The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

TOss Sweep

Clementine Scary String wrote: »

paddy pigskin now.

He has really good knowledge and played for the Dublin Rebels in Ireland. Hasn't broken through with any media outlet yet though. Just doing his own podcasts and what not.

Sam with PFF is really good like any of these guys not everyone cup of tea either but I find his work excellent.

Good to see Irish folk put the effort in and spread the knowledge.

TOss Sweep

Hococop wrote: »

Was watching Nick foles highlights (hoping he finds form for tomorrow ) and remembered Sanchez on our team, just wondering what are people's take on him? I feel he gets ridiculed for the butt fumble which to be fair is so so embarrassing but I think it clouds people's judgement of him

Looking at his stats he was an ok/solid QB he did ok with us and had some good results with the jets

Sanchez as a person seems like a really good guy but as a QB no more than average. Problem with him you put the game in his hands and he wont win it for you. But you manage the game and control his plays he will win games for you. Rex Ryan proved that with him.

cosatron

Sorry if this has being posted before. https://mobile.twitter.com/ItsAntWright/status/951217574930460673

jack presley

I hate Frank Caliendo. He does the same John Gruden and John Madden impressions every time. Mildly amusing the first time maybe, but definitely not the 100th time he does it.

cosatron

jack presley wrote: »

I hate Frank Caliendo. He does the same John Gruden and John Madden impressions every time. Mildly amusing the first time maybe, but definitely not the 100th time he does it.

Sorry dude it was my first time ha

brinty

adrian522 wrote:

There's an Irish guy that works for PFF called Sam Monson who's pretty good.

Yea really enjoy Sam and hid analysis,Cian is very marmite,agree with some of his stuff but not all. Sam of those two is streets ahead

Bateman

Scott Hanson supposed to be on Soccer Saturday today, few photos doing the rounds on twitter

raven136

Paully D wrote: »

I see Cian Fahey has resigned from ESPN after reported ignorant behavior towards colleagues at a bar after drinking.

That’s a real shame.

I know he’s not to everyone’s tastes but I enjoy his analysis and it’s extremely rare that someone from these shores would ever get the opportunity to progress to doing podcasts for ESPN.

Massive opportunity blown.

Massive shame

He was always excellent on the Lebatard Show and had found a nice chance at a national audience there. Pity

krustydoyle

So the Seahawks just hired Brian Schottenheimer at their new OC

jack presley

raven136 wrote: »

Massive shame

He was always excellent on the Lebatard Show and had found a nice chance at a national audience there. Pity

Do we know what exactly he did yet? I read his train of tweets but all it said was he did something that would be normal to Irish people but offensive to Americans or something along those lines.

I liked him too. His podcast in Tuesdays was quite good too. Pity he ruined what was the opportunity of a lifetime because he was drunk and made an arse of himself.

raven136

jack presley wrote: »

Do we know what exactly he did yet? I read his train of tweets but all it said was he did something that would be normal to Irish people but offensive to Americans or something along those lines.

I liked him too. His podcast in Tuesdays was quite good too. Pity he ruined what was the opportunity of a lifetime because he was drunk and made an arse of himself.

Lot of tweets saying use of the Cnut word and that type of thing

Waste of a brilliant oppurtunity

phatkev

krustydoyle wrote: »

So the Seahawks just hired Brian Schottenheimer at their new OC

How is he still in the league

Itssoeasy

jack presley wrote: »

I hate Frank Caliendo. He does the same John Gruden and John Madden impressions every time. Mildly amusing the first time maybe, but definitely not the 100th time he does it.

The madden isn't great after a few listens but his Adam shefter is unreal.

Itssoeasy

phatkev wrote: »

krustydoyle wrote: »

So the Seahawks just hired Brian Schottenheimer at their new OC

How is he still in the league

Son of Marty ?

Billy86

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Son of Marty ?

That's the start, middle and end of it. Thought it was hugely refreshing last week to hear Gruden I believe it was say Sean McVay (who we can all agree looks a great coach in the making) credits why he rose to the top and cracked into the NFL at such a young age simply being down to nepotism.

Paully D

Billy86 wrote: »

That's the start, middle and end of it. Thought it was hugely refreshing last week to hear Gruden I believe it was say Sean McVay (who we can all agree looks a great coach in the making) credits why he rose to the top and cracked into the NFL at such a young age simply being down to nepotism.

Nepotism, you say:

https://twitter.com/JoshNorris/status/951602155412230145

Paully D

If anyone doubted the importance of drafting, look at the Jaguars drafts in recent years.

Bortles (I know, I know), Lee, Robinson, Linder, Telvin Smith, Fowler, Yeldon, Ramsey, Jack, Ngakoue and Fournette all drafted in the last 4 years.

Consistently poor drafts will almost always catch up with you, while 2 or 3 good drafts in a row can be enough to turn you from laughing stock to playoff contenders.

Drafting is the single most important aspect in the NFL, IMO.

Paully D

Paully D wrote: »

If anyone doubted the importance of drafting, look at the Jaguars drafts in recent years.

Bortles (I know, I know), Lee, Robinson, Linder, Telvin Smith, Fowler, Yeldon, Ramsey, Jack, Ngakoue and Fournette all drafted in the last 4 years.

Consistently poor drafts will almost always catch up with you, while 2 or 3 good drafts in a row can be enough to turn you from laughing stock to playoff contenders.

Drafting is the single most important aspect in the NFL, IMO.

Worth noteknf try have been given outstanding draft grades for years so it has taken time + they have nailed free agency so it's a real combination of everything.

I'm delighted the cowboys didn't get Ramsey he really is a team changer

brinty

Paully D wrote:

Drafting is the single most important aspect in the NFL, IMO.

They've also done well in fee agency. Without Calais Campbell, Barry Church and AJ Bouye I don't think they'd have been as hood this year

Clementine Scary String wrote:

I'm delighted the cowboys didn't get Ramsey he really is a team changer

Unfair comparison really. Cowboys took Zeke Elliott on offense whose also a game changer as he keeps his defence off the field

brinty

brinty wrote: »

They've also done well in fee agency. Without Calais Campbell, Barry Church and AJ Bouye I don't think they'd have been as hood this year



Unfair comparison really. Cowboys took Zeke Elliott on offense whose also a game changer as he keeps his defence off the field

Not having a go off the cowboys at all zeke has been outstanding I just think Ramsey would scare me more

brinty

Clementine Scary String wrote: »

Not having a go off the cowboys at all zeke has been outstanding I just think Ramsey would scare me more

Agh I know that and I’d have been happy with Ramsey or Elliot in Dallas

jack presley

Anyone who enjoys @CaptAndrewLuck on Twitter might also like @BortlesFacts

Some funny tweets on there.

Knex*

https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington/status/952616550011371523

ScrubsfanChris

Foxtrol

Paully D wrote: »

If anyone doubted the importance of drafting, look at the Jaguars drafts in recent years.

Bortles (I know, I know), Lee, Robinson, Linder, Telvin Smith, Fowler, Yeldon, Ramsey, Jack, Ngakoue and Fournette all drafted in the last 4 years.

Consistently poor drafts will almost always catch up with you, while 2 or 3 good drafts in a row can be enough to turn you from laughing stock to playoff contenders.

Drafting is the single most important aspect in the NFL, IMO.

6 of the top 10 FA spenders last season were Patriots, Rams, Vikings, Panthers, Titans, and Jags who all made the payoffs. Obviously drafting well is important but more than ever a good FA can turn teams around. Given how 5 of those went from missing out last year to making the playoffs (with 3 making their conference championships) I'd say free agency is even more important than ever in the short term for turning a team around quickly.

Bateman

The Jags have definitely drafted well, so well in fact that they make it look so easy. You look at some of the decisions certain other teams have taken and you really have to scratch your head. The Browns in particular, but also teams like the Colts who consistently make bad decisions. It definitely catches up with you as someone said.

Knex*

Bateman wrote: »

The Jags have definitely drafted well, so well in fact that they make it look so easy. You look at some of the decisions certain other teams have taken and you really have to scratch your head. The Browns in particular, but also teams like the Colts who consistently make bad decisions. It definitely catches up with you as someone said.

I wouldn't quite say 'so well they make it look easy'. The biggest thing, for me, is that they finally started signing FAs that are in their prime that actually contribute. Instead of being the final paycheck of a player on his last legs.

Since David Caldwell became GM in 2013, these are his first rounders:

2013 2 Luke Joeckel
2014 3 Blake Bortles
2015 3 Dante Fowler Jr.
2016 5 Jalen Ramsey
2017 4 Leonard Fournette

I would highly question those first three years.

They have done well hitting on some of the later picks, such as Allen Robinson in the 2nd and Telvin Smith in the 4th in 2014, and also Ngakoue in the 3rd in 2016.

I wouldn't say its spectacular drafting however. Not like Seahawks a few years back, imo anyway. For example, their final four picks in 2016 are either out of the league or on practice squads elsewhere already. The other years aren't massively more productive either.

mcgratheoin

Knex. wrote: »

They have done well hitting on some of the later picks, such as Allen Robinson in the 2nd and Telvin Smith in the 4th in 2014, and also Ngakoue in the 3rd in 2016.

There's also the question of how good coaching influences player development. I think it's frequently ignored when we talk about draft hits & misses - but just look at Foles, Keenum and Goff under Fisher or how long it took Alex Smith to develop after he was dumped into the sh!tstorm that was the 49ers. There are lots of later round picks that just need to be in the right place to succeed, good drafting is about identifying the players that your coaching team can improve rather than the players that would be a success regardless of where they go.

Knex*

Think Belichick only said during the week, "no player can overcome bad coaching".

Couldn't agree more.

Billy86

Bateman wrote: »

The Jags have definitely drafted well, so well in fact that they make it look so easy. You look at some of the decisions certain other teams have taken and you really have to scratch your head. The Browns in particular, but also teams like the Colts who consistently make bad decisions. It definitely catches up with you as someone said.

They've also hit well on many 'obvious' picks which is kind of interesting since q lot of people (correctly) warned about "can't miss" busts while their drafts were getting A+ scores immediately after. It's pretty rare to do that and hit so often.