The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

Billy86

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Billy. Quality over quantity. Terrell Davis had a short career but it was good years.

But by that reckoning if portis went another year or two on Denver before having a career ending injury, we'd be discussing if he should be in too. Like I said, there's more than just the short career in my argument, Mike Anderson and portis each looked out of this world with Denver too, and olandis Gary was a 1,100 yard back there also. That runnibg system shanahan had in Denver is legendary for a reason.




Agree with those irritated on Dawkins not getting in also, loved the guy.

Knex*

TO didn't get in again? Now that's a farce. The guy is a top 3 receiver to ever play the game ffs.

JaMarcusHustle

Still an absolute disgrace that TO isn't in the hall of fame. Any argument that his off the field carry on is a factor no longer applies considering Marvin Harrison was inducted last year.

Give me someone who does push ups on his lawn and tosses popcorn rather than someone who stabs team mates and shoots people.

It's like a Pro Bowl for retired players at this stage. Carries very little acclaim IMO.

Itssoeasy

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Still an absolute disgrace that TO isn't in the hall of fame. Any argument that his off the field carry on is a factor no longer applies considering Marvin Harrison was inducted last year.

Give me someone who does push ups on his lawn and tosses popcorn rather than someone who stabs team mates and shoots people.

It's like a Pro Bowl for retired players at this stage. Carries very little acclaim IMO.

Agree on TO not getting in being a joke. I mean his numbers speak for themselves.

JaMarcusHustle

Anyone catch Keegan-Michael Key's opening monologue at the Honours show last night? Wasn't as good as other years but some very good shots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThiRef4jp9M

adrian522

Knex. wrote: »

TO didn't get in again? Now that's a farce. The guy is a top 3 receiver to ever play the game ffs.

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Still an absolute disgrace that TO isn't in the hall of fame. Any argument that his off the field carry on is a factor no longer applies considering Marvin Harrison was inducted last year.

Give me someone who does push ups on his lawn and tosses popcorn rather than someone who stabs team mates and shoots people.

It's like a Pro Bowl for retired players at this stage. Carries very little acclaim IMO.

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Agree on TO not getting in being a joke. I mean his numbers speak for themselves.

TO didn't even make the final 10 this year. He had a tweet with thehashtag #flawedprocess so probably not endearing himself to them but I think it devalues the whole thing by him not being in,

Moss is eligible next year too so TO will probably not get in in 2018 either.

This is from Clark Judge ,one of the selection committee:

The debate wasn’t different from a year ago, and here’s why: Nothing has changed. Owens still has the numbers and still has the reputation. The debate was passionate on both sides of the aisle, but it wasn’t long before it became clear that, as happened a year ago when he was a first-year finalist, his candidacy would be put on call-waiting. Owens can complain … and he and his supporters have … but he has an uphill climb to reach Canton

Not sure what they expected to change over the course of the year.

Itssoeasy

adrian522 wrote: »

TO didn't even make the final 10 this year. He had a tweet with thehashtag #flawedprocess so probably not endearing himself to them but I think it devalues the whole thing by him not being in,

Moss is eligible next year too so TO will probably not get in in 2018 either.

This is from Clark Judge ,one of the selection committee:



Not sure what they expected to change over the course of the year.

Yeah I mean his numbers aren't going to change. Ok TO probably rubbed his team mates the wrong way but he was never in trouble off the field. It's a joke and with randy moss up next year and others being eligible in the coming years I've an awful feeling it'll turn into a cris Carter.

Billy86

Owens not being in pretty much ends any question as to whether HOF inclusion really is voted on for 'on the field performance' alone or not, though doesn't surprise me too much to be honest.

Itssoeasy

Billy86 wrote: »

Owens not being in pretty much ends any question as to whether HOF inclusion really is voted on for 'on the field performance' alone or not, though doesn't surprise me too much to be honest.

I agree. I mean TOs on the field is up there with the greats of the game.

coco0981

T. O will get in eventually, it just seems like the committee want to rub his face in the dirt a bit before he gets in. Seems very petty

SHOVELLER

Agree. He needs to play the game though. Be political and diplomatic.

Anyway Rex Ryan on now saying he knew he would always get to the Superbowl! Beckham next to him and Ryan saying he could play for him anytime but first he has to get a job!

TOss Sweep

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Anyone catch Keegan-Michael Key's opening monologue at the Honours show last night? Wasn't as good as other years but some very good shots.

His anger skit was fantastic also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kysijp1Qimk

Realt Dearg Sec

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Anyone catch Keegan-Michael Key's opening monologue at the Honours show last night? Wasn't as good as other years but some very good shots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThiRef4jp9M

I thought that was pretty good! (Who did it in previous years?)

I love their sketch about excessive celebrations

Pretty accurately sums up the absurdity of the rule.

JaMarcusHustle

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

I thought that was pretty good! (Who did it in previous years?)

Seth Meyers, Alec Baldwin and Conan O'Brien have done it previously.

Meyers also did the ESPYS a few years back and it was brilliant, though a lot of the punchlines were topical at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPSWmoAja8w

helimachoptor

One of the Titans guards picked up a girl at the probowl.. she then drugged him and robbed him of a couple of watches that retailed at about 100K... thats 10% of his gross income since joining the league..

Billy86

helimachoptor wrote: »

One of the Titans guards picked up a girl at the probowl.. she then drugged him and robbed him of a couple of watches that retailed at about 100K... thats 10% of his gross income since joining the league..

Jesus, that sucks. Hopefully she gets found, he's not in a situation where he has a QB he protects on $20mn+ to do him a solid either.

Still, what the hell is someone on his money doing spending $100k on watches!? Unless they were gifts from management etc.

Realt Dearg Sec

helimachoptor wrote: »

One of the Titans guards picked up a girl at the probowl.. she then drugged him and robbed him of a couple of watches that retailed at about 100K... thats 10% of his gross income since joining the league..

Watching the 30 for 30 documentary "Broke" should be compulsory for all incoming players to the NFL. Between involving himself with deceitful swine who don't have his best interests in mind and spending obscene money on things he manifestly can't afford, it's like this incident could just be the Sparknotes version of the film for someone without the time to watch the whole thing.

Itssoeasy

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

helimachoptor wrote: »

One of the Titans guards picked up a girl at the probowl.. she then drugged him and robbed him of a couple of watches that retailed at about 100K... thats 10% of his gross income since joining the league..

Watching the 30 for 30 documentary "Broke" should be compulsory for all incoming players to the NFL. Between involving himself with deceitful swine who don't have his best interests in mind and spending obscene money on things he manifestly can't afford, it's like this incident could just be the Sparknotes version of the film for someone without the time to watch the whole thing.

Yeah that 30 for 30 was frightening stuff. When I heard some of the things they were throwing money at, and the amounts they were invested brought up. It was scary stuff.

Itssoeasy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elfw0ESih-A

helimachoptor

Billy86 wrote: »

Jesus, that sucks. Hopefully she gets found, he's not in a situation where he has a QB he protects on $20mn+ to do him a solid either.

Still, what the hell is someone on his money doing spending $100k on watches!? Unless they were gifts from management etc.

He's a dope, basically show boating.. probably expect that of that 1M his net income is about 600K (from the titans forum im on) and thats before buying a house/car etc

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Watching the 30 for 30 documentary "Broke" should be compulsory for all incoming players to the NFL. Between involving himself with deceitful swine who don't have his best interests in mind and spending obscene money on things he manifestly can't afford, it's like this incident could just be the Sparknotes version of the film for someone without the time to watch the whole thing.

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah that 30 for 30 was frightening stuff. When I heard some of the things they were throwing money at, and the amounts they were invested brought up. It was scary stuff.

I follow David Cobb on snapchat.. he was drafted in 2015 by the Titans in the 5th round and spent last year on the Steelers/Bears PS.

He has an entourage and had a G wagon and has bought himself a Lambo.. and his snap chat is basically him partying, hes gonna be on the next edition of Broke!

Billy86

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah that 30 for 30 was frightening stuff. When I heard some of the things they were throwing money at, and the amounts they were invested brought up. It was scary stuff.

Most ridiculous story - the lad who knew his career was over and he would never play in the league again, only had 50k to his name and planned on using it to adjust to life after football. But then out came the new Hummer/Escalade/whatever "and I just had to have it". Buys the car, a few days later doesn't even have the money to buy petrol for it.

Nothing short of amazing.

helimachoptor

Billy86 wrote: »

Most ridiculous story - the lad who knew his career was over and he would never play in the league again, only had 50k to his name and planned on using it to adjust to life after football. But then out came the new Hummer/Escalade/whatever "and I just had to have it". Buys the car, a few days later doesn't even have the money to buy petrol for it.

Nothing short of amazing.

Even for non NFL fans, this is the one they remember.

Iirc he had 60K and the car was 56.. then he went home to the house he had a mortgage on and was like "yes new car"

Billy86

helimachoptor wrote: »

Even for non NFL fans, this is the one they remember.

Iirc he had 60K and the car was 56.. then he went home to the house he had a mortgage on and was like "yes new car"

Have'nt seen broke since it first came out, so you're probably right.

By the way their Terry Fox (ran across Canada, won't spoiler it if you haven't heard of him) and Tim Richmond 'To the Limit' (NASCAR) episodes outside of the NFL are f***ing brilliant! A lot of people would skip them because they subjects don't look that interesting, I've no interest in distance running or NASCAR myself, but the stories behind the people are amazing. Once Brothers about the Yugoslavian basketball team, too.

Hazys

Once Brothers is an incredible story my favorite 30 for 30

OldMrBrennan83

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Itssoeasy

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Ha ?

OldMrBrennan83

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Itssoeasy

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Sky have rolled out Suh as a studio guest.[/quote]
Oh right. I'd rather lose limb than listen to Neil Reynolds and dara Kennedy. Jeff is a pleasure to listen to talk football.

Beefy78

For the sake of all that is good in the World the Giants should be the NFC's representative at the Superbowl automatically for the next few years.

raze_them_all_

Beefy78 wrote: »

For the sake of all that is good in the World the Giants should be the NFC's representative at the Superbowl automatically for the next few years.

cowboys will run nfc the next few years, imo packers running out of time and wilson found out at last