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DC cinematic universe general stuff

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,267 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I assume it just means he's recasting characters from the old DCEU, rather than recasting roles he's already recently cast. So recasting the likes of Superman, Lois Lane, Perry White, Supergirl, probably others, from the Cavill/Snyder films.

    Kind of a stupid way to start the article though, considering we already know it's a new universe with new actors in previous roles.

    Wendell Pierce is awesome though. He does comedy very well but can also give incredible dramatic performances. One of my favourite scenes from The Wire:




  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    I think it was originally scheduled for the middle of this year, but I believe the writers strike delayed it a few months. I did find online it's "scheduled to be released on the streaming service Max in late 2024" so unless you have Max, I expect it will be 2025 before other services start pick it up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Full_Circle_81


    I wonder if this is a signal that maybe they are planning to shoot two movies back-to-back, a la Donner in the 70s? Unless you are also counting promotion, that seems like a staggering amount for one movie. A 2025 release for this still feels like its being overly optimistic, given how it'll no doubt need a ferocious amount of post-production on it (I imagine!).

    Great casting on Pierce for Perry. I'm really like the casting overall.

    Wouldn't be opposed to Ritchson playing Batman, but it would have to be a very specific type of Batman, more of a looming presence, without too much dramatic acting required. Think he'd have the playboy Bruce down cold. For me, even though hes not quite old enough yet, he feels like the right hulking size and shape for a Frank Millar style Batman.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I think Ritchson has the chops for a certain type of dramatic role, just needs the opportunity. I could see him playing Bruce/Batman similar to the Justice League War animated films which was a great portrayal, and what I hoped Affleck would be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Did Gunn say that his Batman movie would be about Bruce and Damien? Or is that speculation?

    I hope Alfred is still around in this new era.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,007 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭ThePott


    This is the Calendar Man's doing, I just know it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    I'm guessing The Batman 2 has been delayed until 2026 because James Gunn wanted Superman to be the "best" DC movie of 2025!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭GeneHunt



    Patty Jenkins mentions Wonder Woman 3 on a recent podcast called "Talking Pictures" and it's not good!!

    “They (James Gunn and Peter Safran) aren’t interested in doing any Wonder Woman for the time being,”






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  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    There's a rumour that Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow with Milly Alcock is taking The Batman 2 original release date of 3rd October 2025.... and if this is true, that would explain why the Batman 2 is delayed, as James Gunn is yet again doing what James Gunn does best, he looks after his projects, but that's not what a CEO of a company should be doing!

    I wouldn't be surprised, if The Batman 2 is never made, that's if Gunn has anything to do with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Full_Circle_81


    Would they really have two Super movies out one after the other? Could he be filming them back to back or simultaneously? Still think its a superfast turnaround to be filming superman now and have it out next summer, but looks like they have that release date locked in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    With the budget Superman has, you make a very good point that they could be making Superman and Superman 2 back-to-back or yes, Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow could be getting made back to back as there is a rumour Milly Alcock will debut in Superman first!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'm expecting us to get the trilogy for The Batman tbh. This might help audiences to understand that they're separate universes etc. Iirc filming for the Batman starts this month so time might be a factor.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Another addition to Gunn's universe, a Teen Titans movie.

    A part of me is wondering if this feels all that distinctly different to the last DC universe, where there seems to be a lot in development at once when it really needs to lay a stable foundation first.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Was thinking the same. Not exactly going back to formula with all these announcements; can't help but think nothing has been learned by WB



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,003 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Yeah, feels a bad move alright, especially when people experienced such a saturation of superhero content so recently.

    Would feel wiser to focus on one release - Superman - build it up, make it the foundation, and only once that has been a success and has whetted peoples appetite should you start teasing the next things to come.

    If there's a whole slate announced before we've even seen the first movie it starts to feel too overwhelming too fast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,897 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Everything feels a little to much to soon about all of this.

    Even the Superman film itself feels like a Justice League.

    Just start with a simple Superman film/story and build out from there announcing new things a week or two into filming the Superman film is just foolish really.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    And by the time all this all comes out, if there's any truth to the whole Superhero Fatigue thing, it's only gonna be more pronounced by the time all these films come out.

    Genuinely baffled why WB are doing this, but then they've been making a lot of stupid decisions lately so not sure they're thinking too straight either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I read the the THR article about the new Teens Titans movie earlier today. Like many of you; I didn't expect a script to be written up for it this minute by someone hired by WBD.

    It's a very big surprise for me tbh.

    You have to ask a lot of questions here about how this live action movie is going to pan out among it's fanbase since they first heard it from WBD today.

    Would they strike it as a good decision or an odd one. The fans could say that the script being written for it has to be a lot stronger than the Titans TV Series which went out in 2018.

    I have only watched half of all the episodes of Titans so far. I don't think that it's actually a bad series. It had a lot of potential to be good when the 4th season of the show was released about a year or two ago.

    I heard a lot of discussions online that the show had issues with bad writing while it was going through the earlier seasons. Did you get that issue when you watched it?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I have only watched half of all the episodes of Titans so far. I don't think that it's actually a bad series. It had a lot of potential to be good when the 4th season of the show was released about a year or two ago.

    I heard a lot of discussions online that the show had issues with bad writing while it was going through the earlier seasons. Did you get that issue when you watched it?

    Only watched 1 season and a couple more episodes: I just found the whole series too Try Hard, too "edgy" for its own sake that passed the whole thing off as a bit adolescent. Like they wanted absolutely no mistaking it with Teen Titans Go, so skewed hard into the opposite direction. Just became unwatchable after a while for me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,184 ✭✭✭Ridley


    Just had a look at the upcoming list of DCU movies, coming into this thread having watched The Flash yesterday, and, gosh, that slate looks exhausting.

    I suspect you don't rehabilitate the characters by diving straight back into another shared universe. Still amuses me that Warner Bros' reaction to the MCU is to wave a Gunn around.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Looks like Craig Gillespie (I, Tonya; Cruella) now tapped to direct the Supergirl movie:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,897 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Alan Ritchson isn't being shy about wanting the role.


    “I'll shout it from the rooftops: 'I want to be Bruce Wayne!’



  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    Superman villain named?

    So it has been rumoured the villain for the new Superman movie is to be Ultraman, a clone creation by Lux Luthor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,897 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Spoilers without context are horrible I must say.

    Is it casting, is it storyline, is photo leaks spoilers?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Story spoilers re. The rumoured villain in Superman



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,897 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Thanks,

    I'd probably be spoilered on it when I open a social account later anyway.

    So me saying spoilers without context are horrible, It's nearly impossible to have real spoilers in todays social media day and age it will spoiled it either straight out or with a youtube tumbnail etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,007 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    That reminds me; one of the streaming services recently spoiled a cliffhanger from one of their own shows for me, when the thumbnail of the next episode gave away a minor plot point. Not a huge deal, but enough to make me eye-roll.



  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    Sorry guys, I did try to put a title above the "Spoilers Warning" and I could not get the title text without it getting put in a spoilers warning too, I was also trying to post a photo within the "Spoilers Warning" too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,897 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    No worries, adding spoilers is also another major failure on Boards since the change over to vanilla as the site host.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Full_Circle_81


    Not to drag the thread totally off point, but I find that Netflix is particularly bad for this. Apart from the title cards being quite spoilery in and of themselves (often altered to be season specific for shows, regardless of the season you're watching), I've found that Netflix has the awful habit of setting the main header (background) of a title right before you actually click on it to an image from the end of the most recent season. So when watching a show, you are constantly being shown a hugely spoilery image from the finale right before you even click on the show. It's infuriating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/james-gunns-superman-adds-pruitt-taylor-vince-as-jonathan-kent/

    I expected a couple of big names if Jonathan and Martha were going to be in it.

    This is good news though. Vince is a great actor.

    I hope this isn’t flashback stuff though and the parents are still alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    There does seem to be too many characters in this but it doesn’t mean that they have a lot of screentime or presence in the story. I have been hoping that those other superheroes are in it very briefly just to establish a bit of world building. Like maybe Superman helps them at some point and they later shown to be protective the civilians so Supes can focus on the villain.



  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    Rumour John Cena was seen on the Superman set, James Gunn has started shooting the next season of Peacemaker, so not sure if James was just showing John around the Superman set or was shooting a Peacemaker cameo in Superman movie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,114 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    I'm ok with that, looks good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,897 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Honestly thats what I expected the look to be a very typical handsome generic all American guy which Hollywood is full of.

    The Superman look is quiet easy to cast to be honest now it's to see if he can pull off both Clark Kent and Superman.

    No actor since Christopher Reeves has been able to play both completey differently and be convincing as both the meek Clark and The Superman



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I love the image and the suit, which looks like it has seen a lot of action.

    the actor looks the part.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I didn’t see much of the Dean Cain series and I’ve only seen the pilot of Superman and Lois so I can’t comment on those performances but neither Cavill nor Welling were required to have dual identities. Even Routh didn’t have much screen time as the meek Clark Kent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,267 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    That was one of the more disappointing parts of Cavill's run. We never really got to see his Clark Kent. His disguise is more about personality and performance than just glasses and a suit, but even in BvS after he's already joined the Daily Planet he was still just the same character (not to mention any editor of a newspaper would have fired him for not writing about the latest football game which must have been a long game considering how many on-screen days had passed where Perry White was still asking for his article about the game for a daily newspaper, but that's an entirely different issue…)

    Cavill could have done a great Clark Kent if given the chance imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Yep, Peter Parker for the most part existed even was a major part in the marvel films. Same for Bruce in the Batman films. Clark works cause he's dweeby and awkward when in disguise. Suspend the audience's sense of disbelief and let Clark be that different person and have him manage that identity. It's fun and a little ridiculous and we don't really get that with the marvel movies for most part plus it's a key to Superman. It also gives the actor a chance to be a bit more than an all American hero.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I’m hoping for a lot of Clark Kent in this and hoping that the parents are still alive. I’d like to see Superman head more in need of their advice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    It has been a long time since I’ve seen the Tim Burton films and their sequels to remember and I haven’t seen enough of the animated series to say, but Bale didn’t show much of Bruce Wayne as a different personality like a carefree playboy other than in two scenes in his first film. He was pretty much the real Bruce throughout the trilogy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Fair on the Bale front but you were still made incredibly aware of the Bruce persona I found. The Cavill Superman felt like Clark was largely irrelevant.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,267 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    They've cast his parents and they're a bit older, so I'd assume they're present day and not just flashbacks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,305 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I like Tyler Hoechlin in the role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Clark wasn’t irrelevant. It was Clark Kent that Cavill was portraying through the whole movie. The real Clark. The mild mannered public persona of Clark Kent has no role in the story being told and only shows up at the end.

    Yes Party Bruce was established in the movies but was only used briefly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I didn’t know they’d cast Martha. Hopefully the ages do indeed mean they are present day.

    I like that the actress is unknown to me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    Rumours, rumours, and more rumours!!!

    Warner Bros passing notes to Matt Reeves on how the storyline should go in The Batman II, The Batman II is to be delayed again, The Batman III getting filmed back to back with The Batman II and other rumours that The Batman III is cancelled.

    James Gunn kills one rumour, I guess, as he answers a direct question on The Batman II and III "is not" getting shot back to back… However it is looking like The Batman II is getting delayed again, I wonder will we even see The Batman II



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