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Sacred Cows (people no one dares criticise)

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    #332
    Dwarf.Shortage
    Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Dwarf.Shortage


    Chloris wrote: »
    Ok, finally somebody who's actually going to propose a refutation to my argument. I'm looking forward to this.

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    Look, I could argue this until the sacred cows come home but we're just going around in circles; can't we just accept, in a thread specifically for unpopular opinions, that some people really find sport irksome and overrated?

    Make up your mind.


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    #333
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    galljga1 wrote: »
    Dwarf Throwing.

    Banned by the elf and safety brigade.


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    #334
    MRnotlob606
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Junkyard Cat wrote: »
    Banned by the elf and safety brigade.

    Are you an actual cat ? that would be mad craic now. A little dote of a cat with a mouse on internet forums. How pleasant.


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    #335
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    MRnotlob606 wrote: »
    Are you an actual cat ? that would be mad craic now. A little dote of a cat with a mouse on internet forums. How pleasant.

    Here's a pic of me.


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    #336
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    John Lennon. What an annoying hypocrical man.love is all you need my arse.he wasn't very loving when he beat his two wives and emotionally abused his son.he was also a pathological liar and politically clueless.


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    #337
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Irish Guitarist wrote: »
    Stephen Fry. I think he's a bit of a prick myself.

    Anytime there's a thread about being offended someone will post this. Meanwhile someone calls him 'boring' on Twitter and he threatens to delete his account in a desperate bid for attention. God forbid one person might not find him fascinating.

    Yeah, he always strikes me as a bit of a drama queen. And very supercilious on QI. Drop it, Stephen, an army of researchers found all the facts you're vomiting.


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    #338
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Bressie also. He has depression so we'll gloss over the fact he's useless and smug and his music is horrific.


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    #339
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    I think Bressie is the exact opposite of a sacred cow. He gets regularly slated despite being a fairly inoffensive kinda bloke. He judges on that talent show and used to be in a band and has published the odd opinion column.

    I'm not seeing anything worse than any other z-lister - same with his attitude: not anything particularly OTT cocky there IMO.

    Saying he has depression has particularly seemed to cause people to be on the attack towards him. It's not easy for everyone to talk about their depression. I did so here last night, and even though it's nothing to be ashamed of, I've deleted some posts now.


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    #340
    SummerSummit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭SummerSummit


    The Palestinians


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    #341
    Dirty Dingus McGee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Chloris wrote: »
    Absolutely not. They, at least, have storylines with human meaning and characters you can empathise with. Athletes are usually overpaid, braindead muscley twats. Because sport is just this stupid aimless thing which has no real grounding, it cannot possibly deal with the complex human themes in the same way that literature or film can. It all ultimately has no purpose beyond "this arbitrary set of rules and objectives" outlined by the sport itself.

    Most sportsmen don't get paid a penny.

    Most sports have great story lines attached to them and I think the majority of people can empathize with sportsmen when they see how much effort they put in for very little reward in most cases and when they say the pain defeat can cause them.in both watching and participating sport plays a key part in peoples lives across the world.

    You dismiss team sports in another post yet they are a very good grounding for what life in general is like.Loads of effort for a common good , having to co-operate with people and listen to their opinions, I'd imagine that playing teams sports would give someone the edge in getting a job as a lot of workplaces are big into team work and if you can work in a team environment in sport you can do it in work as well.And sports is a great metaphor for life as it results in continual failure for each and every participant.


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    #342
    neris
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    Joe Duffy - Working man of the people on 10 times the average industrial wage **** himself off to others misery and suffering but his buddies in the media fail to notice this and point it out to the average liveline caller


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    #343
    Dirty Dingus McGee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Oakley Shrilling Lifeboat wrote: »
    No, but dedicating the amount of time to physical fitness that a professional athlete needs to dedicate probably means that they haven't been dedicating the amount of time to learning that other people have been. There are only so many hours in the day. Intelligence is not just an inherent aptitude, it's a skill, and it can be very much a case of use it or lose it.

    Honest to god, listen to interviews with professional rugby or soccer players. Generally speaking they're not TED material, to put it mildly. It doesn't mean they're bad people or that they haven't worked very hard to get where they are.

    I'd imagine it takes a great degree of intelligence to be good at sport. Sport involves continually making split second decisions.Looking at golf or snooker which are slow paced sports it must take a great degree of intelligence to work out what shot to play at times when there are so many potential options available to the player.

    There is more to intelligence than maths,science and english etc. Instead of applying there intelligence to a matches etc sports men apply it to there sport.


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    #344
    Dwarf.Shortage
    Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Dwarf.Shortage


    SummerSummit wrote: »
    The Palestinians

    And I'd say on the other hand the same can be said of The Israeli's, that conflict is a great example of what the OP is talking about because it's so divisive. Most people who know a bit about it hold one or the other side as a sacred cow and the other side as evil, in my experience anyway.


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    #345
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,312 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Oakley Shrilling Lifeboat wrote: »
    No, but dedicating the amount of time to physical fitness that a professional athlete needs to dedicate probably means that they haven't been dedicating the amount of time to learning that other people have been. There are only so many hours in the day. Intelligence is not just an inherent aptitude, it's a skill, and it can be very much a case of use it or lose it.

    Honest to god, listen to interviews with professional rugby or soccer players. Generally speaking they're not TED material, to put it mildly. It doesn't mean they're bad people or that they haven't worked very hard to get where they are.

    Sure look at the big thick head on Jamie Roberts.


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    #346
    bjork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    Those who can not be mentioned or the thread will be closed


    Hint: This time 8 years to the day they had downed a bottle of new zealand wine and were half way through dinner


    While their toddlers were home alone


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    #347
    Junkyard Tom
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    I love sports myself. I play soccer regularly enough and love watching Rugby Union. I find the blanket dislike of sport a bit odd myself. I mean, indifference to sport is understandable but hostility towards it seems bizarre.


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    #348
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »
    I'd imagine it takes a great degree of intelligence to be good at sport. Sport involves continually making split second decisions.Looking at golf or snooker which are slow paced sports it must take a great degree of intelligence to work out what shot to play at times when there are so many potential options available to the player.

    There is more to intelligence than maths,science and english etc. Instead of applying there intelligence to a matches etc sports men apply it to there sport.

    There are different types of intelligence, sure. I couldn't do what sportspeople do and I'm not undermining their skill. But listen to most of them stringing a sentence together, especially when they're discussing anything other than their sport. It takes a certain degree of monomania to be at that level with anything. On the flipside you have the archetypal eccentric professorial type who has no common sense, or people who are highly intelligent and skilled at something academic but have zero social intelligence.

    I think this insistence on saying "sure athletes ARE intelligent" actually kind of does the opposite of what it's intended to do. Being able to play a sport has value in itself, it doesn't have to be justified by saying that they're just as intelligent as a phd candidate, speaking of which...
    pickarooney wrote: »
    Sure look at the big thick head on Jamie Roberts.

    That's nice, but not exactly representative, is it?


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    #349
    roshje
    Registered Users Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭roshje


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Sure look at the big thick head on Jamie Roberts.
    Do you mean Dr. Jamie Roberts :D


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    #350
    Dirty Dingus McGee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Oakley Shrilling Lifeboat wrote: »
    There are different types of intelligence, sure. I couldn't do what sportspeople do and I'm not undermining their skill. But listen to most of them stringing a sentence together, especially when they're discussing anything other than their sport. It takes a certain degree of monomania to be at that level with anything. On the flipside you have the archetypal eccentric professorial type who has no common sense, or people who are highly intelligent and skilled at something academic but have zero social intelligence.

    I think this insistence on saying "sure athletes ARE intelligent" actually kind of does the opposite of what it's intended to do. Being able to play a sport has value in itself, it doesn't have to be justified by saying that they're just as intelligent as a phd candidate, speaking of which...



    That's nice, but not exactly representative, is it?

    Your right it doesn't have to be justified except when someone like yourself questions a sports persons intelligence.

    I don't hold it against Stephen Hawking that he isn't a skilful sportsman as that us not his field of expertise so why would anybody hold it against a sports man if they are not good at public speaking or maths etc.The only people who do that are those who feel threatened in some way by the popularity of sport and have to dismiss it as being un-itellectual and the participants not being intelligent in order to make themselves seem more clever.


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    #351
    When the Sun Hits
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭When the Sun Hits


    Cuban Pete wrote: »
    Uh-huh? I'm the one who's biased. Right.

    Wow, great retort.

    I've shown no bias at all. You are the one who made the ridiculous claim that criticism of the Islam faith is something that is accepted, and that objection to this criticism is "taboo" and unheard of. Can you prove that in any way? Perhaps you're not biased, but if not, you are seriously deluded.


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    #352
    dublinman1990
    Registered Users Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Anyone of the "stars" who works at RTE.

    In music Justin Bieber & One Direction.......and all the fans who love them.


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    #353
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    dublinman1990 wrote: »
    Anyone of the "stars" who works at RTE.

    In music Justin Bieber & One Direction.......and all the fans who love them.

    Kanye west's music.he's a genius don't ya know!


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    #354
    crockholm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    In Ireland,I would say, Nurses-they tend to be held in high esteem and being critical of them is often frowned upon.

    Gay Culture-it seems to have Went from being derided and mocked unmercifully to being more than just tolerated but,any form of criticism is frowned upon,in a very short period of time.


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    #355
    roshje
    Registered Users Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭roshje


    Teachers


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    #356
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Dalai Lama


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    #357
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    MakeEmLaugh wrote: »
    What are some examples of sacred cows? That is, people who no one seems to want to criticise.

    Our President, Michael D. Higgins, is one (apart from the protesters who called him a "midget parasite").

    Who are some other examples?

    Boards Mods .........


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    #358
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    bjork wrote: »
    Those who can not be mentioned or the thread will be closed


    Hint: This time 8 years to the day they had downed a bottle of new zealand wine and were half way through dinner


    While their toddlers were home alone
    They have been mentioned.


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    #359
    Pawwed Rig
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,353 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Nurses. Always complaining about something or other that was publicly evident before they even started their training.


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    #360
    Rothko
    Registered Users Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    crockholm wrote: »
    Well,it's a boards sacred cow-but,I actually agree with what the Young lad Donal Walsh said,more importantly,why he said what he said.He was a Young fellah doing his best to hold on to his fleeting existance and a bunch of ****heads are topping themselves because they can't get what they want,and leaving their families in torment.

    This has to be the most idiotic comment I have ever seen on this site. Well done.


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    #361
    MakeEmLaugh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭MakeEmLaugh


    dublinman1990 wrote: »
    Anyone of the "stars" who works at RTE.

    In music Justin Bieber & One Direction.......and all the fans who love them.

    Wow. You really don't understand what 'sacred cow' means.


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