UFC 189 - McGregor v Mendes *READ MOD WARNING IN 1st POST*

El Guapo!

Ok so thanks to yet another train wreck of a thread, we've had to open a new one. I'm sure we all don't want to get bogged down in the same old rubbish again so I think we should set some ground rules before we go any further.

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Ok that's enough of the mod hat for one evening. Back to the event.....

JoeyJJ

Will Conor resist throwing kicks to ensure he is able to sidestep a takedown or sprawl?

Rory needs to improve his standup if he wants to win the belt, his striking looked laboured in some of his fights.

Ireland888

McGregor 3rd round TKO stoppage.

Will be put on his back early and his defensive guard will impress. Needs to watch the fake double leg to an uppercut that Mendes has really perfected. Especially since wrestling is the only area Mendes has an advantage so Conor will be looking to defend it and may be caught off guard- Aldo and Lamas were, but Aldo at least was able to stay in the fight.

scudzilla

Is it worth calling Paddy Power and asking them for odds on how many times ElGuapo has to close the thread and start a new one?

scudzilla

I reckon Conor takes it within 3 rds by TKO, the same will happen as all his other fights, Mendes will get hit, realise how hard Conor hits then spend the rest of his conscious time avoiding another punch

Mint Sauce

First time poster here, but can some please explain this interm title thing. Is this just the winner has a garanteed fight against Aldo when he recovers for the actual title. What if he gets injured again.

welchywelch

Relatively new to UFC, have watched it maybe 10 times before so I have never heard of Chad Mendes until last week. I see alot of people here saying how good a wrestler he is and basically write of his ability on his feet because of short reach. I've watched a few of his fights and I noticed very little wrestling, particulary in the 2nd Aldo fight, it was practically a kickboxing match. His uppercuts look very powerful and he seemed to kick alot which people say he doesn't do. I reckon if he shakes Connor at all he could actually KO him. Would I be stupid to put money on Mendes by TKO?

Edit: Can someone tell me the price for that as I can't find Mendes by Tko in the fight section on Paddys site.

califano

scudzilla wrote: »

Is it worth calling Paddy Power and asking them for odds on how many times ElGuapo has to close the thread and start a new one?

No. El Guapo has a history of being bought off;). Hes already on time and a half to moderate this till the 12th.:pac:

scudzilla

Mint Sauce wrote: »

First time poster here, but can some please explain this interm title thing. Is this just the winner has a garanteed fight against Aldo when he recovers for the actual title. What if he gets injured again.

Yep, the interim holder's next fight will be against the champion, in this case Aldo.
If Aldo gets 'injured' again then who knows, sure if it's Conor he will fight at 155 to keep himself busy

cloudatlas

I really really hope Conor wins I admire him so much but Chad Mendes may have had smaller numbers but he has fought quality Aldo twice, Clay Guida is an animal and Mendes worked him out. Mendes is an intelligent fighter he reads people and I'm afraid that Conor will miss kick as he is liable to do and Mendes will be in there like white on rice.

dave1982

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eCABYUBKOlI


Sorry can't embed on phone

Paully D

Fire up a public poll Guapo

Paully D

welchywelch wrote: »

Edit: Can someone tell me the price for that as I can't find Mendes by Tko in the fight section on Paddys site.

Paddy Power are the best price on Mendes KO/TKO at 9/2. Everywhere else 4/1:

http://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/chad-mendes-v-conor-mcgregor/method-of-victory

welchywelch

Paully D wrote:

Paddy Power are the best price on Mendes KO/TKO at 9/2. Everywhere else 4/1:

Thank you. I'm going to throw a few quid on that. I hope I lose it though.

That_Guy

Conrad McGillicudy is a fraud and a con I tells ya.

Nobody out-wrestles Brad "Cash" Mendoza!!

NOBODY!!!

Depp

oh id thank that twice if i could!

darced

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welchywelch

darced wrote:

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Thanks. I was expecting to see a guy who constantly tries to get a take down but from the fights I saw, he looks like an animal on his feet, if he can get in close enough. He wobbled aldo 3 or 4 times. Agree too, Connor doesn't look like a hard hitter, but obviously he must be. I think it was the fight before the siver one,where he dropped your man with what looked like a grazing blow to the back of the ear. I actually couldn't believe it hurt him. Has Connor ever been on the ground for long? I've only seen 2 of his fights and I don't remember him being on his back at all?

darced

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Eircom_Sucks

darced wrote: »

He hasn't in the Ufc but got finished quickly on the ground early in his career when he was very green,he is a different fighter now though.

fecking dying for this , god its taking ages

hurry up

hope conor steam rolls him and shuts up the whole team alphamale team inc urijah " jimmy hill " faber

Old Perry

right Ffs i feel like a bollix. have been checkin my follwed threads since the last was closed waitin for it to open back up :-[

So, if mcgregor loses will it be all that bad. people saying dana will be annoyed. but surely either way conor sucks it up and his story/hype continues and also aldo v mendes 3 would be equally as big?

also, questions about the title fight being staged in brazil, i dont get the hate for this, if aldo really is retiring ( and ufc may know this) then surely aldo deserves this given the fighter that he is?

CurryFlavoured

Should be an excellent fight. Mendes has the most one punch power at FW but overall Conor is possibly the best striker in the div. Chad will stalk him down in the hope of an opening but Conor won't back off like Lamas did. Both guys are willing to get hit in order to land the big shot which makes things interesting, maybe that will change considering both guys have so much KO power. Conors range gives an advantage but Chads wrestling will give him hope if his standup is lacking. Full camp I'd give the edge to Mendes but here its a toss up. Head is still telling me Mendes but Im really rooting for Conor here.

loudnoises89

I'm predicting a McGregor W here. The range is something Chad will find unbearable ( 8 inches i think - thats significant). I don't believe Conor will give him enough room to wind up that big right hand of his first of all. I think Mendes will get overwhelmed due to constant pressure and forward movement and get cracked. Look at the 2nd Aldo fight he got wobbled on a few occasions but Jose couldn't put it to bed, the difference is Conor has more power and does seem to be that more clinical from what i have seen of him. I believe it will go to the ground for a period but i just think Conor will ride out that storm. People seem to think he has no grappling ability whatsoever. I think he might surprise a few.

JustTheOne

darced wrote: »

I'd say you have a chance,Mendes is probably the hardest puncher in the division as he puts everything in to his punches unlike Conor who while he probably can hit as hard seems to just overwhelm opponents these days.
You are right his leg kicks looked heavy and that fake takedown to uppercut could catch Conor out.

I've read this 5 times and still think it makes no sense.

Lenin Skynard

JoeyJJ wrote: »

Will Conor resist throwing kicks to ensure he is able to sidestep a takedown or sprawl?

I was looking through Mendes' fights to see if he had fought any southpaws/decent strikers.

Only southpaw I could find was Erich Koch. He had some good success in the striking, particularly left high kicks. He burst Mendes' face open with one near the end of the fight, he was bleeding very heavy.

Mendes did win the fight and this was five years ago but I found it interesting all the same.

Aldo had brought in southpaw kickboxers from Holland, southpaw pro boxers from Cuba, southpaw Jonas Billiardinho. So Aldo obviously saw it as a big threat and something to prepare thoroughly for. Mendes has had no such preparation, so it'll be interesting to see how he deals with McGregor's opposite stance and high kicks without having had the chance to prepare for it..

jigglypuffstuff

Im actually looking forward to this more than the Aldo vs Mcgregor for several reasons... This will be a really good test for everyone to see what Conor is really made of, He's got a great opponent in Mendes

I've no doubt it will be an entertaining bout to say the least!

welchywelch

JustTheOne wrote:

I've read this 5 times and still think it makes no sense.

Why not? It's fairly simple to understand what he said.

JustTheOne

pone2012 wrote: »

Im actually looking forward to this more than the Aldo vs Mcgregor for several reasons... This will be a really good test for everyone to see what Conor is really made of, He's got a great opponent in Mendes

I've no doubt it will be an entertaining bout to say the least!

yeah aldo wouldn't have been a good test for conor alright.

JustTheOne

welchywelch wrote: »

Why not? It's fairly simple to understand what he said.

Mendes is the hardest hitter in the division. Conor hits as hard but only overwhelms his opponents

This is the bit I can't make sense of.

welchywelch

JustTheOne wrote:

Mendes is the hardest hitter in the division. Conor hits as hard but only overwhelms his opponents

I assume he ment the amount of accurate punches thrown where as mendes just hits big powerful shots.

welchywelch

It's difficult to judge who has a harder punch unless you're on the receiving end of a few anyway. It's all about connection/accuracy. A fairly weak puch on the chin could put you asleep, a haymaker to the jaw might not budge you.

JustTheOne

welchywelch wrote: »

I assume he ment the amount of accurate punches thrown where as mendes just hits big powerful shots.

No he said Mendes is the hardest hitter in the division.

Next sentence he says conor hits as hard.

It makes no sense let alone the overwhelming opponents comment.

welchywelch

JustTheOne wrote:

No he said Mendes is the hardest hitter in the division.

JustTheOne wrote:

Next sentence he says conor hits as hard.

JustTheOne wrote:

It makes no sense let alone the overwhelming opponents comment.

Ok, didn't see the "as" thought he just said Connor hits hard. Previous threads were locked for this kind of bickering so lets not have this happen again.

JustTheOne

welchywelch wrote: »

Ok, didn't see the "as" thought he just said Connor hits hard. Previous threads were locked for this kind of bickering so lets not have this happen again.

I'm not bickering just giving my opinion about something someone quoted which makes no sense which usually is the cause of threads been locked.

Anyway we'll leave it there.

darced

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Awesomeness

I have been a fan of Aldo but some of the stuff coming out of that camp in the last few weeks has been shady

http://severemma.com/2015/07/drug-free-sport-release-statement-on-jose-aldos-drug-test-debacle/

Mellor

I said it at the time that a team/fighter with nothing to hide wouldn't act the way Andre Pederneiras did. He's incredibly stupid when it comes to the media. But he could be running a dodgy shop too.

py2006

Conor playing a blinder on Conan yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOgao7UNw3E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Df0sN5fFvI
Edit: weird it seems the video isnt working Was there a second ago.
Embedded number three.


I have always liked Mendes. He seems like a very down to earth kind of guy and I like his fighting style and is a true warrior. I hope Conor wins but to be honest with this fight as long as the fight is a good/entertaining fight I wouldn't be heartbroken if Mendes won either.

Jjiipp79

Holy sh*t lads it's going to be a close one... Both very capable fighters and will be good watching!

C'mon McGregor....

welchywelch

Someone posted a link on one of the previous threads with a link to BT doing a special offer, 5euros for the night I think? If anyone could throw up the link again that'd be sound. Don't fancy paying 42 quid for this.

welchywelch

welchywelch wrote: »

Someone posted a video on one of the previous threads with a link to BT doing a special offer, 5euros for the night I think? If anyone could throw up the link again that'd be sound. Don't fancy paying 42 quid for this.

42 quid? It's like 17 or something on the UFC website

welchywelch

Deleted User wrote:

42 quid? It's like 17 or something on the UFC website

It's 21:99 per month and minimum sub is 2 months. I haven't a big enough monitor to watch it on the PC so I need BT sports.

welchywelch

welchywelch wrote: »

It's 21:99 per month and minimum sub is 2 months. I haven't a big enough monitor to watch it on the PC so I need BT sports.

Do you have an xbox hooked up to tv at all or anything? If so you can use the app.

Tefral

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do you have an xbox hooked up to tv at all or anything? If so you can use the app.

My LG tv updated itself two days ago and I now have a UFC app on my TV.

cronin_j

cronin_j wrote: »

My LG tv updated itself two days ago and I now have a UFC app on my TV.

Isn't the fight like 17.99 on the app?

Tefral

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Isn't the fight like 17.99 on the app?

Yeah! Bang on. If you sign up for the free trial of fight pass doesn't that also give you the fight?

cronin_j

cronin_j wrote: »

Yeah! Bang on.

Does anyone know if the HD is 1080 or 720? This is the first time I'll pay for a fight because I had BT before and was using dodgy streams after that for years. Don't want to risk this fight crapping out on me due to a dodgy stream I'll buy the fight in HD for sure, I can see it being money well spent.

Eircom_Sucks

cronin_j wrote: »

Yeah! Bang on. If you sign up for the free trial of fight pass doesn't that also give you the fight?

no

fightpass just gives you the fightpass prelims

That_Guy

I'm slowly getting excited about this fight now. Embedded doing a good job of that anyway.

EuskalHerria

welchywelch wrote: »

Someone posted a link on one of the previous threads with a link to BT doing a special offer, 5euros for the night I think? If anyone could throw up the link again that'd be sound. Don't fancy paying 42 quid for this.

Go to setanta: http://www.setanta.com/ie/subscribe-flat/index.html

Enter Promo code: five

It seems to be working for some and not for others. Seemed to work for me there as I tried it.
Try it and see if it works before purchase so nothing to lose.