Silage thread

hugo29

Would there be too much of nitrogen over load in 2 bags 10 10 20 and I bag can per acre , only getting silage ground rightly taken up now, end July cut , been a few cows picking it last few weeks

mf240

hugo29 wrote: »

Would there be too much of nitrogen over load in 2 bags 10 10 20 and I bag can per acre , only getting silage ground rightly taken up now, end July cut , been a few cows picking it last few weeks

You could put 3 bags can as well as 10 10 20

Farmer Pudsey

hugo29 wrote: »

Would there be too much of nitrogen over load in 2 bags 10 10 20 and I bag can per acre , only getting silage ground rightly taken up now, end July cut , been a few cows picking it last few weeks

Urea would be cheaper 2X urea and 10.10.20. Because of the weather consider splitting the nitrogen using only a bag of urea now and again in 3 weeks time. If it dry's up a lot you can use a bag and a half of CAN the next time. Feeding will be scares next winter so even if you have extra you will get any money you put into it back. The last thing you want is to be buying silage next winter if you can avoid it.

dasheriff

Id say there wont be a good cut of silage taken around here untill the first of july its a clean disaster

Alibaba

dasheriff wrote: »

Id say there wont be a good cut of silage taken around here untill the first of july its a clean disaster

Same in Kerry. At least 1st of July. Manured fields month ago. Hardly nothing in them now. Normally would be fit to cut in a couple of weeks.
On top of that land is saturated.
Total disaster. Definitely the Spring From Hell.

just do it

80 units of N went out on 29th April so 8th June is first possible date. Weather and yield will dictate. Won't delay though as want to take a second cut and reseed.

case885

mahoney_j wrote: »

That's the plan anyway a lot will depend on how wet sat night is,have a Tedder so will be turning it out 2 or 3 times possibly more depending on how warm and sunny it is,just looking back through diary and seemed to have cut and baled a lit of silage on Sundays last year,so much for keeping the sabbath a holy day!!!!

forget the sabbath hate people who say sunday is not for working farmers are always working especially if you are under pressure with weather

manjou

Silage will probably be in middle of july as fertliser only going out this week had to graze it 3 times since feb. Have some grazing ground that will be ready for baling in june but depends on grass growth which was very slow but might pick up this week as dry weather is forcast.Going for bulk as will be cheaper i think to add meal when cows calve than buy silage next winter.

freedominacup

manjou wrote: »

Silage will probably be in middle of july as fertliser only going out this week had to graze it 3 times since feb. Have some grazing ground that will be ready for baling in june but depends on grass growth which was very slow but might pick up this week as dry weather is forcast.Going for bulk as will be cheaper i think to add meal when cows calve than buy silage next winter.

It woud be cheaper again to add straw to quality silage for dry stock and have good quality available to fresh calvers.

stanflt

darragh_haven wrote: »

Stanfit is too busy to reply. He's probably knocking grass right now.

been busy but no silage made yet-


going at 80acres tomorrow at lunch time


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whelan1

case885 wrote: »

forget the sabbath hate people who say sunday is not for working farmers are always working especially if you are under pressure with weather

we had a contractor sowing our maize a few years ago, he came on a saturday evening did a few rows up the field and then said by the way we dont work sundays, rained monday and tuesday so was wednesday before he came back, was the last job he ever did here

fatoftheland

30 acres on Saturday and another 30 acres in a fortnight, were closed off first week in April and got CAN, pasture swart and slurry.

Muckit

stanflt wrote: »

been busy but no silage made yet- going at 80acres tomorrow at lunch time

Hope all goes well. It looks lie the weather is good for tomorrow and Tuesday. Do you plan to pick it on Tuesday? Will you be tedding?

Timmaay

Stan whats the cover like in comparison to other years? Back by much?

Muckit

Timmaay wrote: »

Stan whats the cover like in comparison to other years? Back by much?

I was thinking same Timmay. Would class Stan as top of the pile, and with his silage ground that height, don't feel as bad. Looks top quality stuff has to be said.

Does anyone test grass before cutting or is that OTT?

stanflt

Muckit wrote: »

Hope all goes well. It looks lie the weather is good for tomorrow and Tuesday. Do you plan to pick it on Tuesday? Will you be tedding?

picking up wed morn-defo tedding

using an additive from kw forages
Biotal Axphast gold is the highest
spec wet grass treatment
on the market. Improved animal performance and
effluent reductions of up to 50% from the resultant
silage are normal. Its use can also allow you the
flexibility of cutting and ensiling grass at higher
nitrate levels.

stanflt

Timmaay wrote: »

Stan whats the cover like in comparison to other years? Back by much?

similar covers but cutting date back one week on last year, 3 weeks on year before

stanflt

Muckit wrote: »

I was thinking same Timmay. Would class Stan as top of the pile, and with his silage ground that height, don't feel as bad. Looks top quality stuff has to be said.

Does anyone test grass before cutting or is that OTT?

have grass in freezer that kw forages are collecting in the morning to test nitrates

Muckit

Do you think sugars will be low or will it be harder ensile if it's wet, or what is your reasoning behind using an additive?

what will be the additional cost per ton/ per acre?

stanflt

Muckit wrote: »

Do you think sugars will be low or will it be harder ensile if it's wet, or what is your reasoning behind using an additive?

what will be the additional cost per ton/ per acre?

worried about nitrates with the poor growth-dont want 500tonne of rotten first cut

1.80per ton

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

we had a contractor sowing our maize a few years ago, he came on a saturday evening did a few rows up the field and then said by the way we dont work sundays, rained monday and tuesday so was wednesday before he came back, was the last job he ever did here

Why? If he had told ou on Sat evening that he didn't work on Sun what would you have done?
He was hardly responsible fo the rain.

severeoversteer

this pic was taken a week ago, has came on abit since , plan to cut in a week for bales

delaval

severeoversteer wrote: »

this pic was taken a week ago, has came on abit since , plan to cut in a week for bales

What are you waiting for, must be good by now:D:D

tismesoitis

Walked the silage fields this evening.If we were still milking we'd be on the job tomorrow but seeing as we are not (thank fook) going to leave it bulk up for another 10 days or so. We'll have it in before the BLUE JEAN COUNTRY QUEEN FESTIVAL anyway:D:D. Delighted with how heavy it is, about 10 days behind last year. BTW guys and gals all roads lead to Athboy on the june bank holiday for the Festival!!!!!!!!!

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

Why? If he had told ou on Sat evening that he didn't work on Sun what would you have done?
He was hardly responsible fo the rain.

he had promised me all that week it would be sown saturday, no mention at all of not working sunday, he had done our silage before and did work on sunday..... our land is heavy and was in great nick to be sown at that time... why bother doing a few rows?

Muckit

severeoversteer wrote: »

this pic was taken a week ago, has came on abit since , plan to cut in a week for bales

Looks lovely stuff

Muckit

stanflt wrote: »

worried about nitrates with the poor growth

Is 2 unitsN/day top of the job stan or if weather takes up this week will grass utilise more?

severeoversteer

wasn't grazed since last November but was grazed very tight, put 40 units of can on it 3-4 weeks ago want to make sure its gone that's why im giving it another week, im interested to hear stan on about testing for nitrate in grass, any time I send stuff to be tested it normally takes 2 weeks !

delaval

stanflt wrote: »

similar covers but cutting date back one week on last year, 3 weeks on year before

How many ties was it grazed?
Will go in middle of week I think!

stanflt

Muckit wrote: »

Is 2 unitsN/day top of the job stan or if weather takes up this week will grass utilise more?

2units a day if growth is normal