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General Elections. The Constituency of Tipperary

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    #1592
    hblock21
    Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭hblock21


    darragh o meara wrote: »
    We’ll soon find out, she’s just been eliminated. My guessing is that there won’t be as much as we’d expect going to him, my taking if it is that she was a bit pissed off with him getting a bit more support than her so can’t see her having pushed hard for her supporters to give him the no.2

    He got just 197 from her !!


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    #1593
    Choc Chip
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    hblock21 wrote: »
    He got just 197 from her !!

    he got over 3.5k according to tipp live?


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    #1594
    jlm29
    Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    Choc Chip wrote: »
    he got over 3.5k according to tipp live?

    He definitely got that much looking at the RTÉ website. There’s around 1500 between him and Browne now, but Healy eliminated. I would guess that healys transfers would get Mattie across the line, and probably be good to Browne also?


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    #1595
    davidk1394
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    Mattie and Browne are in


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    #1596
    Itssoeasy
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    I mean how one constituency can elect both Mattie McGrath and Michael Lowry is beyond me.


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    #1597
    davidk1394
    Registered Users Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I mean how one constituency can elect both Mattie McGrath and Michael Lowry is beyond me.

    Their so crooked their straight


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    #1598
    Dymo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭Dymo


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I mean how one constituency can elect both Mattie McGrath and Michael Lowry is beyond me.

    Are you basing this on the work they do in the community?


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    #1599
    elperello
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    I guess that leaves AK as the only real statesman in Tipperary.


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    #1600
    realdanbreen
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    Expunge wrote: »
    True enough.
    (except maybe in the case of Sinn Fein this time, a wheelie bin with a SF sticker on it would have done well in most constituencies)

    In this case a wheelie bin would be more useful!


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    #1601
    Pogue eile
    Registered Users Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    In this case a wheelie bin would be more useful!

    Consdiering your political 'analysis' and insight over the last few days, I think I'll judge the man on what he does in his elected term, god knows enough FG/FF stooges have been given the opportunity. Of the three candidates elected to date he certainly has the cleanest copy book before he starts!


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    #1602
    realdanbreen
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    Pogue eile wrote: »
    Consdiering your political 'analysis' and insight over the last few days, I think I'll judge the man on what he does in his elected term, god knows enough FG/FF stooges have been given the opportunity. Of the three candidates elected to date he certainly has the cleanest copy book before he starts!


    Apart from organising a few darts tournaments what has he ever done?
    He is unemployed in an era of full employment and couldn't even get elected to the County Council !


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    #1603
    shmeee
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭shmeee


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Apart from organising a few darts tournaments what has he ever done?
    He is unemployed in an era of full employment and couldn't even get elected to the County Council !

    He got the mention of the darts in there on his radio interview! :rolleyes:


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    #1604
    History Queen
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    Lost sight of things for a few hours. Is it the surplus votes being redistributed at the moment?


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    #1605
    shmeee
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    History Queen wrote: »
    Lost sight of things for a few hours. Is it the surplus votes being redistributed at the moment?

    Yes. 1495 from Mattie as it can still get a candidate over the line.

    But it's as good as over now with Cahill and Kelly following Lowry, Mattie and Browne in.

    2nd Seat: Mattie 15127
    3rd Seat: Browne 14046

    Kelly 12773
    Cahill 12535
    Ahearn 11086


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    History Queen
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    shmeee wrote: »
    Yes. 1495 from Mattie as it can still get a candidate over the line.

    But it's as good as over now with Cahill and Kelly following Lowry, Mattie and Browne in.

    2nd Seat: Mattie 15127
    3rd Seat: Browne 14046

    Kelly 12773
    Cahill 12535
    Ahearn 11086

    And even though the top 5 are clear would candidate 6's (Aherne's) votes be redistributed just for the sake of deciding order of seats gained?


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    #1607
    Pogue eile
    Registered Users Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Apart from organising a few darts tournaments what has he ever done?
    He is unemployed in an era of full employment and couldn't even get elected to the County Council !

    He was elected to the Council and served there for 5 years before the election last May, please don't comment on something you clearly know nothing about.


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    #1608
    shmeee
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭shmeee


    History Queen wrote: »
    And even though the top 5 are clear would candidate 6's (Aherne's) votes be redistributed just for the sake of deciding order of seats gained?

    No.

    Final count and Kelly and Cahill get in 4th and 5th therefore.

    Count 9:

    A Kelly 449 (13,222)
    J Cahill 404 (12,939)
    G Ahearn 413 (11,499)


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    #1609
    realdanbreen
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    Pogue eile wrote: »
    He was elected to the Council and served there for 5 years before the election last May, please don't comment on something you clearly know nothing about.

    And then what, took a break from work for 7 months because he was exhausted!


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    #1610
    Pogue eile
    Registered Users Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    And then what, took a break from work for 7 months because he was exhausted!

    Again it is clear you have no idea who he is or what he does so please stop digging. He lost his seat last may, as did 78 Sinn Fein councillors, unlike other parties they actually took notice of this and went about addressing it, but that's another days work! So Martin who is 55 and has a grown up family decided to take a step back and became what you might call a public activist, he has been invloved with Homeless Ireland, TUI, Focus Ireland etc.

    He first came to my attention about ten years ago when he was Mayor of Cashel and he became the first elected Sinn Fein member to officialy meet with the Queen and welcome here to Cashel when She came to visit the Rock of Cashel, he is a very good example of a progessive Sinn Fein.

    The fact that the person wo topped the poll is a convicted criminal and you feel the need to cast aspertions over a man you clearly know nothing about says it all really.


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    #1611
    shmeee
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭shmeee


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    And then what, took a break from work for 7 months because he was exhausted!

    Martin Browne in 2018 on his Council Job when asked about the rate of pay:

    “..On my own behalf I’d welcome an increase, as I depend solely on the income from the council. I think an increase up to maybe €500pw would reflect the hours which Cllr’s put into doing their work. In my opinion it would help level the field for all Cllr’s.

    It needs to be clarified if Cllr’s would now be classed as in a full time and what that would entail as far as social welfare and pensions are concerned. I accept that while it would suit me and my circumstances it probably won’t suit anyone who is in full time employment at present.

    With this rise if it comes there needs to be a change in the attitude of some people who are not very good time keepers, if it’s a full time job cllrs will have to clock in at meetings and stay for the full meeting, if it comes in the allowance for been chair of the full or plenary councils and some of the SPCs should be done away with.”





    Over 100k a year salary on route now!!!


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    #1612
    Pogue eile
    Registered Users Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    shmeee wrote: »




    Over 100k a year salary on route now!!!

    Begod Sinn Fein are the most affective party in the history of the state so, not 24 hours after the election and not in government yet and they have increased the average industrial wage to 100K, good going to be fair!


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    #1613
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Pogue eile wrote: »
    Again it is clear you have no idea who he is or what he does so please stop digging. He lost his seat last may, as did 78 Sinn Fein councillors, unlike other parties they actually took notice of this and went about addressing it, but that's another days work! So Martin who is 55 and has a grown up family decided to take a step back and became what you might call a public activist, he has been invloved with Homeless Ireland, TUI, Focus Ireland etc.

    He first came to my attention about ten years ago when he was Mayor of Cashel and he became the first elected Sinn Fein member to officialy meet with the Queen and welcome here to Cashel when She came to visit the Rock of Cashel, he is a very good example of a progessive Sinn Fein.

    The fact that the person wo topped the poll is a convicted criminal and you feel the need to cast aspertions over a man you clearly know nothing about says it all really.

    Glowing testament there from you. Although maybe you should check out what his former SF colleague Seamie Morris thinks of him.


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    #1614
    shmeee
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭shmeee


    Pogue eile wrote: »
    Begod Sinn Fein are the most affective party in the history of the state so, not 24 hours after the election and not in government yet and they have increased the average industrial wage to 100K, good going to be fair!

    Will Martin take the full lot or be happy with the 40k like SF want you to do and donate the rest to help the party.

    Dessie Ellis took hand and all, didn't give back a crumb even.


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    #1615
    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    Pogue eile wrote: »
    Again it is clear you have no idea who he is or what he does so please stop digging. He lost his seat last may, as did 78 Sinn Fein councillors, unlike other parties they actually took notice of this and went about addressing it, but that's another days work! So Martin who is 55 and has a grown up family decided to take a step back and became what you might call a public activist, he has been invloved with Homeless Ireland, TUI, Focus Ireland etc.

    He first came to my attention about ten years ago when he was Mayor of Cashel and he became the first elected Sinn Fein member to officialy meet with the Queen and welcome here to Cashel when She came to visit the Rock of Cashel, he is a very good example of a progessive Sinn Fein.

    The fact that the person wo topped the poll is a convicted criminal and you feel the need to cast aspertions over a man you clearly know nothing about says it all really.
    He protested when the queen visited Cashel. Confirmed this on Tipp FM today

    It was Michael Browne who met the queen


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    #1616
    Pogue eile
    Registered Users Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Glowing testament there from you. Although maybe you should check out what his former SF colleague Seamie Morris thinks of him.

    Seamie who was thrown out of the party? No thanks I'll see what the 10,000 plus who voted for him think after his term is served, could be a complete disaster or could be a breath of fresh air - that's the beaut of democracy, but to declare that, efore he has even taken up office, heis less useful than a wheelie bin is the type of point scoring, thrash politics that FF/FG tried against SF for the last few weeks and failed miserably.


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    #1617
    Pogue eile
    Registered Users Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭Pogue eile


    Alexia Beautiful Baton wrote: »
    He protested when the queen visited Cashel. Confirmed this on Tipp FM today

    That was his brother, pleny of pictures of him and Alan Kelly greeting her and Prince Philip at the Rock, google it!


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    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    Pogue eile wrote: »
    That was his brother, pleny of pictures of him and Alan Kelly greeting her and Prince Philip at the Rock, google it!

    I googled it and found

    https://www.tipperarylive.ie/news/your-community/121110/Death-of-former-Sinn-Fein-mayor.html

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sf-mayor-takes-the-hand-of-royalty-26735408.html
    "During the visit a small Sinn Fein protest -- led by Mr Browne's brother, Martin Browne -- was held in the town".


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    #1619
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Pogue eile wrote: »
    Seamie who was thrown out of the party? No thanks I'll see what the 10,000 plus who voted for him think after his term is served, could be a complete disaster or could be a breath of fresh air - that's the beaut of democracy, but to declare that, efore he has even taken up office, heis less useful than a wheelie bin is the type of point scoring, thrash politics that FF/FG tried against SF for the last few weeks and failed miserably.
    Judging by the way SF are already quaking at the prospect of being in government and having to be responsible for Health, Housing etc I’d say it might not be long before Martin has to go again!


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    80j2lc5y7u6qs9
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Judging by the way SF are already quaking at the prospect of being in government and having to be responsible for Health, Housing etc I’d say it might not be long before Martin has to go again!
    could you elaborate, i have not heard.


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    #1621
    mahoney_j
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    Pogue eile wrote: »
    He was elected to the Council and served there for 5 years before the election last May, please don't comment on something you clearly know nothing about.

    He wasn’t elected he is now as a td but don’t know how anyone outside sf can say the vote was for the party not the candidate ,this will have been repeated many times around the country .they got in now let’s see how they do with the reality of power and running a country I snd lots of others will be watching on to see will they follow thru on all there promises .lots of foreign multi nationals and doctors I’d say will be looking for an out


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