Mart Price Tracker

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121746947#Comment_121746947

Yes sir. Sorry sir. Won’t happen again sir.

Mf 265

No need to get so narky , that person is right then cattle had teriible kill outs, should have went to mart with them.

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747202#Comment_121747202

Those cattle left me a margin I’m happy with.

I know what they’d have left me if I brought them to the mart and it wouldn’t have been as much as the factory in this case.

We’re all posting on here to ask questions and to try to help others. I don’t mind any criticism whatsoever - I’d post nothing if I did. But why just insult someone out of the blue?

If I wanted that I’d go to Twitter or Facebook. Or the local S&M club 😂

limo_100

As long as you’re happy that’s all that matters. What age were them heifers? And would they have being roughly 550 live weight when slaughtered ?

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747202#Comment_121747202

Quick q do you finish cattle and have you finished dairy bred stock. Carcase weight at back this year mainly due to the very wet weather last year.

Mf 265

No i dont finish cattle, I keep cows and sell my calves as wealings. I ment no offence to any1, just seemed extremely bad weights, hard to see how you could make money at them weights but if he is happy with them fair play to him

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747679#Comment_121747679

Turning dairy bred stock is very different to suckler stock. Prime example was this week here with 2 heifers. A bucket fed aa and a 20 month suckler aux.

Aax 240.2kg o=3= was 486kg going into the trailer at 23 months

Aux 296kg R=3- was 536kg going into the trailer at 20 months.

Kill out % are back a lot with dairy bred stock. Hoovering above and below 50%.

Yes I would love more weight, but it comes at a cost in ration and feed and those AaX can jump fat grades in a matter of days. The above is an example of a heifer out of a 1st Calver. I would consider them weights that @siblers@Siamsa Sessions had for sub 22month dairy AA as very good.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747202#Comment_121747202

They might not have been finished to what you or @1848 taught. However they achieved both the AA and QA bonus. When he sold them its unlikely he would have done any better in the mart.

For nine months of the year you are as well or better off going to the factory than the mart if you are QA and in the scheme with AA or HE cattle. There are short periods in between when you ate better off in the mart. When at that you need to know your killout off the mart you go to..

The reason I asked @Siamsa Sessions fir the grades and FS was to see if he should send the ones he had now to the factory. I presume now he is judging them off the previous bunch so ya he should go to the mart but he should be prepared to take them home unless he is getting 2.65-2.75/kg minimum off fresh weight at home

God only knows how a mart scales works

grass10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747801#Comment_121747801

Your aa had a very good kill out % given her live weight my experience of aa and HD heifers out of a shed with live weight of 550 to 620 kg will usually give from 48 % to max 51 % with fat score approx 3+ and this is based from a good few years finishing cattle all would be dairy bred

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747584#Comment_121747584

They were 21-22 months, gone before Xmas. And yes, they’d have been 550-560kg live weight.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747679#Comment_121747679

They cost me approx €900 including purchase and were killed at €5.35/kg including breed and QA bonus.

Dairy-cross animals are different as was said above. Sorry if I came across narky. It wasn’t the intention. I’ve turned the other cheek about 6 times today and the 7th person flicked my switch.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747859#Comment_121747859

Yes, I’ll be bring them home if they don’t make that. Took me a while but I’m learning something from you 👍

Mf 265

Best of luck I mart with them, 🤞

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747925#Comment_121747925

Where you hope with slightly underfinished AA/HE stock is that butchers will push the feedlots and lads around the ring to a better than factory price or that a factory buyer will pay finished price for them. Even with all the hype about price I still see semi finished and finished cattle ( mostly cows) making less than factory price.

As well lads forget that if you are working you need to take a day's holidays and hang around the mart for 4-6 hours. If you ate paying for transport it's another 10+ to bring them home and you then have to go to the factory

Gudstock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747033#Comment_121747033

Plain/average suckler bred bulls making a bit with e3 per kilo. To get e4/kg most likely need bulls to be good golden charolais type, e/u grade blues and muscly red limos.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121748077#Comment_121748077

Thanks i have u grade yellow ch prob make somewhere between 3-4 a kg if I’m lucky. But what I was wondering is have they peaked or will they be still good in mid March?

tanko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121747033#Comment_121747033

If it’s Adam Woods i wouldn't take much notice, he only seems to see the dearest animal in the mart sold. Cattle aren’t just as dear as this time last year imo, cows and weanling bulls aren’t anyway.

I sold some Limx bulls last week, 360kgs €1240, weren’t the best ones in the world but nice enough. You’d imagine the trade should hold up especially if it ever stops raining at some stage but who knows. I think i’d sell them now if they were mine.

Dunedin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121748097#Comment_121748097

I’d chance them until mid March/April Grass buyers will be out and are a great customer. The current wet weather will put off a lot of buyers at the minute.

Butcher Boy

A nice bunch of AA blks 310kgs made 1050 in skibbereen today. Nice money me thinks.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121748161#Comment_121748161

It will stop raining at some stage, rain is the difference between this and last year. Last winter was dry and mild plenty of grass that was able to be grazed this time last year, I was starting to let cattle out, it will be 2-3 weeks more at least this year, plenty of grass but ground conditions too poor.

They would not be the type I would buy this time of year but I would expect them to hold whether they rise further is questionable

Gudstock

I'd sell now, 450kg plus good suckler bulls going into a finishers shed I'd say, not for grass buyers. The lighter ones too if not for export will go for bull finishing too so not out again.

kk.man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121748097#Comment_121748097

According to the rag this week Turkey is looking for 600k weanlings...that's some amount... cattle won't be cheap for a while yet.

@Siamsa Sessions fair play on those cattle...you would have got less in the marts... every person should know their margin and people's circumstances differ fodder/housing etc.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121748258#Comment_121748258

What kind of weanlings do turkey normally purchase? continental cattle?

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121748251#Comment_121748251

Yeah I was debating about finished them as well but don't have enough of the heavier ones so probably better to sell them

dohc turbo2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121748387#Comment_121748387

Halliseys be buying red limo and golden and white Ch for turkey ,

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121748426#Comment_121748426

That's good great to see a trade for quality cattle, have they started buying yet?

1848

Regarding margin, I aim for €1/day for every day on the farm based on sale price less purchase price & allow for direct costs - feed, fertilizer, vet, transport & commission, contractor. With the way inflation has gone the €1/day should probably be revised upwards.

patsy_mccabe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121748426#Comment_121748426

Is that a new departure for that trade. I thought Turkey took the plainer types all along.

cute geoge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121741939#Comment_121741939

Could you keep of one of the comrade heifers out of a bunch and grass them up till there 30 months and factory then and see how margin compares to selling now for experiment ,I always feel dairy xcattle need time and really thrive on the 3rd summer .I have seen hereford go from o- to R- might be extreme case

kk.man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121749094#Comment_121749094

Oh they would thrive and grade better but think of the dairy calf buyer ...he/she might not have the sheds plus I think the margin is much less on a 30 month animal than well done 21 month one. The turn over and cash flow is quicker.

All you need sheds for is the weanlings and the suck calves. It be hard to justify a new shed for 2 year olds.

Cavanjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121741174#Comment_121741174

Do you think you’d have been better throwing them more meal from the start of the winter?

11/2kg is only teasing them. Surely 5kg a day since Christmas would have them finished by now?

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121749426#Comment_121749426

They weren’t big enough before now. Some were only 430kg when I weighed them in mid-January. I picked out the heaviest 4 then (520-540kg) and started feeding them 4kg. They’ll go to the factory at the end of Feb. I didn’t have room to pen any more, say the ones that were around 500kg then.

And I don’t have enough pens to sub-divide the rest of them.

The lack of shed space and pens is what’s killing me. If I don’t get the loan off the bank to go milking, I’ll put up a 3-4 bay slatted unit and get set up properly for cattle. It’s all pulling and dragging at the moment and trying to balance torture in the rain against the extra few quid you might get for feeding them for another few weeks.