denis o brien takes out yet another high court action, this time against RTE/Pravda

renegademaster

http://www.thejournal.ie/rte-denis-obrien-2079413-May2015/

What's going on here then?

kneemos

renegademaster wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/rte-denis-obrien-2079413-May2015/

What's going on here then?

Another lets make spurious allegations against DOB thread.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

'An RTE story'

Eugene Norman

kneemos wrote: »

Another lets make spurious allegations against DOB thread.

Except he has clearly taken out an injunction against RTE.

kneemos

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Except he has clearly taken out an injunction against RTE.

Sooo?

SEPT 23 1989

so he owns most of the media and gags the rest

scary stuff when you actually think about it

renegademaster

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

so he owns most of the media and gags the rest

scary stuff when you actually think about it

No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no no there's no limits

bpb101

kneemos wrote: »

Another lets make spurious allegations against DOB thread.

all im saying is that brian cowen is now on the board of Denis o'brien owned Topas




( I didnt see applications on jobs.ie for it)

The_Valeyard

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

so he owns most of the media and gags the rest

scary stuff when you actually think about it

Yes it is. 'Who watches the watchers'

For Forks Sake

bpb101 wrote: »

all im saying is that brian cowen is now on the board of Denis o'brien owned Topas




( I didnt see applications on jobs.ie for it)

It's a private company, you don't usually see them advertising online for directors.

Streetwalker

This man has far too much power in this nation. He can get 12 members of the police force to guard a water meter and stop the national broadcaster from talking about him.

The Ging and I

bpb101 wrote: »

all im saying is that brian cowen is now on the board of Denis o'brien owned Topas




( I didnt see applications on jobs.ie for it)

To be politically correct Im sure you mean BIFFO.

Banjo String

renegademaster wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/rte-denis-obrien-2079413-May2015/

What's going on here then?

Dunno, but it shows you how much of a cnut uncy Denny is, when the journal disables the comments facility.

The more I think about it actually, we've all been on about how the Govt should just privatise RTÉ.....

I'm not so sure I support that notion any longer.

renegademaster

Banjo String wrote: »

Dunno, but it shows you how much of a cnut uncy Denny is, when the journal disables the comments facility.

The more I think about it actually, we've all been on about how the Govt should just privatise RTÉ.....

I'm not so sure I support that notion any longer.

No privatisation!! Irish water, Irish nation!!

Valetta

Streetwalker wrote: »

This man has far too much power in this nation. He can get 12 members of the police force to guard a water meter and stop the national broadcaster from talking about him.

No he can't .

noway12345

It's crazy that this man has supporters. What's wrong with people? He's earned billions coming from a highly suspect deal, he doesn't pay tax here, he gets awarded contracts from his pals in government, this isn't the first time he's silenced people from talking about his dubious affairs, the list goes on.

kneemos

noway12345 wrote: »

It's crazy that this man has supporters. What's wrong with people? He's earned billions coming from a highly suspect deal, he doesn't pay tax here, he gets awarded contracts from his pals in government, this isn't the first time he's silenced people from talking about his dubious affairs, the list goes on.

No wrong doing proven anyway on the Digifone deal.
No company worth they're salt pays more tax than they have to.
What evidence have you that he silenced anyone?
Any more wild allegations?

Dunno anything about the man,could be a complete chancer but until I see some facts I'll refrain from begrudgery bashing.

super_furry

Pravda was renamed, its the Grand Social now.

Good selection of beers mind you.

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

No wrong doing proven anyway on the Digifone deal.
No company worth they're salt pays more tax than they have to.
What evidence have you that he silenced anyone?
Any more wild allegations?

Dunno anything about the man,could be a complete chancer but until I see some facts I'll refrain from begrudgery bashing.

There was a finding that he paid a Minister £500,000, and supported a loan of almost that amount to the same Minister, who had secured the mobile licence for him.

I would have thought most would consider that proof of wrongdoing. What do you need?

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There was a finding that he paid a Minister £500,000, and supported a loan of almost that amount to the same Minister, who had secured the mobile licence for him.

I would have thought most would consider that proof of wrongdoing. What do you need?

Sounds dodgy.
Couldn't do it unless he was let though.Takes two to tango.
Could be seen as a good business move.

mikemac1

Banjo String wrote: »

Dunno, but it shows you how much of a cnut uncy Denny is, when the journal disables the comments facility.

Isn't that normal when something is progressing through the courts? Daily Mail does the same on their site.

Sure we had it on boards last month and we couldn't comment until Graham Dwyer was sentenced.

I wouldn't reach too much into it

jobeenfitz

Valetta wrote: »

No he can't .

How do you know, for sure?

up for anything

bpb101 wrote: »

all im saying is that brian cowen is now on the board of Denis o'brien owned Topas




( I didnt see applications on jobs.ie for it)

For Forks Sake wrote: »

It's a private company, you don't usually see them advertising online for directors.

No, Topaz advertised it on the Intreo website as an internship, the same as they did deli and sales assistant jobs. Why pay for labour if you don't have to thanks to the government supporting virtual slavery rather than jobs with proper contracts and conditions.

Valetta

jobeenfitz wrote: »

How do you know, for sure?

Same way as I know I couldn't arrange for the gardai to attend anything of my choosing.

And rte can talk about him all they like.

jobeenfitz

Valetta wrote: »

Same way as I know I couldn't arrange for the gardai to attend anything of my choosing.

And rte can talk about him all they like.

The discussion is not about what you could or could not arrange.
We are talking about a man who is a multi billionaire and is very close to power, owns much of the media and has findings against him by a tribunal.

So I say you are just guessing. None of us know as fact what actually goes on at the top for most of the time but going by all the tribunals and enquiries you would want to be very naive to believe powerful people don't influence our government.

Riverireland

jobeenfitz wrote: »

The discussion is not about what you could or could not arrange.
We are talking about a man who is a multi billionaire and is very close to power, owns much of the media and has findings against him by a tribunal.

So I say you are just guessing. None of us know as fact what actually goes on at the top for most of the time but going by all the tribunals and enquiries you would want to be very naive to believe powerful people don't influence our government.

Very very naive indeed!

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

Sounds dodgy.
Couldn't do it unless he was let though.Takes two to tango.

But that would mean wrongdoing by both, as opposed to the no wrongdoing you asserted.

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But that would mean wrongdoing by both, as opposed to the no wrongdoing you asserted.

Was there wrong doing?

smurgen

The more I hear of him the more I'm concerned I am over his stake in irish water. Water is the most precious substance on earth and the demand for clean drinkable water will become greater in the future. We should be protecting it from those that may control the supply of it at all costs.

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

Was there wrong doing?

I referred to it in a previous post.

You read it and commented on it.

It was proven that he paid a Minister £500,000 and that Minister secured him the mobile licence. How would you characterise it?

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I referred to it in a previous post.

You read it and commented on it.

It was proven that he paid a Minister £500,000 and that Minister secured him the mobile licence. How would you characterise it?

I'd put most of the blame with the minister then.
Good business move by DOB.

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

I'd put most of the blame with the minister then.
Good business move by DOB.

A good business move does not preclude wrongdoing. They are not mutually exclusive.

The question is, do you stand over this assertion.

kneemos wrote: »

No wrong doing proven anyway on the Digifone deal...

Hint...it's incorrect...

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A good business move does not preclude wrongdoing. They are not mutually exclusive.

The question is, do you stand over this assertion.



Hint...it's incorrect...

Christ you want me to say you're right.

Bless.

Eugene Norman

kneemos wrote: »

Was there wrong doing?

You mean buying out a government minister to get a contract that should have been awarded elsewhere costing jobs in the process? Yeh.

Banjo String

kneemos wrote: »

Was there wrong doing?

You're obviously bored and are craving engagement, or are genuinely unaware of the moriarty tribunal.

Happy reading, knock.yourself out.

Lowry "secured the winning" of the 1995 mobile licence for O'Brien.

O'Brien made two payments to Lowry in 1996 and 1999 totalling IR£500,000 (GB£147,000 and GB£300,000) and supported a loan of GB£420,000 given to Lowry in 1999, a benefit equivalent to a payment.

Lowry imparted substantive information to O'Brien which was "of significant value and assistance to him in securing the licence".

Lowry bypassed consideration by his Cabinet colleagues and thereby not only influenced, but delivered the result for Esat Digifone

A US$50,000 donation to Fine Gael was made through Telenor on behalf of Esat Digifone

Lowry sought to influence a hike in the lease for Marlborough House (Telecom Eireann headquarters) following a request from Mr Dunne. These rent increases would have improperly enriched Dunne, and were deemed to be "profoundly corrupt".

Lowry was criticised for his "cynical and venal abuse of office" and his brazen refusal to acknowledge the impropriety of his financial arrangements with O'Brien and Dunne.[/list]

http://www.moriarty-tribunal.ie/asp/index.asp?ObjectID=636&Mode=0&RecordID=399

Eugene Norman

kneemos wrote: »

I'd put most of the blame with the minister then.
Good business move by DOB.

Good as in corrupt. Mother Ireland is rearing them yet.

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

Christ you want me to say you're right.

Bless.

Not at all. I'm am merely referring to your assertion that there was no wrongdoing when a Tribunal made very damning findings. I'm not giving an opinion here, there was a decision that you seem determined to ignore.

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not at all. I'm am merely referring to your assertion that there was no wrongdoing when a Tribunal made very damning findings. I'm not giving an opinion here, there was a decision that you seem determined to ignore.

Haven't ignored it.Said the minister was mostly to blame.
Can't really blame a shrewd business man for gaining an edge in that cut throat world.

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

Haven't ignored it.Said the minister was mostly to blame.
Can't really blame a shrewd business man for gaining an edge in that cut throat world.

When the Tribunal concluded that there were payments made, it did not allocate blame between the briber and bribee. Clearly both did wrong.

LDN_Irish

jobeenfitz wrote: »

The discussion is not about what you could or could not arrange.
We are talking about a man who is a multi billionaire and is very close to power, owns much of the media and has findings against him by a tribunal.

So I say you are just guessing. None of us know as fact what actually goes on at the top for most of the time but going by all the tribunals and enquiries you would want to be very naive to believe powerful people don't influence our government.

You're full of sh!t bro. Denis can't own much of the media.

Source: I can't, so he mustn't be able to either.

foxtrot101

kneemos wrote: »

Can't really blame a shrewd business man for gaining an edge in that cut throat world.

Yes, you can. It is an offence to offer an undue reward to, or receive an undue reward from, a public official in order to influence that person in the exercise of his or her duties in that office contrary to the rules of honesty and integrity.

renegademaster

I look forward to seeing RTEs show now

Birneybau

LDN_Irish wrote: »

You're full of sh!t bro. Denis can't own much of the media.

Source: I can't, so he mustn't be able to either.

Are you for fcuking real?

Eugene Norman

Birneybau wrote: »

Are you for fcuking real?

Or he's being sarcastic.

LDN_Irish

Birneybau wrote: »

Are you for fcuking real?

Not spotting sarcasm level: American

Capt'n Midnight

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/05/01/denis-obrien-to-sue-everyone/

FOLLOWING legal proceedings undertaken by voiceless billionaire Denis O’Brien against both RTÉ and the Sunday Business Post comes news that the Digicel kingpin is set to sue absolutely everyone.

“We’re particularly targeting people who have had negative thoughts about Denis in their head but have never uttered them in a public forum,” O’Brien chief counsel Damien Byrd told WWN.

“It’s hard to prove, but being sued by Denis O’Brien isn’t without its advantages. If this is your 5th time having legal action taken against you, you qualify for a free coffee at any Topaz service station,” added Byrd.

Cold War Kid

What's the Pravda thing about?

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

so he owns most of the media and gags the rest

scary stuff when you actually think about it

In 2007 he owned NewsTalk, 98FM and Spin.
The EMAP portfolio of Today FM/FM104 were up for sale and he made a bid. It was assumed he had no chance because of owning stations that were in direct competition with them.
Well, that certainly showed us...

http://www.finfacts.ie/irelandbusinessnews/publish/article_1010600.shtml

renegademaster

Cold War Kid wrote: »

In 2007 he owned NewsTalk, 98FM and Spin.
The EMAP portfolio of Today FM/FM104 were up for sale and he made a bid. It was assumed he had no chance because of owning stations that were in direct competition with them.
Well, that certainly showed us...

http://www.finfacts.ie/irelandbusinessnews/publish/article_1010600.shtml

So he banks with the rothchilds!! Says it all really

Phoebas

renegademaster wrote: »

So he banks with the rothchilds!! Says it all really

They supply all of his cats for stroking too. :mad:

JustTheOne

Jesus some people have scary obsessions with this chap.

renegademaster

JustTheOne wrote: »

Jesus some people have scary obsessions with this chap.

I'm more concerned with those who repeatedly state they don't care a damn, no matter the subject or history involved. Not saying you're one of them, are you one of them?