Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

KevIRL

Stopitwillya wrote: »

Very good win but more important than the result was how we completely lost our shape in the forwards in the final 20 mins. First 50 mins were excellent and we could have been up by more only for a lot of missed chances. The final 20 though says we haven't learnt from last year unfortunately.

Would agree with this. 6 points up and we had a chance to drive it on but retreated out the field.

PTH2009

KevIRL wrote: »

Would agree with this. 6 points up and we had a chance to drive it on but retreated out the field.

id love to see us play like we the first 50 mins for a whole game but for whatever reason we make life hard for ourselves, is a player thing or a management thing ???

Cant see us winning next weekend if we play like for the last 20 mins (Possibly our best might not be enough if Tipp are serious about the league) but it would be fantastic if we beat Tipp.

Can see Cork and Clare taking points off other teams, Dublin may be destined to be in the relagation playoff but you never know. Kilkenny will deff bounce back and travel to Ennis next weekend, Cork face Dublin at home

Id love to get a huge win over Dublin on the 4th March in Croker

mountgomery burns

Thought Tadhg Bourke was outstanding, and Connors really held Hogan well.

Curran had Holden in all sorts of trouble, Kilkenny switches and us dropping out though meant we did not get much change second half. But we were by far the better side first half and should have had the game over which is pretty encouraging I think. When Walter Walsh came on, Shane Fives and Conor Gleeson swapped which means despite what has been said here the management have learned something from last year.
It' very early and nobody is going to give too much away, a good win in a place they're hard to come by.

cul beag

Where to start? It was a win,not pretty but a win none the less. There's no doubt it's horrendous to watch at times but as it has been pointed out on here several times,if the end justifies the means! Barron,Brick,TDB and Moran were excellent throughout and the fact that we stood up to them physically was a big plus aswell. Connors was very good curtailing Hogan but I think if we meet them again later in the year Ritchie could be played further out the field. The withdrawal of forwards in the second half doesn't bare well for the rest of the year and also Shane Bennett's performances for us are beginning to become worrying as it hasn't been happening for him on a regular basis unfortunately.

thesultan

cul beag wrote: »

Where to start? It was a win,not pretty but a win none the less. There's no doubt it's horrendous to watch at times but as it has been pointed out on here several times,if the end justifies the means! Barron,Brick,TDB and Moran were excellent throughout and the fact that we stood up to them physically was a big plus aswell. Connors was very good curtailing Hogan but I think if we meet them again later in the year Ritchie could be played further out the field. The withdrawal of forwards in the second half doesn't bare well for the rest of the year and also Shane Bennett's performances for us are beginning to become worrying as it hasn't been happening for him on a regular basis unfortunately.

We can talk all we want about Curran, shanahan and Bennett in the full line but how can they cope when all three could have two men on them...

PTH2009

cul beag wrote: »

Where to start? It was a win,not pretty but a win none the less. There's no doubt it's horrendous to watch at times but as it has been pointed out on here several times,if the end justifies the means! Barron,Brick,TDB and Moran were excellent throughout and the fact that we stood up to them physically was a big plus aswell. Connors was very good curtailing Hogan but I think if we meet them again later in the year Ritchie could be played further out the field. The withdrawal of forwards in the second half doesn't bare well for the rest of the year and also Shane Bennett's performances for us are beginning to become worrying as it hasn't been happening for him on a regular basis unfortunately.

I knew something was going to change tactically for us when it took us ages too come out for the second half

It's a bad state affairs when after winning such an important game we are all worrying. Can the players not say it too Derek that there struggling with the sweeper system against top opposition ??

Next weeks game with Tipperary will tell us a lot

Gavlor

We got the win away to Kilkenny, in February, without showing our full hand and without the hurler of the year (apart from his cameo)

Jesus lads, have a word.

PTH2009

Gavlor wrote: »

We got the win away to Kilkenny, in February, without showing our full hand and without the hurler of the year (apart from his cameo)

Jesus lads, have a word.

True I'm Mr negative here but today was an important win no matter how it was done

On rte after McGrath said there bringing Aussie slowly back win into things as he had a lot of distractions after getting his Poty and all star last year

Wonder what next weeks 15 will be ??

letowski

cul beag wrote: »

Where to start? It was a win,not pretty but a win none the less. There's no doubt it's horrendous to watch at times but as it has been pointed out on here several times,if the end justifies the means! Barron,Brick,TDB and Moran were excellent throughout and the fact that we stood up to them physically was a big plus aswell. Connors was very good curtailing Hogan but I think if we meet them again later in the year Ritchie could be played further out the field. The withdrawal of forwards in the second half doesn't bare well for the rest of the year and also Shane Bennett's performances for us are beginning to become worrying as it hasn't been happening for him on a regular basis unfortunately.

From an outsider, I thought Barron and Moran were excellent in midfield in the last 10/15 minutes, to get ye over the line. Moran is some athlete.

carter10

PTH2009 wrote: »

Gavlor wrote: »

We got the win away to Kilkenny, in February, without showing our full hand and without the hurler of the year (apart from his cameo)

Jesus lads, have a word.

True I'm Mr negative here but today was an important win no matter how it was done

On rte after McGrath said there bringing Aussie slowly back win into things as he had a lot of distractions after getting his Poty and all star last year

Wonder what next weeks 15 will be ??

You're 'Mr Negative' every game, i see you predicted a KK win beforehand..as you do for all games you predict an opposition win. No doubt you'll be predicting a Tipp win next. You're a TROLL and personallyI'm fed up of the drivel you post on here.
I doubt you're a waterford man at all.

PTH2009

carter10 wrote: »

You're 'Mr Negative' every game, i see you predicted a KK win beforehand..as you do for all games you predict an opposition win. No doubt you'll be predicting a Tipp win next. You're a TROLL and personallyI'm fed up of the drivel you post on here.
I doubt you're a waterford man at all.

Chill pill man I'm not a troll, I'm a Waterford man end off. Last championship game missed was vs Laois in 2006, missed a handful of league games since I stared going to games in 2005, I'm season ticket, club deise member, go to a number if underage games and club games if time allows

Deise Gael

PTH2009 wrote: »

Chill pill man I'm not a troll, I'm a Waterford man end off. Last championship game missed was vs Laois in 2006, missed a handful of league games since I stared going to games in 2005, I'm season ticket, club deise member, go to a number if underage games and club games if time allows

PTH, forget the knockers, from your regular post on here it's obvious that you're a real dyed in the wool passionate Deise man and long may you keep on contributing here and your opinions on Waterford hurling are always welcome.

JeffKenna

carter10 wrote: »

You're 'Mr Negative' every game, i see you predicted a KK win beforehand..as you do for all games you predict an opposition win. No doubt you'll be predicting a Tipp win next. You're a TROLL and personallyI'm fed up of the drivel you post on here.
I doubt you're a waterford man at all.

Just because he's negative doesn't mean he's a troll. Plenty of people in ireland are negative about things as a means to play down expectations or not to tempt faith. It's in our nature.

PTH2009

JeffKenna wrote: »

Just because he's negative doesn't mean he's a troll. Plenty of people in ireland are negative about things as a means to play down expectations or not to tempt faith. It's in our nature.

I'm like fr jesup in father Ted 'believe the opposite of what I say'

In the squad today there was no sos, dunford or dj foran. Team in programme was wrong as they were going by our squad numbers

robopaddy2

PTH2009 wrote: »

True I'm Mr negative here but today was an important win no matter how it was done

On rte after McGrath said there bringing Aussie slowly back win into things as he had a lot of distractions after getting his Poty and all star last year

Wonder what next weeks 15 will be ??

Shur you forgot Aussie when naming out your starting team last week! It's no wonder you expect us to win nothing!!

HatchetMan7

Great result by the players today in Nowlan Park never an easy place to get a win. You couldn't fault any player for lack of effort but as many have said Jamie Barron was class as usual. De Burca was also very good especially in the first half and Moran really stood up when needed most. I thought Tom Devine also did well enough at full forward and gave a good pass for Currans goal. The winning and losing of the game i thought would come from our full back line against their full forward line. In fairness all 3 in the full backline were good today and didn't give Kilkenny an inch. Probably the most heartening aspect of the game today was how we stood up to Kilkenny physically. Good start to the league which sets it up nicely for next weeks game against Tipp.

Deskjockey

Good win today, nice bit of bite to the game in the second half. Jamie Barron had a great game, while Tadhg de Bourca played well also.

Any idea why Maurice wasn't named on the panel? Was it just cos Lismore were involved in the intermediate club semi final last week?

Agreed Aussie looked sluggish enough when he came on.

Cake Man

Good result, very happy to get the win to try build on for the rest of the league. The best part I think is that one more win should just about secure a place in the quarter finals and if that were to come sooner rather than later, it should mean plenty of lads getting game time when we could afford to experiment a bit.


Barron, Moran, Tadgh, Connors and Paudie (bar one very poor free right in front of the posts) and Brick were all very good. I seem to recall a few weeks ago people putting together what the team should look like for the year and a few left out Brick, I think today showed why he has to be one of the first names on the teamsheet as he offers so much. Won plenty of ball, offloaded for a few scores, won a few frees and got stuck in.


Tipp next week will be interesting, it'll be very tough but I'd nearly see it as a shot to nothing as winning today has taken a bit of pressure off needing a result.
Anyone have a list of the subs named today? Curious to see who we had on the bench who may get a look in for other games. Was Billy Nolan there?

HatchetMan7

Cake Man wrote: »

Good result, very happy to get the win to try build on for the rest of the league. The best part I think is that one more win should just about secure a place in the quarter finals and if that were to come sooner rather than later, it should mean plenty of lads getting game time when we could afford to experiment a bit.


Barron, Moran, Tadgh, Connors and Paudie (bar one very poor free right in front of the posts) and Brick were all very good. I seem to recall a few weeks ago people putting together what the team should look like for the year and a few left out Brick, I think today showed why he has to be one of the first names on the teamsheet as he offers so much. Won plenty of ball, offloaded for a few scores, won a few frees and got stuck in.


Tipp next week will be interesting, it'll be very tough but I'd nearly see it as a shot to nothing as winning today has taken a bit of pressure off needing a result.
Anyone have a list of the subs named today? Curious to see who we had on the bench who may get a look in for other games. Was Billy Nolan there?

Agree about Brick. He's got nothing to prove but does so anyway.

cul beag

Paudie from play? I don't remember him doing much bar his contribution from frees but as for Brick it's only when that colossus of a man decides he has nothing more to offer will we really realise what we are missing. You could count on one hand the amount of bad games he has had for us,he truly is an inspiration for any young fella on this panel. His professionalism,dedication and consistency throughout his career has been phenomenal. Another player that is showing that consistency is Jamie Barron. He is quickly becoming one of the top midfielders of the modern game,his work rate is excellent but his distribution is what sets him apart as he rarely wastes possession. He is now adding a scoring side to his game which we always saw when playing for Fourmilewater.
One interesting battle next Sunday will be Brick and Paudie Maher,I hope the foundation under the stand is solid!!

robopaddy2

cul beag wrote: »

Paudie from play? I don't remember him doing much bar his contribution from frees but as for Brick it's only when that colossus of a man decides he has nothing more to offer will we really realise what we are missing. You could count on one hand the amount of bad games he has had for us,he truly is an inspiration for any young fella on this panel. His professionalism,dedication and consistency throughout his career has been phenomenal. Another player that is showing that consistency is Jamie Barron. He is quickly becoming one of the top midfielders of the modern game,his work rate is excellent but his distribution is what sets him apart as he rarely wastes possession. He is now adding a scoring side to his game which we always saw when playing for Fourmilewater.
One interesting battle next Sunday will be Brick and Paudie Maher,I hope the foundation under the stand is solid!!

Cant think of enough words to describe the brick. In an era where most fella's don't want to commit after they hit 30, this guy is 33 or 4, has a big enough job with the bank, farms at home and has a young family. Yet, he keeps coming back, year on year, putting his body on the line, even after suffering his fair share of heart-ache over the years. Un unbelievable man. I'd run into hell and back for him if he was on my team.

PTH2009

My dads season ticket was scanned yesterday but he is down as not attended on his account page

Anything I can do about it ??

windy shepard henderson

PTH2009 wrote: »

My dads season ticket was scanned yesterday but he is down as not attended on his account page

Anything I can do about it ??

send them an e-mail they will get back to you before the week is over and mark it as attended , it sometimes takes a few days to be updated too

PTH2009

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

send them an e-mail they will get back to you before the week is over and mark it as attended , it sometimes takes a few days to be updated too

sent them an email thanks

My team for the Tipp game would be

Sok
S Fives
B Coughlan
N Connors
TBD
D Fives
S Mcnulty
J Barron
C Gleeson
K Moran
P Mahony
Brick
P Curran
Stephen Bennett
A Gleeson

ThaiTanic

Good to see 13 clubs involved in the Senior hurling this weekend, no surprise what club had the most players involved, you'd swear they were the best club in the county. This is in stark contrast to the Kilkenny team at the weekend where not one of Coadys James Stephens club men were selected on the Kilkenny match day squad. Worth keeping an eye on this during the league.

Waterford
DLS: 4 Moran, Daniels, McNulty, Dillon
Ballygunner: 2 Coughlan, Mahony
Fourmilewater: 2 Barron Gleeson
Mount Sion: 2 Iggy Aussie
Passage: 1 Connors
Tourin: 1 Fives
Clashmore: 2 TDB BOH
Stradbally: 1 Brick
Ballyduff Upper: 1 Kearney
Dungarvan: 1 Curran
Roanmore: 1 O Brien
Modeligo: 1 Devine
Ballysaggert: 1 Bennett

thesultan

It has been posted here before and will again but this system has turned me off going to watch Waterford especially in the slog. Derek won't change and give us a three man full toward line..

debok

ThaiTanic wrote: »

Good to see 13 clubs involved in the Senior hurling this weekend, no surprise what club had the most players involved, you'd swear they were the best club in the county. This is in stark contrast to the Kilkenny team at the weekend where not one of Coadys James Stephens club men were selected on the Kilkenny match day squad. Worth keeping an eye on this during the league.

Waterford
DLS: 4 Moran, Daniels, McNulty, Dillon
Ballygunner: 2 Coughlan, Mahony
Fourmilewater: 2 Barron Gleeson
Mount Sion: 2 Iggy Aussie
Passage: 1 Connors
Tourin: 1 Fives
Clashmore: 2 TDB BOH
Stradbally: 1 Brick
Ballyduff Upper: 1 Kearney
Dungarvan: 1 Curran
Roanmore: 1 O Brien
Modeligo: 1 Devine
Ballysaggert: 1 Bennett

Should he not pick Dls players is that what your saying ?

ThaiTanic

debok wrote: »

Should he not pick Dls players is that what your saying ?

They shouldnt get prefrence in the team, thats what im saying

tomwaterford

ThaiTanic wrote: »

They shouldnt get prefrence in the team, thats what im saying

So who would you place in the team ahead the four named players?

mickmackmcgoo

ThaiTanic wrote:

They shouldnt get prefrence in the team, thats what im saying

Would you rather he didn't select Kevin Moran ?