Bellator/WSOF/One FC etc events Thread

Devastator

DrPhilG wrote: »

Agreed.

They are in the best position to challenge the UFC's dominance, yet Coker just can't resist this kind of BS.

It just makes my mind go back to earlier in this thread(or another thread ) why the likes of Bendo, or any other self respecting fighter, would actually fight under their banner. The money can't be that much better to fight for them surely? I just hope nobody is seriously injured or worse because of the way it is being run/promoted or it will set the sport back years upon years

Gamebred

Kimbo v dada doesnt deserve to be on tv it should be in a slum some where its not an mma fight,royce and shamrock are only fighting for the pay cheque cant blame them its a fair fight,Ill be watching it anyways on friday so I cant slate it.

Lukker-

Gamebred wrote: »

Kimbo v dada doesnt deserve to be on tv it should be in a slum some where its not an mma fight,royce and shamrock are only fighting for the pay cheque cant blame them its a fair fight,Ill be watching it anyways on friday so I cant slate it.

I guarantee the Kimbo vs Dada fight will be more entertaining, at least they'll actually try and fight.

Shamrock has been knocked out in 9 of his last 14 fights, but he's up against someone who can't strike at all. Royce Gracie was found out after everyone learned the fundamentals of BJJ.

Since then, anyone half decent at MMA has destroyed him. He's also a massive twat.

I wonder will it go down as the most boring fight of all time like their second fight?

Mellor

Lukker- wrote: »

Royce Gracie was found out after everyone learned the fundamentals of BJJ.

Since then, anyone half decent at MMA has destroyed him. He's also a massive twat.

I agree that he's a massive twat. But not too sure what you mean by found out by fundamentals of bjj.
He only had two losses (officially), Matt Huges and Sakuruba.
His fights were all exactly high level, but that was standard in the 90s.

Lukker-

Mellor wrote: »

I agree that he's a massive twat. But not too sure what you mean by found out by fundamentals of bjj.
He only had two losses (officially), Matt Huges and Sakuruba.
His fights were all exactly high level, but that was standard in the 90s.

Yeah sorry I meant to sayany half decent well rounded fighter would beat him.

In the 90's he outclassed everyone. No doubt, his BJJ changed the game.

When he came back 5 years later though the game had move on. He insisted on moving the goal posts to take fights and insisting on weird rule-sets that suited himself.

The only well rounded mixed martial artists that he beat were Sakuraba (juiced to the gills and he didn't even win the fight imo) and Shamrock.

The vast majority of people he beat in his early MMA days did not fight again after or if they did had awful records.

Mellor

Lukker- wrote: »

When he came back 5 years later though the game had move on. He insisted on moving the goal posts to take fights and insisting on weird rule-sets that suited himself.

No judges or something to that effect. I'm not sure what the logic was there.
He absolutely fought a load of cans though. For all the nostalgia people have about Pride, there was an awful lot of nonsense fights put on.

The vast majority of people he beat in his early MMA days did not fight again after or if they did had awful records.

Yeah, such was the standard in UFC 1-5. Only a handful of actual fighters. I'm fairly confident I'd have beat Art Jimmerson with about as much difficultly as Royce.

Royce in his prime would get smoked by a random UFC lightweight today. I doubt he'd get very far in BJJ world championships either. Both games have moved on significnatly

cletus

Really, you can only view Royce's fights in light of the era they happened. Hughes, Couture, Liddell would all be soundly beaten in their respective weight classes today. The game has moved on. The only caveat here, I think, is the rumour that Aleks Karelian was deliberately not invited to participate in the first UFC. Apart from that, Royce fought anybody put in front of him

Re Pride, the mismatches just added to the general air of craziness the Japanese brought to mma. I agree that a lot of those fights don't stand up to viewing now, but at the time it was all part of the excitement

Matt986

So, how are we watching Bellator 149 tonight? I've never watched it before, but really want to this time. Is that link in the opening post for all the event?

Devastator

Matt986 wrote: »

So, how are we watching Bellator 149 tonight? I've never watched it before, but really want to this time. Is that link in the opening post for all the event?

doubt it, that link is nearly a year old. Google for streams tonight just before the event starts

cletus

Am I losing my marbles in my old age, or was Spike TV showing Bellator at one stage?

Matt986

cletus wrote: »

Am I losing my marbles in my old age, or was Spike TV showing Bellator at one stage?

It was and it is. But as far as I'm aware, we don't get that channel here in Ireland.

Subcomandante Marcos

cletus wrote: »

Am I losing my marbles in my old age, or was Spike TV showing Bellator at one stage?

Spike in the US show Bellator live, it's owned by Univision who also own Bellator.

Spike in the UK is available in the "other channels" list on sky in Ireland but they don't show it live, they might show it later in the week though.

Spike UK do show BAMMA live.

Devastator

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Spike in the US show Bellator live, it's owned by Univision who also own Bellator.

Spike in the UK is available in the "other channels" list on sky in Ireland but they don't show it live, they might show it later in the week though.

Spike UK do show BAMMA live.

I always forget about spike tv because I only get it through freeview and it means connecting an indoor aerial for it. Probably no point looking it up for next weeks BAMMA as I'll try and watch the boxing instead

Matt986

They are showing it on the U.K. version of Spike tomorrow at 10pm. As for tonight. Not sure yet where to see it live. http://www.tvguide.co.uk/m-detail/2304891/115348670/spike-fight-night-bellator-149

cletus

Well if any kind soul would like to shoot me q pm to chat about...ahem...viewing the aforementioned event I would be eternally grateful (or at the very least grateful up to the point I go insane, blind or both from watching the main event)

nocoverart

Anybody who has BoxNation, they're showing M-1 Global right now.

Devastator

nocoverart wrote: »

Anybody who has BoxNation, they're showing M-1 Global right now.

nice surprise, cheers, and refreshing to watch boxnation without bunce screaming over everything They should really consider moving 1 of their cameramen instead of having both facing eachother, if 1 has a bad angle the other is probably the same, move 1 of them round a bit on their polygon(?)

The audio is bit crap aswell, can't hear anything from the crowd hardly

nocoverart

Devastator wrote: »

nice surprise, cheers, and refreshing to watch boxnation without bunce screaming over everything They should really consider moving 1 of their cameramen instead of having both facing eachother, if 1 has a bad angle the other is probably the same, move 1 of them round a bit on their polygon(?)

The audio is bit crap aswell, can't hear anything from the crowd hardly

Yeah, a bit of a weird set-up all round. Isn't this the promotion that had them crazy medieval fights? that sh1t was hilarious.

califano

cletus wrote: »

Am I losing my marbles in my old age, or was Spike TV showing Bellator at one stage?

Matt986 wrote: »

It was and it is. But as far as I'm aware, we don't get that channel here in Ireland.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Spike in the US show Bellator live, it's owned by Univision who also own Bellator.

Spike in the UK is available in the "other channels" list on sky in Ireland but they don't show it live, they might show it later in the week though.

Spike UK do show BAMMA live.

SPIKE USA(Other channels)
10.964
H
22.000
5/6

You can watch it but cant record other channels

Dtp1979

califano wrote: »

SPIKE USA(Other channels)
10.964
H
22.000
5/6

You can watch it but cant record other channels

Any idea when they are showing the next event?

ASOT

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Any idea when they are showing the next event?

Bellator is in tonight.

Paully D

http://www.mmamania.com/2016/2/19/11060010/kimbo-slice-vs-dada-5000-odds-massive-shift-three-to-four-guys-bet-sportsbook-las-vegas-mma

"Spoke to manager at LV Sportsbook in Vegas, betting line for Kimbo Slice moved from -360 to pick today. According to book manager, 'three to four guys' walked in and bet the limit about 20 times. 'Just kept firing on the dog over and over.' For a Bellator fight, LV Sportsbook has taken in 'an unheard of amount of money' according to the manager. Another round of bets on Dada5000 by same 3-4 individuals at LV Superbook takes the Slice line back to a pick-em right now. Wow."

Sounds legit :rolleyes:

Dtp1979

ASOT wrote: »

Bellator is in tonight.

I mean are they actually showing it tonight and if so, what time?

Paully D

That cut. :eek:

tramoreman77

Any streaming sites for ipad

Gamebred

califano wrote: »

SPIKE USA(Other channels)
10.964
H
22.000
5/6

You can watch it but cant record other channels

This doesnt work wrong spike.

Dtp1979

Gamebred wrote: »

This doesnt work wrong spike.

You watching Valkyrie too?

Subcomandante Marcos

Justin Wren has a great back story. Hopefully he wins.

Gamebred

Dtp1979 wrote: »

You watching Valkyrie too?

Yeah thats whats on,trying to find a stream of spike on my android box,all to watch a few 50 year olds fight and 2 miami hood stars,what a time to be alive.

Subcomandante Marcos

Gamebred wrote: »

Yeah thats whats on,trying to find a stream of spike on my android box,all to watch a few 50 year olds fight and 2 miami hood stars,what a time to be alive.

Mobdro app is good.