How religion has f***** my life up

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 2:30pm #1

Has anyone ever been screwed over by the religious beliefs of others? Any African youngsters like me in the house know what it feels like to be stuck under the Pentecostal dogma of their parents?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 08-03-2015 2:35pm

No. Afraid I can't relate to that. Sounds like a typical response for a late teenager today. It'll pass. You'll find your own way and own beliefs with time.

Mint Aero · 08-03-2015 2:36pm

Angelo.J197 wrote: »

Any African youngsters like me in the house

Who's in the house?

Say Jesus in the house :cool:

Macavity. · 08-03-2015 2:38pm

Was made go to mass by the parents and would miss the big big movie.

Penny Tration · 08-03-2015 2:40pm

Nope. Came from a religious family, but chose my own path in life.

Dozer Dave · 08-03-2015 2:41pm

Macavity. wrote: »

Was made go to mass by the parents and would miss the big big movie.

Sky plus it.

punisher5112 · 08-03-2015 2:43pm

Thank the lord you have internet.

Do I here a haleylula

Mongfinder General · 08-03-2015 2:43pm

Watch ye for you know not when the master of the house cometh. *

* your old man is gonna kick some ass if he reads what you've been posting

Baby Jane · 08-03-2015 2:43pm

Scarlet Faint Radium wrote: »

No. Afraid I can't relate to that. Sounds like a typical response for a late teenager today. It'll pass. You'll find your own way and own beliefs with time.

Pentecostalism is fire and brimstone stuff - not easy having to deal with that. I think there's more to it than teenage whining.
If the parents are being very controlling "You'll find your own way" etc is easier said than done.

jacksie66 · 08-03-2015 2:43pm

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Sir Osis of Liver. · 08-03-2015 2:44pm

No,I don't have any Africans in my house.

Should I?

Is this the latest thing?

stefanovich · 08-03-2015 2:45pm

Angelo.J197 wrote: »

Has anyone ever been screwed over by the religious beliefs of others? Any African youngsters like me in the house know what it feels like to be stuck under the Pentecostal dogma of their parents?

Have fun with it... Start acting like you are possessed by Satan.

jacksie66 · 08-03-2015 2:46pm

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ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 08-03-2015 2:50pm

Baby Jane wrote: »

"You'll find your own way" etc is easier said than done.

No, it's not.

Baby Jane · 08-03-2015 2:52pm

Scarlet Faint Radium wrote: »

No, it's not.

Depends I suppose. Certainly easy for people who don't have controlling parents - and easy for the same people to tell others with controlling parents that it's easy.

kneemos · 08-03-2015 2:53pm

Angelo.J197 wrote: »

Has anyone ever been screwed over by the religious beliefs of others? Any African youngsters like me in the house know what it feels like to be stuck under the Pentecostal dogma of their parents?

Doubt anybody in Ireland would understand that.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 08-03-2015 2:57pm

Baby Jane wrote: »

Depends I suppose. Certainly easy for people who don't have controlling parents - and easy for the same people to tell others with controlling parents that it's easy.

Look, the OP has said elsewhere that he's moving out of the home this summer. He'll soon settle on his own path in life.

Hande hoche! · 08-03-2015 2:57pm

jacksie66 wrote: »

I hear it was all the rage in America a couple of years ago..

Brangelina et al?

Penny Tration · 08-03-2015 3:06pm

Baby Jane wrote: »

Depends I suppose. Certainly easy for people who don't have controlling parents - and easy for the same people to tell others with controlling parents that it's easy.

I lived with parents so controlling that the word 'bitch' landed you 3 months confined to your room before and after school, and an aul bating.

Still managed to find my own path in life. Once you're an adult, you can do your own thing. You just deal with it til then.

Peregrine · 08-03-2015 3:06pm

Scarlet Faint Radium wrote: »

Look, the OP has said elsewhere that he's moving out of the home this summer. He'll soon settle on his own path in life.

He also said that he's willing to work for less than minimum wage to pay for it. I wouldn't be so quick to undermine his issue.

LDN_Irish · 08-03-2015 3:07pm

kneemos wrote: »

Doubt anybody in Ireland would understand that.

Is that a joke? Plenty of borderline fundamentalists in Ireland who I'm sure have gone through similar.

OP, I knew a second gen St Lucian fella in London who's mother was pentecostal. He was quite extreme, wanted gays all put on an island and nuked. I met him again a couple of years ago and he'd mellowed out a lot. He'd moved out of the house and met a girl who was a lot less religious. Just bide your time and play it cool until you get out. There's truth to what Srameen says although they're kind of over simplifying it IMO.

Baby Jane · 08-03-2015 3:08pm

I realise I'll probably annoy the poster in question who's saying it by coming back again, but how can anyone possibly know from internet posts that a person (anyone) will soon find their own path in life, or indeed anything?

Penny Tration · 08-03-2015 3:11pm

Baby Jane wrote: »

I realise I'll probably annoy the poster in question who's saying it by coming back again, but how can anyone possibly know from internet posts that a person (anyone) will soon find their own path in life, or indeed anything?

Because they have free will. Once they're an adult, they make their own choices, so therefore do what THEY themselves choose.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 08-03-2015 3:11pm

Baby Jane wrote: »

I realise I'll probably annoy the poster in question who's saying it by coming back again, but how can anyone possibly know from internet posts that a person (anyone) will soon find their own path in life, or indeed anything?

Not annoyed in he slightest! Carry on.

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 3:14pm

Finally someone understands....

mikemac1 · 08-03-2015 3:22pm

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

No,I don't have any Africans in my house.

Should I?

Is this the latest thing?

No need anymore. Nowadays you can hire staff on jobbridge

One eyed Jack · 08-03-2015 3:23pm

Baby Jane wrote: »

I do too but it's not a fundamentalist one - it involved zero effort to forge my own path.

Pentecostal religions (and there's a few varieties!) aren't fundamentalist, it's the adherents of any religion can be fundamentalists, but most adherents of any religion are moderate to so laid back they'd fall over

The OP's problem isn't religion, it's that he's not old enough to move out yet and make an independent life for himself. That's when the real fun will start

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 3:25pm

Guys some of you should try being from an African background with strong Pentecostal beliefs. The beatings I've taken ohhhhh boy. Some of you may say sure just report to social services be grand....it's doesn't work like that all the time

conorh91 · 08-03-2015 3:29pm

Look on the bright side. Denzel Washington also is a Pentecostal.

galljga1 · 08-03-2015 3:34pm

Angelo.J197 wrote: »

Guys some of you should try being from an African background with strong Pentecostal beliefs. The beatings I've taken ohhhhh boy. Some of you may say sure just report to social services be grand....it's doesn't work like that all the time

Not sure I want to try that. Went through a lot of crap as a kid but not as much as the previous generation. Looks like you are a couple of generations behind. Happyism is the way to go: its a cross between the teachings of the Dalai Lama and Kermit the Frog, you can't go wrong. Good luck in the future.

Lapin · 08-03-2015 3:35pm

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

No,I don't have any Africans in my house.

Should I?

Is this the latest thing?

No need.

The Trocaire box takes care of everything now.

LDN_Irish · 08-03-2015 3:40pm

Angelo.J197 wrote: »

Guys some of you should try being from an African background with strong Pentecostal beliefs. The beatings I've taken ohhhhh boy. Some of you may say sure just report to social services be grand....it's doesn't work like that all the time

Judging by the wording of your OP, you're already at an advantage over others in similar situations because you seem to see the dogma for what it is. This is good. I understand the additional issues of the conflation of the African culture (which country BTW?) with the heavy religion but usually the hardest part of these things is freeing yourself from the baggage in your head. It seems like you've already made a start on that.

cloud493 · 08-03-2015 3:44pm

I used to miss the good cartoons on ITV every morning to go to mass :mad:

The Backwards Man · 08-03-2015 3:48pm

I've met a couple of British Israelites, they're Pentecostal aren't they? Too extreme for the Free Presbyterians anyway, so they must be bad.

conorh91 · 08-03-2015 4:01pm

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I've met a couple of British Israelites, they're Pentecostal aren't they? Too extreme for the Free Presbyterians anyway, so they must be bad.

This is a bit of a tangent but the Norn Iron Pastor Alan Campbell is one of those British Israelites.

He is more extreme than Ian Paisley was, and seems to spend his life dedicated to virulent anti-Catholicism.

BBC Spotlight did a documentary which featured his friendship with a paedophile, who was also alleged to have been involved in the murder of a boy whose body was burned and mutilated. Bizarre moral priorities going on there.

The_Valeyard · 08-03-2015 4:02pm

conorh91 wrote: »

This is a bit of a tangent but the Norn Iron Pastor Alan Campbell is one of those British Israelites.

He is more extreme than Ian Paisley was, and seems to spend his life dedicated to virulent anti-Catholicism.

BBC Spotlight did a documentary which featured his friendship with a paedophile, who was also alleged to have been involved in the murder of a boy whose body was burned and mutilated. Bizarre moral priorities going on there.

What!!! How is that even possible...

One eyed Jack · 08-03-2015 4:26pm

Angelo.J197 wrote: »

Guys some of you should try being from an African background with strong Pentecostal beliefs. The beatings I've taken ohhhhh boy. Some of you may say sure just report to social services be grand....it's doesn't work like that all the time

Don't tar them all with the one brush -

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Have you ever been to a Pentecostal sermon? I go usually on a Sunday afternoon. It took me a while before I was accepted into their community, being the only white guy there and all. I'm not even Pentecostal, I just go for the music!

It doesn't quite work like that all the time either, much less to do with religion and culture than you might think, and more to do with how you help yourself get out of the situation you're in.

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 4:34pm

When I was a kid my parents instilled the religion into my head to the point where I thought I could speak in tongues. I literally laugh at myself sometimes when I think of it. I believe the reason most Nigerians and Africans in general have such a strong faith in something that has such phrase values is due to lack of education. Thank god I grew up in Ireland. I owe the Irish system sooo much

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 4:42pm

Oh dear god jack don't tell me they've got you too.

bodhrandude · 08-03-2015 4:54pm

We had a fairly strict upbringing, during lent we were made say the rosary every night and all that sh1te. (I'm talking upwards to 14 years old anyway). We rebelled one year as the rosary clashed with the film the Graduate which my parents had a low opinion off because of the sex scenes. Anyway we watched the film but us younger lot got a thrashing for being sinners afterwards(Good old days). The parents kinda mellowed out then and became a bit more liberal when we were in the mid teens.

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 4:56pm

Scarlet Faint Radium wrote: »

No. Afraid I can't relate to that. Sounds like a typical response for a late teenager today. It'll pass. You'll find your own way and own beliefs with time.

It's not just as simple as you'll find your own way in life. I suppose you didn't hear the story of the Islamic girl who's parents literally tracked her down and beat her up when she tried to "find her own path in life". Let me tell you something my parents are just as bad if not worse but then again yours probably aren't mad crazy like mine so I suppose that's the reason you feel it's so simple.

Just be grateful you don't have to go through the daily troubles of religious African life.

Wang King · 08-03-2015 4:56pm

jacksie66 wrote: »

In this day and age in Ireland, how has religion ****ed up your life?

Because you have 6 and 7yo kids in school shouting about how God is great and our savior....and that there is no such thing as Santa

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 4:59pm

Wang King wrote: »

Because you have 6 and 7yo kids in school shouting about how God is great and our savior....and that there is no such thing as Santa

#truth

NotCominBack · 08-03-2015 5:02pm

Angelo.J197 wrote: »

#truth

wot, no such thing as santa?

anothernight · 08-03-2015 5:07pm

Jenny Thalia wrote: »

I lived with parents so controlling that the word 'bitch' landed you 3 months confined to your room before and after school, and an aul bating.

Still managed to find my own path in life. Once you're an adult, you can do your own thing. You just deal with it til then.

Sometimes finding your own path in life requires cutting off ties with your family completely and then nursing your emotional scars. And that's if you make it through "dealing with it till then" alive. =/

mikemac1 · 08-03-2015 5:09pm

You start a thread OP about beatings, you won't dare leave the house but then you won't call the HSE

Your problem is not religion, it's your physco parents.

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 5:11pm

NotCominBack wrote: »

wot, no such thing as santa?

Bruh once I was eight so I tried to see if Santa was real and decided to write a letter to send to the north or South Pole. Got my ass whooped by my parents for even assuming Santa was real

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 5:15pm

mikemac1 wrote: »

You start a thread OP about beatings, you won't dare leave the house but then you won't call the HSE

Your problem is not religion, it's your physco parents.

Who are In turn crazy because of the religious beliefs. They follow the bible word for word and see it acceptable to beat their child cause it says so in the bible. If Pentecostal beliefs weren't soo stern and strict so you think I'd be posting this?

mikemac1 · 08-03-2015 5:18pm

The three of ye go visit your pastor or whatever name he has so

See what he has to say since they'll listen to him

If he says beating is allowed in scripture then you are fecked so!

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 5:20pm

mikemac1 wrote: »

You start a thread OP about beatings, you won't dare leave the house but then you won't call the HSE

Your problem is not religion, it's your physco parents.

I'm not just some kid giving out because his iPhone got taken away from him or because daddy won't get him the latest console. What good will the HSE do? Social care seems to be just as bad as living with my parents from what I've heard. Plus college is only around the corner and I need mumsy and dadsy to pay for it.

Angelo.J197 · 08-03-2015 5:22pm

mikemac1 wrote: »

The three of ye go visit your pastor or whatever name he has so

See what he has to say since they'll listen to him

If he says beating is allowed in scripture then you are fecked so!

Hahahahahahahaha thing is though my dad is a pastor that's why he's soo strict with the religion. Can you believe he wants me to become a pastor aswell? How cray!

How religion has f***** my life up

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