Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

JesusRef

mountgomery burns wrote: »

I did see him shoulder Blanchfield when he wasnt expecting and knock him over when the ball was down the other end of the field. Didn't see what happened at the end but would strike me as unlikely if he hurt his hand and his marker bust his jaw at the same time and the incidents not be related...

I saw that shoulder in the back as well, it was sneaky and pretty stupid to be honest as it could have resulted in a needless yellow.

Edit - I had commented on the incident at the end - but removed because its not fair to comment on something you didnt see

mountgomery burns

JesusRef wrote: »

I saw that shoulder in the back as well, it was sneaky and pretty stupid to be honest as it could have resulted in a needless yellow.

Didnt see the incident at the end either, there was no reaction from the people around me in the stand (i was in line with the 21) or the terrace to the incident - seems likely to me that there then wasnt a whole pile to it

Yeah I was behind the goal and there was no reaction, you'd think if it was sinister somebody would have seen it but hard to explain at the same time.

cul beag

Great analysis. Be careful not to be too critical though as we have sensitive souls on here at times!.

crottys lake

cul beag wrote: »

Great analysis. Be careful not to be too critical though as we have sensitive souls on here at times!.

Good to see you agreeing that Stephen Daniels did well then, sensible not sensitive at all.

robopaddy2

crottys lake;102641078

 Good to see you agreeing that Stephen Daniels did well then, sensible not sensitive at all.

Be careful aswell not to give management any credit at all for when we win games. Its a sure sign that you've been blinded by 'Derek the Dictator',

cul beag

The excuses are coming out early! "4-5 years behind Tipp in development". Give me a break! He's still trying to buy time with this sh**e about the u21's and needing time to develop,the fact is 10 of last Sunday's team weren't involved in the Vauxhall Conference victory and yet he wants us to believe they're all in nappies and he's up changing and feeding them every night! He's 4 yrs into the job no more excuses,he has been handed the squad of a lifetime so time now to deliver.
The facts of the matter are that Kilkenny are not the team they were, Cork,Clare,Wexford and Limerick are at least one notch below us in terms of development and settled sides which leaves Tipp and Galway realistically in the way to win the All Ireland.

deisedude

cul beag wrote: »

The excuses are coming out early! "4-5 years behind Tipp in development". Give me a break! He's still trying to buy time with this sh**e about the u21's and needing time to develop,the fact is 10 of last Sunday's team weren't involved in the Vauxhall Conference victory and yet he wants us to believe they're all in nappies and he's up changing and feeding them every night! He's 4 yrs into the job no more excuses,he has been handed the squad of a lifetime so time now to deliver.
The facts of the matter are that Kilkenny are not the team they were, Cork,Clare,Wexford and Limerick are at least one notch below us in terms of development and settled sides which leaves Tipp and Galway realistically in the way to win the All Ireland.

For fcuk sake, its what managers in every sport say. What do you want him to say? Come out and say we will hammer everyone

ThaiTanic

Hslaw wrote: »

There is always one.....

Who cares what club players are from. Once they are winning games and getting places they could all play junior for all I care

Always one? Shut up ya muppet, what will you be saying on Sunday evening when Tipp dismantle DLS? If Daniels was from any other club in the county he wouldn't even get a look in getting back onto the panel, he's getting roasted off poor club Senior forwards in Waterford as it is haha, he's DLS though straight back in

debok

ThaiTanic wrote: »

Always one? Shut up ya muppet, what will you be saying on Sunday evening when Tipp dismantle DLS? If Daniels was from any other club in the county he wouldn't even get a look in getting back onto the panel, he's getting roasted off poor club Senior forwards in Waterford as it is haha, he's DLS though straight back in

I see again your hoping for a tipp win.

thesultan

debok wrote: »

I see again your hoping for a tipp win.

What are you abusing fellas for? Make a point , except differences of opinions and response and take it like a man

The blue blaa

Is there attin to be said for another mass here.....

debok

thesultan wrote: »

What are you abusing fellas for? Make a point , except differences of opinions and response and take it like a man

Are you serious ? He just told a fella to shut up and called him a muppet but I'm abusing him. I offered my opinion that he's again hoping for a Waterford defeat to help justify his opinion. Even if I dont like magrath or fellas that were playing I wouldn't be hoping for defeats.

danganabu

cul beag wrote: »

The excuses are coming out early! "4-5 years behind Tipp in development". Give me a break! He's still trying to buy time with this sh**e about the u21's and needing time to develop,the fact is 10 of last Sunday's team weren't involved in the Vauxhall Conference victory and yet he wants us to believe they're all in nappies and he's up changing and feeding them every night! He's 4 yrs into the job no more excuses,he has been handed the squad of a lifetime so time now to deliver.
The facts of the matter are that Kilkenny are not the team they were, Cork,Clare,Wexford and Limerick are at least one notch below us in terms of development and settled sides which leaves Tipp and Galway realistically in the way to win the All Ireland.

You're embarrassing yourself at this stage :rolleyes: and whoever told you that using the phrase ''Vauxhall Conference'' was funny or clever was clearly taking the piss!

thesultan

debok wrote: »

Are you serious ? He just told a fella to shut up and called him a muppet but I'm abusing him. I offered my opinion that he's again hoping for a Waterford defeat to help justify his opinion. Even if I dont like magrath or fellas that were playing I wouldn't be hoping for defeats.

That was for him

debok

thesultan wrote: »

That was for him

Sorry bout that I took ya up wrong.

thesultan

Waterford same back line and midfield? Forward line changes?

PTH2009

thesultan wrote: »

Waterford same back line and midfield? Forward line changes?

Derek said he will use the squad this league and will rotate per match.

SOK to start on goal,Id start Darragh Fives in place of Stephen Daniels,Stephen Bennett For Shane and maybe Jake Dillion For Tom Devine, rest of team the same as the last day

Since the QF stage of the league started in 2014, it has been proven that 4 points possibily is not enough to make the QFs. We won 2 games in 2014 and still got relagated, Galway did similar last year.

JesusRef

Tipp are clearly the best team in th country at the moment - they have gone through a hell of a lot of hurt since 2009 and they will not be giving up their status as the best easy - they havae had to work so hard for it and have had so many crushing disappointments along the way.

Of course Waterfords experience is nowhere near Tipps yet, compare each counties experiences over the last 8 years - there is actually no comparison - Waterford are getting closer every year but we still have quite a long way to go - and still have a few disapointments ahead of us too.

I have huge admiration for this Tipp side, always came back after so many hard days against Kikenny to eventually get to the top... hopefully something we can learn from

PTH2009

A lot of the Waterford lads are still a few years off from reaching there peak age and lads such as Noelie, Shane Fives,Soky, Philip Mahoney, Stephen Daniels etc are at there peak (starting to feel old as I'm there age lol), while a few others are slighthly younger and older

How good will we be in say 4/5 years ???

cul beag

Danganabu when commenting on something you're not up to date on please don't embarrass yourself by trying to the George Mitchell of the form(You better look him up aswell while you get the facts on the Vauxhall Conference comment) There's a good boy! Leave the hurling to the natives.

tomwaterford

PTH2009 wrote: »

A lot of the Waterford lads are still a few years off from reaching there peak age and lads such as Noelie, Shane Fives,Soky, Philip Mahoney, Stephen Daniels etc are at there peak (starting to feel old as I'm there age lol), while a few others are slighthly younger and older

How good will we be in say 4/5 years ???

Dont put off until tomorrw what you can do today

Theres no reason they cant at a minimum reach an all ireland....its nearly 10 years since theyve won in croke park at this stage


They have the players,ability,and imo the attitude to do so.....but tgis retreating to defend a lead will have to stop....cost them last augest vs kk.....almost again last sunday.....they had them there for tge beating.....why not push on and beat them well

cul beag

Just aswell Clare didn't read the script about experience a few years ago! What a load of rubbish! If you're good enough you're old enough and this is the best opportunity we have had in years to claim the ultimate prize. We have 10 fellas that started last Sunday that more than likely will start the Munster semi final and all have enough experience now so enough of that bulls**t!

PTH2009

tomwaterford wrote: »

Dont put off until tomorrw what you can do today

Theres no reason they cant at a minimum reach an all ireland....its nearly 10 years since theyve won in croke park at this stage


They have the players,ability,and imo the attitude to do so.....but tgis retreating to defend a lead will have to stop....cost them last augest vs kk.....almost again last sunday.....they had them there for tge beating.....why not push on and beat them well

To an extent the same happend in the under 21 AI final last year, we came for second half and let Galway back in the game but we had a huge lead going into that half and it was a different squad

I agree we need to stomp this out but is it the players themselves doing this or is it management instructing them ???. If we don't win an All Ireland with this talented bunch in the next 10-12 years than were never going to win one tbh

Iooking forward to Sunday and hopefully we can pick up the win although a draw would not be the end of the world.

seananigans

JesusRef wrote: »

Ti

Of course Waterfords experience is nowhere near Tipps yet, compare each counties experiences over the last 8 years - there is actually no comparison - Waterford are getting closer every year but we still have quite a long way to go - and still have a few disapointments ahead of us too.

i call bull**** you are only ever as good as your last or next game history counts for nothing, a team saying they have 20 odd all irelands what the **** does that matter, most of those people who won them are dead now.

the weight of history only matters if you let it, we can be and will be the best in the country the sooner people start believing it the sooner itll happen ,

and as for records... the longer a record goes on the closer it is to being broken, this is a statistical fact, time to stop being pessimistic and recognise the time is now

Cake Man

No changes to last Sunday.

Deise Gael

I said we'd beat Kilkenny by 5 or 6, which we should have had if we kept hurling. Kilkenny are not in a good place.

We'll also win this Sunday, Tipp have nothing done yet.

If you haven't cashed in your money on the Kilkenny game double it against Tipp.

This is only February and Tipp have bigger fish to fry come the Summer.

robopaddy2

PTH2009 wrote: »

A lot of the Waterford lads are still a few years off from reaching there peak age and lads such as Noelie, Shane Fives,Soky, Philip Mahoney, Stephen Daniels etc are at there peak (starting to feel old as I'm there age lol), while a few others are slighthly younger and older

How good will we be in say 4/5 years ???

Those lads are 26, 27, 28, should be at their peak now. Very few lads still playing county over the age of 30 anymore. In 4/5 years it will be more about the Austin Gleesons, Currans and Bennetts etc leading the team, and hope the conveyor belt can keep rolling on behind them

hurler on de ditch

cul beag wrote: »

The excuses are coming out early! "4-5 years behind Tipp in development". Give me a break! He's still trying to buy time with this sh**e about the u21's and needing time to develop,the fact is 10 of last Sunday's team weren't involved in the Vauxhall Conference victory and yet he wants us to believe they're all in nappies and he's up changing and feeding them every night! He's 4 yrs into the job no more excuses,he has been handed the squad of a lifetime so time now to deliver.
The facts of the matter are that Kilkenny are not the team they were, Cork,Clare,Wexford and Limerick are at least one notch below us in terms of development and settled sides which leaves Tipp and Galway realistically in the way to win the All Ireland.

well said

ThaiTanic

Daniels gets the boot for another de la salle man McNulty, Dilion in for Paddy Curran, Jamie Barron not playing over Fitzgibbon, Selectors a Roanmore man isn't he? Trow in Gavin O Brien instead so haha. Go down to Paddy power in the morning and put the mortgage on Tipp at even money. I hate seen Waterford loosing the same as anyone but this is pure madness, anyone who can't see what's going on is blind and will be here crying on Sunday evening. It's laughable really!

manor

Lads,

Where can I.buy the Waterford blue hats.