Silage thread

grazeaway · 20-05-2013 08:11AM

whelan1 wrote: »

he had promised me all that week it would be sown saturday, no mention at all of not working sunday, he had done our silage before and did work on sunday..... our land is heavy and was in great nick to be sown at that time... why bother doing a few rows?

Maybe he has sunday as a day of prayer some people take thier reglion very seriosly. a friend of mine used to play club rugby and when ever they played up north the match was always on a friday or saturady as many of the players and suppporters wouldnt be at a rugby park on a sunday. Or maybe he got married and had kids and the wife told him sunday was a family day.

That said he should have told you it wouldnt have been finished in time

bob charles · 20-05-2013 09:21AM

from grass results take last week or so sugars are very high which I was surprised with. Suppose the very slow growth has a produced grass of very high quality. I would expect silage ground to be the same, still little or no growth here.

Think we can right off this year for grass growth as I see a couple of my fields have started heading out. its all down hill, quality wise from here

compounded by the fact it never even started growing in the first place. Easy to see why I havnt much appreciation for grass

delaval · 20-05-2013 09:45AM

We will cut the most advanced next Monday as this week is to be good. If there is any doubt weather wise for next week I will knock on Thurs. We are waiting on our new loader we could use the one we have but the duals are with the dealer to be fitted properly, unlike the homemade job that we had done!!!

td5man · 20-05-2013 10:13AM

stanflt wrote: »

have grass in freezer that kw forages are collecting in the morning to test nitrates

How long does it take to get results back ?
Do oldcastle labs do nitrate testing ?

whelan1 · 20-05-2013 10:28AM

td5man wrote: »

How long does it take to get results back ?
Do oldcastle labs do nitrate testing ?

tagasc in grange did it for me before

whelan1 · 20-05-2013 10:35AM

stanflt wrote: »

picking up wed morn-defo tedding

using an additive from kw forages
Biotal Axphast gold is the highest
spec wet grass treatment
on the market. Improved animal performance and
effluent reductions of up to 50% from the resultant
silage are normal. Its use can also allow you the
flexibility of cutting and ensiling grass at higher
nitrate levels.

you still going to cut today, weather very disappointing today

mf240 · 20-05-2013 11:46AM

whelan1 wrote: »

he had promised me all that week it would be sown saturday, no mention at all of not working sunday, he had done our silage before and did work on sunday..... our land is heavy and was in great nick to be sown at that time... why bother doing a few rows?

Agree with this anyone involved in farming or contracting has no business not working sunday in fine weather. With weather, nitrate regulations and land conditions the last thing ya need is that sh1t.

bob charles · 20-05-2013 11:46AM

stanflt wrote: »

picking up wed morn-defo tedding

using an additive from kw forages
Biotal Axphast gold is the highest
spec wet grass treatment
on the market. Improved animal performance and
effluent reductions of up to 50% from the resultant
silage are normal. Its use can also allow you the
flexibility of cutting and ensiling grass at higher
nitrate levels.

I have being disappointed with Boital products in the past considering they are supposed to be top end of the market. Even more disappointed with KW forage:mad::mad: but lets not go there

mahoney_j · 20-05-2013 09:59PM

Knocked 2 padocks this afternoon,Weather dull and virtually no sun but next 2 days are meant to be warmish and with sunny spells.Tedded it out after mowing and will ted out twice tomorrow if weather is good ,Will wrap it up wednesday afternoon

freedominacup · 21-05-2013 05:43AM

I had to go to Cork last night. We saw several fields knocked. Yields varied from strong paddock to surprisingly heavy ( unless they had the conditioner set at proud or something).

Muckit · 21-05-2013 08:26AM

freedominacup wrote: »

I had to go to Cork last night. We saw several fields knocked.

Had you the night vision goggles on?

You'd be a long time searchin around here to see meadows knocked.... oh look...... a flyin' pig

PMU · 21-05-2013 08:34AM

stanflt wrote: »

worried about nitrates with the poor growth-dont want 500tonne of rotten first cut

1.80per ton

some teagasc offices used to have a test kit for nitrates and sugars. had mine done at a group meeting once.

stanflt · 21-05-2013 08:38AM

whelan1 wrote: »

you still going to cut today, weather very disappointing today

Busy

Muckit · 21-05-2013 08:44AM

Looks lovely stuff stan! Hope all goes well and everything stay out of the workshop til it's in all the pit.

Are you picking later on?

mf240 · 21-05-2013 09:24AM

Looks heavier than I was expecting.

Might be a bit of nitrogen in its from it's appearance but you've that covered with the additive and a wilt will be a big help.

Was that grazed ? And if so when?

Username John · 21-05-2013 09:29AM

mf240 wrote: »

Looks heavier than I was expecting.

Might be a bit of nitrogen in its from it's appearance but you've that covered with the additive and a wilt will be a big help.

Was that grazed ? And if so when?

How can you tell that?

mf240 · 21-05-2013 09:40AM

Username John wrote: »

How can you tell that?

The really dark green colour on some of it. I wouldn't stress about it.

I may have it wrong stan will put us straight when he gets back.

darragh_haven · 21-05-2013 10:15AM

PMU wrote: »

some teagasc offices used to have a test kit for nitrates and sugars. had mine done at a group meeting once.

My dad got a kit about 15 years ago to test the nitrate level and sugar level before cutting. I remember him saying it was 140 irish pounds (it's probably 500 euro these days). We still use it if there is any doubt weather the nitrates are gone. Its stopped us making a pit of sh1t for 15 years so itcwas money well spent.

Dampintheattic · 21-05-2013 10:39AM

darragh_haven wrote: »

My dad got a kit about 15 years ago to test the nitrate level and sugar level before cutting. I remember him saying it was 140 irish pounds (it's probably 500 euro these days). We still use it if there is any doubt weather the nitrates are gone. Its stopped us making a pit of sh1t for 15 years so itcwas money well spent.

This will do the job. $63 plus postage, etc.
http://www.kocour.net/productdetail.asp_Q_catID_E_91_A_subCatID_E_90_A_productID_E_81

stanflt · 21-05-2013 10:42PM

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Muckit · 22-05-2013 08:43AM

Do u have a rake Stan or do you row up with the lely aswel? Looks lovely stuff..... was I the only one scanning it to find even ONE dock??!!

Sprayed my own yesterday evening. Few docks, but mostly buttercups

eddiek · 22-05-2013 03:20PM

what do u spray the buttercups with muckit?

darragh_haven · 22-05-2013 04:13PM

stanflt wrote: »

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I'd say your very close to a ban stanfit. Putting up silage porn like that when fellas have animals still housed.....

kowtow · 22-05-2013 05:03PM

stanflt wrote: »

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You've a tile loose on the side of that garage.

aidanki · 22-05-2013 11:27PM

Dampintheattic wrote: »

This will do the job. $63 plus postage, etc.
http://www.kocour.net/productdetail.asp_Q_catID_E_91_A_subCatID_E_90_A_productID_E_81

if you have experience pleae explain how do you use it and interpet the results ?

delaval · 23-05-2013 10:52PM

Silage ground raging ahead since Sunday, we will cut tomorrow or next day depending on wether. What is the forecast?

freedominacup · 24-05-2013 06:03AM

delaval wrote: »

Silage ground raging ahead since Sunday, we will cut tomorrow or next day depending on wether. What is the forecast?

Did you stop X area on X date or do you wait until surpluses start to appear in April before stopping?

darragh_haven · 24-05-2013 08:15AM

Going to mow 4 to 5 acres at around 11 o'clock for baling. Two paddocks that got ahead of the rest. I'll give it s run of the swarthwilter this evening or tomorrow morning. Have the baler booked for tomorrow afternoon.
The main first cut will cut in 7 to 10 days time, weather permitting. The main crop should really be cut now for quality, but the volume isnt there yet.

freedominacup · 24-05-2013 08:46AM

darragh_haven wrote: »

Going to mow 4 to 5 acres at around 11 o'clock for baling. Two paddocks that got ahead of the rest. I'll give it s run of the swarthwilter this evening or tomorrow morning. Have the baler booked for tomorrow afternoon.
The main first cut will cut in 7 to 10 days time, weather permitting. The main crop should really be cut now for quality, but the volume isnt there yet.

Cut and get the quality you can still get the same bulk just stop some second cut. Cut now gives faster regrowths and keeps your options open.

darragh_haven · 24-05-2013 11:21AM

freedominacup wrote: »

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Cut and get the quality you can still get the same bulk just stop some second cut. Cut now gives faster regrowths and keeps your options open.

I know, but when I say light, I mean cattle could have grazed it last week if I was tightly on grass elsewhere. With pit silage, the contractors charge the same per acre whether its topping or heavy as be damned. It'd be fine if I was baling it.
Lets just say, if I was still milking cows id probably cut it all, but the fact that its for bullocks its not quite as important

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