International cricket thread

MFPM

A good win for Ireland over the Netherlands after a poor performance on Monday...1-1 with the decider on Monday.

MFPM

Not sure how the umpire didn't give that out first time, even I could see it was out! Pope gone, England 140/4.

MFPM

Lawrence out for a duck, poor shot. NZ making serious inroads now. If they could clean England up quickly they could force a win but a draw still the favourite I think with the loss of play yesterday.

MFPM

NZ motoring now. England 140/6..

Gillespy

By right this should end a draw after losing a day and a good pitch. England arent a reliable batting side though. Always a collapse waiting to happen. New Zealand big favourites now.

VillaMad

A superb knock by Rory Burns got England up to 275. New Zealand ahead by 103. All up to them now whether they try to accelerate and give England something like 300 to chase over 2 sessions. A draw is still highly likely at this stage.

Gillespy

Valuable runs by the last wicket pair. And time eaten up too.

So close to seeing two openers carrying their bat. Pity they couldn't do it. Pitch isn't looking so flat anymore. New ball finding the glove more than the middle of the bat it seems.

Strumms

Gillespy wrote: »

By right this should end a draw after losing a day and a good pitch. England arent a reliable batting side though. Always a collapse waiting to happen. New Zealand big favourites now.

NZ scoring at around 1.75 per over... no winner in this unless something dramatic happens...

Bit too conservative by the black caps... should have got in and pushed on... put a bit of pressure on England..... try get a 270 lead and put england in tomorrow afternoon and see..

MFPM

Strumms wrote: »

NZ scoring at around 1.75 per over... no winner in this unless something dramatic happens...

Bit too conservative by the black caps... should have got in and pushed on... put a bit of pressure on England..... try get a 270 lead and put england in tomorrow afternoon and see..

Don't think that's Williamson's style, it's a pity, there's only two results really possible so England can't win realistically.

Strumms

Some bowling by Robinson..

Taken 2 wickets and conceded 6 runs in 7 overs.

Yep Williamson is a reasonably conservative Captain.

Strumms

Strumms wrote: »

Some bowling by Robinson..

Taken 2 wickets and conceded 6 runs in 7 overs.

Yep Williamson is a reasonably conservative Captain.

I dunno about that. Plenty of times I have seen NZ try to make a game of it rather than take a guaranteed draw. England bowlers are bowling well, no point taking unnecessary risk.

Gillespy

NZ had no option but respect the bowling today. It was relentlessly good and the game was too in the balance with only a lead of 100 odd.

Still time left with plenty happening. Variable bounce will make Jamieson and Wagner even more dangerous. Santner turned a few too. England are too fragile batting to confidently say they can bat two sessions on the last day here.

Strumms

So far, on average there are only 5 or so wickets a day falling in this test...

Historically the pitch at Lords doesn’t play too much of a part regardless of the type of bowling in the outcome of matches but it’s looking flat and slow.

You get little to no sideways movement off the pitch at Lords but you will get inconsistent bounce late on day four and on day five, batsmen don’t mind that too much in this situation where they are just looking to defend... sideways movement off the pitch is the challenging aspect but little to none at Lords.

Strumms

English lads take one wicket, then a catch all be it a difficult one put down and their last review burned on an lbw shout from what was a delivery that hit the pad about 8 inches outside of leg stump... Root seemed convinced it had a chance. A few overs later Anderson appeals for LBW but the umpire turns him down... replay shows it was hitting and was out, Root burned the review.

Root, Mr Conservative... needs wickets... what field does he set ? ONE slip, nobody around the bat at short leg or anywhere for that matter. Anderson bowling to ZERO slips, zero short leg, wtf...

Wood takes a wicket with a good delivery.

MFPM

It'd be great if Williamson declared over lunch or get to 300 and then declare. Highly unlikely that England batting lineup would get the runs but they may be tempted to go for it and NZ end up winning...That said the draw is the overwhelmingly likely result.

Edit: NZ just declared..England need 273 to win!

MFPM

MFPM wrote: »

It'd be great if Williamson declared over lunch or get to 300 and then declare. Highly unlikely that England batting lineup would get the runs but they may be tempted to go for it and NZ end up winning...That said the draw is the overwhelmingly likely result.

Edit: NZ just declared..England need 273 to win!

Not looking like they're even going to attempt to get there. Disappointing.

Strumms

14 runs off 58 deliveries. Great, pointless.

A run rate of 1.4.

Strumms

Need 5.1 runs an over from here on in by my maths.

Might as well go for it, they have the 10 wickets in hand. Both openers ‘in’... a crowd have paid in to be entertained... sky subscribers and cricket watchers / lovers want to be entertained, they can’t really loose at this stage...ffs.

Strumms

Two NZ bowlers having bowled ten overs each have an economy rate of less then 1 run...

Root needs a kick in the cerebellum.

Root 4 (27)
Sibley 26 (111)

Jaimeson 0.8 runs an over
Wagner 0.9 runs an over

Overall run rate 1.6

MFPM

Disappointing final day. When NZ declared England needed 3 per over, very gettable even in Test Cricket but they made no effort to chase. I wonder if Buttler and Stokes were present would they have gone for it more, of course the argument could also be made that NZ wouldn't have dangled such a tantalising carrot if both of those were present.

Gillespy

It is ridiculous expecting Sibley and Burns to bat any different than they always do. Against top quality bowlers with the new ball you just can't do it. Can't cheat the game. England still lost two early wickets batting conservatively.

Root couldn't affort a stupid loss today for many reasons. Good sides have to be able to bat out the last day to have any hope of winning series. Thats something England have been awful at since Strauss was captain.

Strumms

Its not rediculous...They are international cricketers. They should be of the ability to perform to whatever match circumstances / situations are present. They didnt give it a shot. Unsat.

Cant cheat the game but you can play with ambition and positivity... wickets in hand.. they didnt try..

Gillespy

Try and be 80-4 or something. Then decide to shut up shop and let Bracey and Lawrence bat out the overs. T20 cricket has lowered the discussion in test match cricket. All run rate all the time. It was a fanciful idea that chase was ever achievable even if Stokes and the rest were playing. History of the game shows that.

Strumms

Why try be 80-4 ? They were 80-2... they needed to kick on from there but didn’t
.. Even at 80-4 there is enough batting in the English team to ensure a draw.... there was ZERO in the pitch for the bowlers aside from the odd short one misbehaving but they were ducking those mostly...

It took Dom Sibley 85 deliveries to get 20 runs as an opener...that’s a joke, on a pitch with nada for the bowlers. After 85 you should have your 50 wrapped up or close.

The bowling figures in terms of economy made an absolute laugh of the English tactics.

MFPM

Another poor enough batting performance by Ireland in the 3rd ODI V Netherlands. All out for 163 with 4 balls still remaining - it's unforgivable to not see out the 50 overs. The Netherlands need 3.14 per over, currently 29/0 off 7 so well on target.

MFPM

The Netherlands cruising here...35 needed off 15.4 overs, 7 wickets in hand.

Strumms

MFPM wrote: »

Another poor enough batting performance by Ireland in the 3rd ODI V Netherlands. All out for 163 with 4 balls still remaining - it's unforgivable to not see out the 50 overs. The Netherlands need 3.14 per over, currently 29/0 off 7 so well on target.

Even worse is to bat 49.2 overs and score only 163 runs...

MFPM

Strumms wrote: »

Even worse is to bat 49.2 overs and score only 163 runs...

True!

MFPM

Ireland's qualification for the 2023 Men's World Cup looking increasingly unlikely unless they go on a serious winning streak which they really don't seem capable of.

delta_bravo

MFPM wrote: »

Ireland's qualification for the 2023 Men's World Cup looking increasingly unlikely unless they go on a serious winning steeak which they really don't seem capable of.

Based on what I've seen of them they should be more concerned about finishing last than anything. They seem to have regressed so much even since that win against England.