to the next section on the front. Must be knackered


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    #237
    dastardly00
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    MPFG wrote: »
    Tony Martin took Trentin's bike and the differential immeasurements between these two riders was greater than the difference between Pinot and his teammate

    Also Degenkolb threw a strop after the finish line its seems

    All understandable I feel. . These guys are under so much pressure to win by team, fans & country

    Tony Martin is 6'1" and Matteo Trentin is 5'10" so there must have been fcuk all difference in height between Pinot and his team mate then.


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    #238
    dastardly00
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    https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/618468495718809600


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    #239
    MPFG
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    Zdenek Stybar
    dastardly00 wrote: »
    Tony Martin is 6'1" and Matteo Trentin is 5'10" so there must have been fcuk all difference in height between Pinot and his team mate then.

    Jens Hagström ‏@jenscer 2h2 hours ago
    Interesting numbers of the day:
    Pinot= 180cm
    Ladagnous= 182cm

    Tony M = 185cm
    Trentin = 179cm


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    #240
    ThisRegard
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    Did T Martin keep his team mates bike to the finish? I never noticed him switching again but I was doing other stuff so may have missed it.


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    #241
    glack
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Did T Martin keep his team mates bike to the finish? I never noticed him switching again but I was doing other stuff so may have missed it.
    Yep he won on his team mates bike. Makes it even more impressive.


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