Captain America : Civil War *spoilers from post 480*

EoinMcLovin

Set for release in the United States on May 6, 2016, “Captain America: Civil War” is directed by Anthony and Joe Russo.

Here's the official synopsis of the film: "'Captain America: Civil War' picks up where 'Avengers: Age of Ultron' left off, as Steve Rogers leads the new team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. After another international incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability and a governing body to determine when to enlist the services of the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers while they try to protect the world from a new and nefarious villain."

SouthTippBass

Set for release in the United States on May 6, 2016, Captain America: Civil War is directed by Anthony and Joe Russo from a screenplay by Christopher Markus & Stephen McFeely

The film returns Chris Evans as the iconic Super Hero Captain America along with Iron Man, Black Widow, Winter Soldier, Falcon, The Vision, Hawkeye, War Machine and Scarlet Witch.

After his debut in Marvel’s Ant-Man, Paul Rudd will make his first appearance alongside the Avengers as Scott Lang/Ant-Man in Captain America: Civil War.

The film also includes an outstanding additional cast, including T’Challa/Black Panther, Sharon Carter/Agent 13, Daniel Brühl(?) , Crossbones, General Thaddeus Thunderbolt Ross and Martin Freeman(?)

Captain America: Civil War picks up where Avengers: Age of Ultron left off, as Steve Rogers leads the new team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. After another international incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability and a governing body to determine when to enlist the services of the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers while they try to protect the world from a new and nefarious villain.

EoinMcLovin

SouthTippBass wrote: »

Well that was horrible. Heres a readable version of that text...

Sorry about that huge block of unreadable text. Removed the lot of it and just kept synopsis

pixelburp

Personally, a main character has to die, or there has to be some form of tangible, actual consequence to events; it's not enough now to forgive the films with the argument of 'ah sure they're just whizz-bang blockblusters', and Civil War seems like the best point to do it given the nature of its story. The MCU needs a narrative / creative shot in the arm imo.

SouthTippBass

pixelburp wrote: »

Personally, a main character has to die, or there has to be some form of tangible, actual consequence to events; it's not enough now to forgive the films with the argument of 'ah sure they're just whizz-bang blockblusters', and Civil War seems like the best point to do it given the nature of its story. The MCU needs a narrative / creative shot in the arm imo.

Im pretty sure thats gonna happen with Civil War...... preeeety sure.

Lithium93_

The cast for Civil War so far

constitutionus

i hope not as TBH it sound cheap.

i'd much prefer a captain america on the run as an outlaw by the end of it. it'd be far more interesting to see the powers that be run a campaign againts him than just have him offed. side we all know he has to end up in infinity war with a broken shield courtessy of thanos.

still its nice to see cap 3 be effectively avengers 2.5 and im glad ant mans getting on the team.

JP Liz V1

Lithium93_ wrote: »

The cast for Civil War so far

Should be called Avengers 3 War


Sebastian Stan is back too as Bucky

Cookie_Monster

too... much... cast...

Zhane

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

too... much... cast...

It's a war...between superheroes...it's going to be epic.

Falthyron

The script for Civil War has been leaked (allegedly). However, as previous leaks on 4Chan have proved to be true, this could be another one.

Obvious spoilers when clicking the link:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BritsKingdom/news/?a=120220

pixelburp

Zhane wrote: »

It's a war...between superheroes...it's going to be epic.

I wonder if any cities will be levelled during the fights?

Mitch Connor

pixelburp wrote: »

I wonder if any cities will be levelled during the fights?

if they follow the comic book - A BIG FECKING YES to that. its fairly integral to the plot at various points, and that is just within the 7 Civil War comics, never mind the 90+ comics that feed in to that arc.

Stone Deaf 4evr

Theres no way I can see of condensing that whole story into a 2.5 hour movie and have it pay off in a satisfactory way IMO. The cast numbers alone mean that half of them aren't going to get their Due.

SouthTippBass

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Theres no way I can see of condensing that whole story into a 2.5 hour movie and have it pay off in a satisfactory way IMO. The cast numbers alone mean that half of them aren't going to get their Due.

I know, a season of ten or so episodes on Netflix would be more appropriate. With the big $$$ budget of course

Stone Deaf 4evr

SouthTippBass wrote: »

I know, a season of ten or so episodes on Netflix would be more appropriate. With the big $$$ budget of course

Its been a while since I read Civil War, but if memory serves me correctly, there aren't that many huge set piece battles a la the end of the movies. Its a much more intimate affair looking at how different characters are adversely affected by both sides of the registration act. Condensing that down to big battles just isn't going to work.

Bacchus

SouthTippBass wrote: »

I know, a season of ten or so episodes on Netflix would be more appropriate. With the big $$$ budget of course

Perhaps AoS will provide a lot of build up to this?

Mitch Connor

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Theres no way I can see of condensing that whole story into a 2.5 hour movie and have it pay off in a satisfactory way IMO. The cast numbers alone mean that half of them aren't going to get their Due.

agreed - but I don't think they will follow the story exactly, just use the same basic story of the registration act and the fight for/against it.

We won't have Nitro and his involvement, but we have the battle of new york, the devestation of london in Thor 2, Hulk and Iron Man destroying some of South Africa - we already have reasons for a Registration Act to be put in place.

We already have people who will pick sides - Iron Man, Black Widow and WarMachine pro-registration. Cap and Falcon anti-registration. I reckon Hawkeye could be the fulcrum of the fight. His army background leaning him towards pro - his desire to keep his family safe/secret his reasons for anti-registration.

No clue how they will tie Ant Man in to it. Is Paul Rudds character a sufficient genius to work with Iron Man in the way he (and Reed Richards) do in the comics? Also have to assume a different relationship between Iron Man and Spider Man - and a guess they simply can't unmask publicly, not before he has even had his own movie (in this characters iteration).

There have to be massive changes to the story, but if they are to tie it up similar to how the comic ends - there has to be a big, city damaging fight. Obviously they don't have to end the movie the same way, but regardless of how they get to the end it would make sense with regards to the continuing the Avengers story arc into Infinity War, and would make sense with how Marvel have ended every other movie.

Mitch Connor

SouthTippBass wrote: »

Im pretty sure thats gonna happen with Civil War...... preeeety sure.

My guess is a non-major charactor, or no one will die in Civil War, but that Captain America will die at the end of Infinity Wars part 1.

Mitch Connor

Bacchus wrote: »

Perhaps AoS will provide a lot of build up to this?

it feels like it has started this with the (Shield vs Shield) vs Hydra story at the moment. Coulson with the anti-registration, other shield with pro-registration.

Though I feel that story arc may round itself off long before Civil War hits.

Lithium93_

Sebastian Stan on the Civil War set

https://instagram.com/p/2d9VxUOmsf/?taken-by=imsebastianstan

brianregan09

I wonder if Martin Freeman could be playing

Norman Obsborne

EoinMcLovin

brianregan09 wrote: »

I wonder if Martin Freeman could be playing

Norman Obsborne

I heard one theory of him being either Henry Gyrich (Government Liaison to the Avengers), or Everett Ross (a Government agent assigned to Wakanda)

SouthTippBass

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

I heard one theory of him being either

Henry Gyrich (Government Liaison to the Avengers), or Everett Ross (a Government agent assigned to Wakanda)

Or how about Pip the troll? Dudes got the experiance

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/RayDyas/2006-12-07_131053_Pip_3.jpg

(I don't think its necessary to spoiler tag a theory)

FunLover18

Bacchus wrote:

Perhaps AoS will provide a lot of build up to this?

I think they already are with the Index of powered beings and Inhumans

Penn

brianregan09 wrote: »

I wonder if Martin Freeman could be playing

Norman Obsborne

When Marvel did the deal for the shared rights to Spider-Man, my one wish, is for Mel Gibson to play Norman Osborne and lead into a Dark Avengers storyline after Infinity War.

CramCycle

I think it would be interesting if Spiders unmasking was his first appearance into the MCU.

They can make brief mention of his past or have him as a name drop in AoS, leave the movie for now and have it at a later date, after civil war.

It's not as if he is not big enough to drop in with no explanation.

Mitch Connor

CramCycle wrote: »

I think it would be interesting if Spiders unmasking was his first appearance into the MCU.

They can make brief mention of his past or have him as a name drop in AoS, leave the movie for now and have it at a later date, after civil war.

It's not as if he is not big enough to drop in with no explanation.

I just can't see how an unmasking makes sense.

He is gonna be just a kid, only really starting out. To have him publicly unmask at the very start of his movie story just doesn't make sense to me. There would be a potential impact for the audience, but not for the people within the movie as he isn't a big name superhero who has been the subject of public scrutiny for years and has hidden his identity for years.

If the idea is to have him in school for the first of his own movies, unmasking him would be a very odd thing to do.

I reckon it is Hawkeye, with his family, that will take up Spidermans role in the CW arc.

Mickeroo

The only hero that's been established so far that has a proper secret identity is Daredevil I think? Spoilering because lots of people reading this might not read the comics:

Spider-man's unmasking was such a big deal because he was always so paranoid about his adversaries finding out who he was, a big unmasking scene with any of the heroes established in the marvel films so far won't have much of an impact.

D'Agger

Lithium93_ wrote: »

The cast for Civil War so far

My reaction to this was very much:

Yay the usual gang
Paul Rudd JOB!
More of Vision, class
That gimp looking fella looks class :eek:
Unreal the guy from Inglorious Basterds :cool:
MARTIN FREEMAN YUSS!
Ah fúck off it's that dope from Revenge :mad:

Penn

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I just can't see how an unmasking makes sense.

He is gonna be just a kid, only really starting out. To have him publicly unmask at the very start of his movie story just doesn't make sense to me. There would be a potential impact for the audience, but not for the people within the movie as he isn't a big name superhero who has been the subject of public scrutiny for years and has hidden his identity for years.

If the idea is to have him in school for the first of his own movies, unmasking him would be a very odd thing to do.

I reckon it is Hawkeye, with his family, that will take up Spidermans role in the CW arc.

I'm hoping they stick with what was probably the initial intention and have Black Panther unmask. They could play it like BP is a local Wakandan superhero but by revealing his real identity means revealing he's actually the King of Wakanda. It'd be enough to make his unmasking mean something, while not unmasking Spider-Man as that would really screw up his solo films before they even begun.

StaticAge11

Bad Horse wrote: »

I'm hoping they stick with what was probably the initial intention and have Black Panther unmask. They could play it like BP is a local Wakandan superhero but by revealing his real identity means revealing he's actually the King of Wakanda. It'd be enough to make his unmasking mean something, while not unmasking Spider-Man as that would really screw up his solo films before they even begun.

But audiences know Spider-Man and his secret identity. Even though it's his first appearance in the MCU, they still would be familiar with him. Black panther is being introduced and even though the character is great, the general non-comic reading audience really aren't going to care if he unmasks. Spider-Man would have much more impact

sky88

I dont think anyone will unmask i think this will be done differently then the comics. i think the in this marvel universe there is already enough heros who people know already like stark and captain america.

Mickeroo

I think it will be quite different from the comics yeah, the "civil war" in this case might not even be about a registration act.

OU812

Did I read somewhere that they're dividing this movie into two parts (which I hate them doing in any event)

Mickeroo

OU812 wrote: »

Did I read somewhere that they're dividing this movie into two parts (which I hate them doing in any event)

You're probably thinking of Infinity War which is the next Avengers outing.

Brief_Lives

Quick question about the Civil war in the comics... and I have been in marvelipedia, wikipedia and all the other pedias, but i can´t find a straight answer... but some of the gents here will surely know...

Peter Parker unmasks himself in Civil War, so is he now, after coming back from the dead, still a known person and does his family still have to go into hiding..? everyone still knows who spider-man is..?

He´s back from the comic book fake death, right..?

Also as I have your attention, is Charles xavier still dead..?

Mitch Connor

Bad Horse wrote: »

I'm hoping they stick with what was probably the initial intention and have Black Panther unmask. They could play it like BP is a local Wakandan superhero but by revealing his real identity means revealing he's actually the King of Wakanda. It'd be enough to make his unmasking mean something, while not unmasking Spider-Man as that would really screw up his solo films before they even begun.

can't see why the King of another country would unmask himself for an American government act. In the comics he steers quite clear of both sides (at least up to the half-way point which i have read (read the 7 civil war comics, now reading the 90+ comics around it)

brianregan09

Brief_Lives wrote: »

Quick question about the Civil war in the comics... and I have been in marvelipedia, wikipedia and all the other pedias, but i can´t find a straight answer... but some of the gents here will surely know...

Peter Parker unmasks himself in Civil War, so is he now, after coming back from the dead, still a known person and does his family still have to go into hiding..? everyone still knows who spider-man is..?

He´s back from the comic book fake death, right..?

Also as I have your attention, is Charles xavier still dead..?

It's Ultimate Spiderman who died (diffrent timeline) he was replaced by Miles Morales and the regular universe spiderman who was unmasked as far as i know he signed a deal with the devil for everything to go back to normal, Regular spiderman died but not really , he swapped bodies with Doc Ock who became spiderman for a while , But some of peter was still in his body if that makes sense and he fought back Doc Ock and eventually regained control ......someone else might be able to clear that up even more

EoinMcLovin

Brief_Lives wrote: »

Quick question about the Civil war in the comics... and I have been in marvelipedia, wikipedia and all the other pedias, but i can´t find a straight answer... but some of the gents here will surely know...

Also as I have your attention, is Charles xavier still dead..?

Charles Xavier was killed by a Phoenix possessed Cyclops

http://marvel.wikia.com/Civil_War_%28Event%29

Penn

Brief_Lives wrote: »

Quick question about the Civil war in the comics... and I have been in marvelipedia, wikipedia and all the other pedias, but i can´t find a straight answer... but some of the gents here will surely know...

Peter Parker unmasks himself in Civil War, so is he now, after coming back from the dead, still a known person and does his family still have to go into hiding..? everyone still knows who spider-man is..?

He´s back from the comic book fake death, right..?

Also as I have your attention, is Charles xavier still dead..?

Aunt May gets shot and is dying, so Peter made a deal with the devil Mephisto to save her by essentially removing people's knowledge of him being Spider-Man from their minds, like as if he had never unmasked during Civil War. So no-one knows who Spider-Man is any more (with certain exceptions). Also, he never necessarily died, but Doc Ock took over his body for about a year or so and was living as Peter/Spider-Man. That's been reversed now though so it's normal Peter again.

And yes, Xavier is still dead. Red Skull kind of absorbed his powers and a fragment of his mind, but he's still technically dead. No one really dies in comics.

Bacchus

brianregan09 wrote: »

It's Ultimate Spiderman who died (diffrent timeline) he was replaced by Miles Morales and the regular universe spiderman who was unmasked as far as i know he signed a deal with the devil for everything to go back to normal, Regular spiderman died but not really , he swapped bodies with Doc Ock who became spiderman for a while , But some of peter was still in his body if that makes sense and he fought back Doc Ock and eventually regained control ......someone else might be able to clear that up even more

Yup, that makes perfect sense.

brianregan09

Is it hilariously convoluted reading as it was me typing it

EoinMcLovin

Bad Horse wrote: »

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And yes, Xavier is still dead. Red Skull kind of absorbed his powers and a fragment of his mind, but he's still technically dead. No one really dies in comics.

He stole Charles Xavier's brain

Penn

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

He stole Charles Xavier's brain

Well, that's the technical scientific explanation of course

CramCycle

I really did not expect to get so many comic spoilers in the film thread, this is all very confusing

colosus1908

cliche!

EoinMcLovin

first photo of crossbones

Lithium93_

Spider-Man confirmed for Captain America: Civil War.

http://comicbook.com/2015/06/24/spider-man-confirmed-for-captain-america-civil-war/

FunLover18

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Spider-Man confirmed for Captain America: Civil War.

http://comicbook.com/2015/06/24/spider-man-confirmed-for-captain-america-civil-war/

Not surprising, it will probably be a cameo can't imagine they'd use his storyline from the comic.

pmasterson95

Suprising to have Black Panther involved. Like was said earlier he tended to regularly dissapear back to Wakanda. Even when he was an active Avenger he'd still go home for a while quite regularly. Dont know why he would be interested in an American Act.