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Senecio

^^. Was mentioned previous page.

It was very eloquent well constructed letter. She's moved up a notch in my books for it.

arch_stanton

The figure of 100 million subscribers has been mentioned. Probably a number an analyst pulled out of their rear but lets go with that. It would be about 5 times the number of current Spotify paying subscribers.

To keep things simple, and because I'm lazy, let's say the average subscription is $10 per month. That's forgetting about regional discounts, eg. low income countries like India and family plans.

So we have 100 millions subscribers paying 1 billion a month between them. Apple are rumoured to pay 71-72% in licence fees. Add another few cents for admin, bandwidth etc. and say 75% so Apple get 25%.

So thats 250 million a month for Apple, or 3 billion annually. Not to be sneezed at but Apple should something in the region of $225-230 billion revenue this year so it's just over 1%. That makes this very much an ecosystem lock-in play to sell more iPhones and good luck to them.

Offering the service on Android also gives them the opportunity to give Android users into the Apple world and also makes it easy for them if they switch to iOS. Their music account just transfers over. Another side benefit of including Android might be helping them avoid any antitrust type accusations like they ran into on iBooks.

Edit: I forgot to take VAT out so that's even less cash for Apple

Sad Professor

Apple Music is now showing as coming soon on the Irish Apple site.

lee_baby_simms

nokia211 wrote: »

What does everyone think about Taylor Swift making a stand against the lack of royalties for artists for three months? I think she was completely right.

Yep, it's like a new music venue throwing an opening night event by giving away free tickets to the public and yet not paying the bands who play.

ec18

Sad Professor wrote: »

Apple Music is now showing as coming soon on the Irish Apple site.

Says full access to the apple music library :eek:

Sad Professor

ec18 wrote: »

Says full access to the apple music library :eek:

Yeah, but Apple Music library doesn’t equal iTunes Store library. The iTunes Store has over 40 million songs, where as it seems Apple Music will have about 30 million. A lot of artists won’t sign up to streaming.

jack presley

nokia211 wrote: »

What does everyone think about Taylor Swift making a stand against the lack of royalties for artists for three months? I think she was completely right.

Some photographer is now accusing her being a hypocrite for the way she handles the rights to her photographs at concerts.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-33232244

murpho999

ec18 wrote: »

Says full access to the apple music library :eek:

That's hardly a surprise is it?

FourFourRED

Sad Professor wrote: »

Apple Music is now showing as coming soon on the Irish Apple site.

So much for your man who "emailed apple" and said it would be two weeks later.

Not sure why anyone believed him. Nokia3310 or whatever he calls himself

ec18

murpho999 wrote: »

That's hardly a surprise is it?

it was a bad interpretation on my part, i took that to mean the iTunes Library

peteeeed

FourFourFM wrote: »

So much for your man who "emailed apple" and said it would be two weeks later.

Not sure why anyone believed him. Nokia3310 or whatever he calls himself

well it still might be 2 weeks later , it says coming soon

FourFourRED

peteeeed wrote: »

well it still might be 2 weeks later , it says coming soon

Says the same on the UK website. Would be strange if they delayed it.

Sad Professor

It's not really clear if all 100+ countries will be launching simultaneously. Certainly that seems to be Apple's goal but if deals are still being finalised it's possible some countries will be delayed, hence the "coming soon" on all the international sites. We'll have to wait and see.

nokia211

FourFourFM wrote: »

So much for your man who "emailed apple" and said it would be two weeks later.

Not sure why anyone believed him. Nokia3310 or whatever he calls himself

Yes I did email them and Yes I did get an answer. So I would appreciate it if you would stop saying false things about me. To reconfirm yes apple said it will launch 2 weeks after the June 30 launch



Thanks for choosing Apple.
Hi,

Yes, Apple Music will be made available in Ireland on a later date than the initial released June 30, 2015 for the first 100 countries.
Apple Music will be made available in Ireland 2 weeks after the June 30, 2015 released.

Regards,

Kevin
iTunes Store/Mac App Customer Support
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/ww

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On Jun 9, 2015, at 20:59 <my email@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay thanks,
Do you know why Ireland won't get the service and also do you have a list of the 100 countries,
Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

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For more information, please open this email on your iPhone.
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Bummer1234

FourFourFM wrote: »

So much for your man who "emailed apple" and said it would be two weeks later.

Not sure why anyone believed him. Nokia3310 or whatever he calls himself

Bit harsh there I think, Apple do this on hardware release so why not on software,maybe in this case not overload the servers completely as everyone "tries it out"....

murpho999

ec18 wrote: »

it was a bad interpretation on my part, i took that to mean the iTunes Library

BUt that's what I take it to be as well. Apple Music will give you full access to the full Apple library, for the ones they have streaming deals in place for which I would imagine would be most, even Taylor Swift.

faceman

Unless Apple come to an arrangement with Sonos, I'll be sticking with Spotify.

Sad Professor

Is iTunes Match messed up for anyone else? Metadata is all over the place for me. Artists aren't even showing in alphabetical order.

peteeeed

everyone is friends again

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6605798/apple-music-signs-beggars-group-merlin-sources

flyguy

faceman wrote: »

Unless Apple come to an arrangement with Sonos, I'll be sticking with Spotify.

What?! No deal with Sonos, that's gonna cost them some customers. As I wrote earlier was already thinking of sticking with spotify (cause half price with vodafone) but this will make it a definite no for apple music.

Sideshow Mark

No doubt a Beats/Apple version of Sonos is high up the to do list in Cupertino

bertie4evr

Sideshow Mark wrote: »

No doubt a Beats/Apple version of Sonos is high up the to do list in Cupertino

I doubt it...

peteeeed

pharrell to release his new song first on apple music . you wouls think tidal maybe the first against the wall

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/134414-apple-music-s-first-exclusive-is-none-other-than

faceman

Sideshow Mark wrote: »

No doubt a Beats/Apple version of Sonos is high up the to do list in Cupertino

It probably makes more sense to focus on growing the userbase through the mobile market first. Then focus on hardware development.

Sad Professor

Apple already have their own version of Sonos in Airplay, but they entrusted the making of the speakers to third party manufacturers. Since Sonos see Apple as a competitor and won’t pay the license to use Airplay, I can’t see Apple being too pushed about throwing Sonos users a bone and adding a third party API for iTunes/Apple Music.

I guess they could buy Sonos with pocket change, but why would they want the hassle of supporting all those devices and services when it doesn’t benefit their ecosystem. Just because Apple are planning an Android app doesn’t mean they are becoming a services company.

I can’t see them making their own speakers either. Speakers last for years and unlike headphones don’t tend to break or get lost, where’s the profit? No, all they have to do is take over the streaming market, thereby forcing Sonos out of business (as Jobs would have liked) or into supporting Airplay.

Creamy Goodness

last time I put something on speaker I had to use a plastic disc to make sound come out

lee_baby_simms

peteeeed wrote: »

pharrell to release his new song first on apple music . you wouls think tidal maybe the first against the wall

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/134414-apple-music-s-first-exclusive-is-none-other-than

I think it's fair to call Tidal a disaster at this point. They've just lost a second CEO in as many months.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/boss-of-jay-zs-music-streaming-service-tidal-quits-1435063203

peteeeed

beats 1 shows for elton john St. Vincent,Dr. Dre, Josh Homme of Queens of the Stone Age and Disclosure.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/28/arts/music/zane-lowe-the-dj-scratching-out-beats-1-for-apple.html?_r=0

Zcott

Less than a week now, which should mean 8.4 will be released soon. Looking forward to trying it out.

Sideshow Mark

Looking forward to trying it out on Tuesday. Also quite like the round of the Beats radio station.

bertie4evr

flyguy wrote: »

What?! No deal with Sonos, that's gonna cost them some customers. As I wrote earlier was already thinking of sticking with spotify (cause half price with vodafone) but this will make it a definite no for apple music.

Today is your lucky day.

Sad Professor

I was just coming here to post that. I assume it means Apple will be offering an API. I guess there’s too many Sonos users to ignore.

medic087

I'm assuming this will not be available to Irish users when it goes live next week. Have Apple announced a date yet for Ireland officially ? Thanks

Sad Professor

No, but we should know by the end of tomorrow.

nokia211

medic087 wrote: »

I'm assuming this will not be available to Irish users when it goes live next week. Have Apple announced a date yet for Ireland officially ? Thanks

Approx two weeks after the June 30 launch is what we are told!

Sad Professor

nokia211 wrote: »

Approx two weeks after the June 30 launch is what we are told!

Yeah, but that was over 2 weeks ago. iTunes Support told me last week that it would be same day. The truth is even Apple probably didn’t know at that point, and even if they did, I still wouldn’t trust anything iTunes Support says.

nokia211

Sad Professor wrote: »

Yeah, but that was over 2 weeks ago. iTunes Support told me last week that it would be same day. The truth is even Apple probably didn’t know at that point, and even if they did, I still wouldn’t trust anything iTunes Support says.

Yeah I suppose but we can guarantee really that it will be available with the two weeks

FourFourRED

nokia211 wrote: »

Approx two weeks after the June 30 launch is what we are told!

One advisor (who most likely doesn't have the information) told you that. Everything points to it being available on the 30th June.

nokia211

FourFourFM wrote: »

One advisor (who most likely doesn't have the information) told you that. Everything points to it being available on the 30th June.

Yes maybe but I'm only trying to inform people on the information I was given. Obviously I would like it to be available on June 30. The way you are talking is as if I don't want it to be.

Creamy Goodness

Doubt it will be in Ireland on launch. The apple IE site says coming soon whereas the U.S. site says 6-30-15 (crazy date format for 30-6-15). Why would this be different unless it was to lag behind the U.S. launch?

FourFourRED

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Doubt it will be in Ireland on launch. The apple IE site says coming soon whereas the U.S. site says 6-30-15 (crazy date format for 30-6-15). Why would this be different unless it was to lag behind the U.S. launch?

So you think it will be USA only on the 30th?

"Apple Music will be available starting on June 30 in over 100 countries."

https://www.apple.com/pr/library/2015/06/08Introducing-Apple-Music-All-The-Ways-You-Love-Music-All-in-One-Place-.html

peteeeed

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Doubt it will be in Ireland on launch. The apple IE site says coming soon whereas the U.S. site says 6-30-15 (crazy date format for 30-6-15). Why would this be different unless it was to lag behind the U.S. launch?

UK are getting it on the 30th and their site still says coming soon too

_Redzer_

We aren't good enough to make the first tier of product launches, but I image we are good enough to make it into the first 100 countries

Sideshow Mark

So the iOS 8.4 update is out at 4pm tomorrow. With the Beats 1 radio station starting live broadcasting an hour later. It would have been confirmed by now if it wasn't coming to the Irish store tomorrow. Apple would have been keen to get ahead of any negativity a "surprise" tiered release would generate.

Loafing Oaf

Any word on the euro subscription price, whatever day it rolls out?

Flaccus

Sideshow Mark wrote: »

So the iOS 8.4 update is out at 4pm tomorrow. With the Beats 1 radio station starting live broadcasting an hour later. It would have been confirmed by now if it wasn't coming to the Irish store tomorrow. Apple would have been keen to get ahead of any negativity a "surprise" tiered release would generate.

My monthly Spotify premium is due to be charged the day after tomorrow. Wouldn't mind cancelling if Music was out tomorrow.

nokia211

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Any word on the euro subscription price, whatever day it rolls out?

No sadly not yet but the reports indicate it will probably be €9.99 a month

bertie4evr

Beats1 is streaming for me now.

Zcott

Same here, but it's just a non-stop trailer for Beats 1 and they all sound like they've had way too much coffee.

peteeeed

irish , uk and aussie sites still saying 'coming soon'