Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

waterfordgirl

Any idea what games are being shown on tg4 tomorrow?

windy shepard henderson

waterfordgirl wrote: »

Any idea what games are being shown on tg4 tomorrow?

the clare v limerick game is live i think the other is tipperary v cork not sure about the deferred game

KevIRL

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

the clare v limerick game is live i think the other is tipperary v cork not sure about the deferred game

Correct. 1B promotion decider live and tipp-cork deferred

Speak Now

PTH2009 wrote: »

Iggy will go this year or next and Billy will take the sub goalie role for the next while I'd say.

We win and kilkenny win we take top spot, kilkenny 2nd, Dublin 3rd, Tipperary or Galway 4th

We win and Dublin win, Dublin top, us 2nd, kilkenny 3rd

Both games are draws and its goes down to point difference for the top 3.

We lose and a kilkenny victory/draw will put us 3rd. Dublin victory puts us 2nd

I'm the unlikely event of a draw its Dublin, Kilkenny and Waterford in that order.

PTH2009

Speak Now wrote: »

I'm the unlikely event of a draw its Dublin, Kilkenny and Waterford in that order.

As we beat kilkenny Wud we not go 2nd ??. 2 draws is very unlikely to happen but u never knw

cul beag

HatchetMan7 wrote: »

It is a little baffling that he played a near full strength last week with little to no experimentation and this week he makes sweeping changes. On the face of it, it seems like he was going for the win last week and was going to experiment this week against Galway. As Waterford were so flat last week maybe he feels many players needed a rest but i think he needs to be a little bit more consistent with how he's using his bench. As was already alluded to if a player or players where playing poorly like last week, that's when you should be utilizing your bench. Every player has to fight for his place and if your having a bad day at the office you should be replaced as this leads to greater competition and this gives the subs confidence that they will get a fair shot at playing themselfs onto the team.

The big worry for me is that last year there was big improvements in defence, work rate and team work with and without the ball but we were limited in attack. There wasn't enough dynamism in our attack. I was hoping that this was going to be the main focus this year but so far (early days yet) there doesn't seem to be much that's changed. Maybe McGrath is keeping his cards close to his chest and we'll see something different against Clare in the championship but surely he would needs to test any new ideas out in the league at some stage. It could just be that Pauric Mahony is the key man that we are missing in the forward line, he certainly is a leader and play maker and maybe things will start to click when we see Mahony playing playing along side Maurice, Curran, Bennett, Gleeson, Dunford, Dillon etc.

It's like he is rewarding the panelists for their effort over the winter months by playing them tomorrow and then that's those guys kept happy for another few months! NONE of the 10 named tomorrow alongside Aussie, Tadgh, Devine, Bennett and Maurice will start championship if all players are fit. That is a definite as McGrath doesn't do change easily so this tomorrow is a token gesture and nothing else. Obviously he has a different strategy to the likes of Kilkenny and Tipp when it comes to introducing players to the league so it will be interesting to see how it works out. Depending on Mahoney to be as good as he was before the injury is very high risk as he has a lot of match time to catch up on as has Stephen Bennett so both will need time and game time aswell to find their form again.

Speak Now

PTH2009 wrote: »

As we beat kilkenny Wud we not go 2nd ??. 2 draws is very unlikely to happen but u never knw

Sorry i mean both draws, it was the only scenario where you didn't give the finishing order.

HatchetMan7

cul beag wrote: »

It's like he is rewarding the panelists for their effort over the winter months by playing them tomorrow and then that's those guys kept happy for another few months! NONE of the 10 named tomorrow alongside Aussie, Tadgh, Devine, Bennett and Maurice will start championship if all players are fit. That is a definite as McGrath doesn't do change easily so this tomorrow is a token gesture and nothing else. Obviously he has a different strategy to the likes of Kilkenny and Tipp when it comes to introducing players to the league so it will be interesting to see how it works out. Depending on Mahoney to be as good as he was before the injury is very high risk as he has a lot of match time to catch up on as has Stephen Bennett so both will need time and game time aswell to find their form again.

Unfortunately that's what it seems like. As was already mentioned if you want to give 2 or 3 subs a fair crack at trying to nail down a place on the starting 15, you play them with 12 to 13 of the starting team. You don't through in 10 new players there's no continuity there at all which must be a little disheartening for any player that's sitting on the bench.

culbaire

tomwaterford wrote: »

You appear to have your excuse for this year sorted out though??

What was the excuse for not winning it under Justin

When Derek McGrath wins at least 4 Munsters and an All Ireland, then you can criticise Justin. Quite possible if John Mullane had not been sent off in a Munster Final against Cork in 2004, that Waterford could have taken Kilkenny. KK barely scraped over the line on a score of 3–12 to 0–18 in the All Ireland semi-final. In 2007 Waterford was knocked out by Limerick in the All Ireland semi final having played on the two previous Sundays against Cork. Waterford had already beaten Limerick in the Munster Final by 3–17 to 1–14 . The county was refused a week's break by GAA authorities. Limerick won because the Waterford players were exhausted having played three tough championships without a break.

robopaddy2

culbaire wrote: »

When Derek McGrath wins at least 4 Munsters and an All Ireland, then you can criticise Justin. Quite possible if John Mullane had not been sent off in a Munster Final against Cork in 2004, that Waterford could have taken Kilkenny. KK barely scraped over the line on a score of 3–12 to 0–18 in the All Ireland semi-final. In 2007 Waterford was knocked out by Limerick in the All Ireland semi final having played on the two previous Sundays against Cork. Waterford had already beaten Limerick in the Munster Final by 3–17 to 1–14 . The county was refused a week's break by GAA authorities. Limerick won because the Waterford players were exhausted having played three tough championships without a break.

Ah give it a rest sham will ya

robopaddy2

Dick phelan wrote: »

Well Billy Nolan but he's only 17 but he's a fantastic talent.

Billys future should be out the field. A great keeper alright but too good to be in there. Interesting to see where this years minor management put him. What happened to Seanie Barry of Lismore?

HillFarmer

culbaire wrote: »

When Derek McGrath wins at least 4 Munsters and an All Ireland, then you can criticise Justin. Quite possible if John Mullane had not been sent off in a Munster Final against Cork in 2004, that Waterford could have taken Kilkenny. KK barely scraped over the line on a score of 3–12 to 0–18 in the All Ireland semi-final. In 2007 Waterford was knocked out by Limerick in the All Ireland semi final having played on the two previous Sundays against Cork. Waterford had already beaten Limerick in the Munster Final by 3–17 to 1–14 . The county was refused a week's break by GAA authorities. Limerick won because the Waterford players were exhausted having played three tough championships without a break.

Sweet Jesus would you give it a rest.

Mcgrath will tweek things he sees fit and the lads are more mature, there is a lot of young lads blooded won the league and who knows what this year holds.

Motivator

culbaire wrote: »

When Derek McGrath wins at least 4 Munsters and an All Ireland, then you can criticise Justin. Quite possible if John Mullane had not been sent off in a Munster Final against Cork in 2004, that Waterford could have taken Kilkenny. KK barely scraped over the line on a score of 3–12 to 0–18 in the All Ireland semi-final. In 2007 Waterford was knocked out by Limerick in the All Ireland semi final having played on the two previous Sundays against Cork. Waterford had already beaten Limerick in the Munster Final by 3–17 to 1–14 . The county was refused a week's break by GAA authorities. Limerick won because the Waterford players were exhausted having played three tough championships without a break.

Croke Park didn't refuse any break for Waterford because the county board never requested one. So you're wrong there.

The blue blaa

robopaddy2 wrote: »

Billys future should be out the field. A great keeper alright but too good to be in there. Interesting to see where this years minor management put him. What happened to Seanie Barry of Lismore?

Billy will be out the field for the county minors. He could be like Eoin Murphy of Kilkenny an be cover for both out the field and on the goal as a senior player in next 2 years

closeline

Surely Galway must be backed in this one?

cul beag

closeline wrote: »

Surely Galway must be backed in this one?

Don't know what price they are but if ever they're to win it must be today against the reserves?

robopaddy2

cul beag wrote: »

Don't know what price they are but if ever they're to win it must be today against the reserves?

Plus the fact theyve got something to play for. Theres a perception that starting 10 reserves our lads would be hungry to make an impression but its a very daunting task for them when theyre all starting together like that. Their only chance to impress probably but their being set up for a fall if you ask me. Id expect Galway to win comfortably. Its almost like derek was trying to keep the unbeaten run going at all costs but now they lost last week its seems like hes going to give the fringe players a run

culbaire

robopaddy2 wrote: »

Ah give it a rest sham will ya

Am I not entitled to respond to another poster?

culbaire

HillFarmer wrote: »

Sweet Jesus would you give it a rest.

Mcgrath will tweek things he sees fit and the lads are more mature, there is a lot of young lads blooded won the league and who knows what this year holds.

Am I not entitled to respond to the challenge from another poster?

cul beag

1-10 to 12 down at halftime. Some save from Skehill from Shane Bennett. We're doing fine and unlucky to be behind.

Speak Now

Important point for Waterford at the end, makes the last 8 game much easier.

O Riain

Unreal performance. Really instills confidence in the panel.

Deskjockey

Speak Now wrote: »

Important point for Waterford at the end, makes the last 8 game much easier.

Who are we playing? Or is it fixed yet

O Riain

Am I right in saying that we are playing Wexford? Their score difference is better than Offaly so puts them in 3rd no? They have had 2 games at home like us so is it a toss up for who gets the home game or does it depend on the last game played between us?

Kerry very very nearly made the quarter final and only for Laois losing in the end to Wexford by a point they'd be in there, good year for them in 1B.

Speak Now

Deskjockey wrote: »

Who are we playing? Or is it fixed yet

Away to Wexford.

PTH2009

O Riain wrote: »

Am I right in saying that we are playing Wexford? Their score difference is better than Offaly so puts them in 3rd no? They have had 2 games at home like us so is it a toss up for who gets the home game or does it depend on the last game played between us?

Kerry very very nearly made the quarter final and only for Laois losing in the end to Wexford by a point they'd be in there, good year for them in 1B.

Offaly 3rd by head to head. Kerry very unlucky but will be happy with the win and will surly win the relagation playoff in 1b.

Good to see pauric back may start next day

Speak Now

O Riain wrote: »

Am I right in saying that we are playing Wexford? Their score difference is better than Offaly so puts them in 3rd no? They have had 2 games at home like us so is it a toss up for who gets the home game or does it depend on the last game played between us?

Kerry very very nearly made the quarter final and only for Laois losing in the end to Wexford by a point they'd be in there, good year for them in 1B.

Waterford had 3 games at home.

Speak Now

PTH2009 wrote: »

Offaly 3rd by head to head. Kerry very unlucky but will be happy with the win and will surly win the relagation playoff in 1b.

Good to see pauric back may start next day

Wexford 3rd not Offaly.

O Riain

Speak Now wrote: »

Waterford had 3 games at home.

You are very right. Away it is so!

PTH2009

Wexford away feck it could of been Kerry away.