Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

Van.Bosch

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Anytime before 30 November is possible. They have not even launched summer 2020 schedule yet.

I suspect there will be something but much quieter than recent years.

If there is nothing, you’d imagine some fanfare about frequency increases etc.

EchoIndia

alancostello wrote: »

This should become more common now in the next few months including taking over PHL. EI-LBR hasn't flown since the 26th, I assume this means it's to be taken out of service per the original schedule and is likely in the process of handover preparations for Oct 31st.

Yes, EI-LBR is leaving as planned.

Tenger

thecutter wrote: »

Looks like its a -300 according to the seating chart, which is surprising

Well thats me put back in my box so!!
Maybe take the rest of my post with a pinch of salt!!!!

Van.Bosch wrote: »

If there is nothing, you’d imagine some fanfare about frequency increases etc.

I had a snoop around the timetable on their website 2 weeks ago.
https://www.aerlingus.com/html/flights-time-table.html

Montreal is not showing on it.
Looks like increase in SEA from 4x weekly to daily.
MIA is going to be 3x weekly rather than the twice this summer.
MSP showing on the A330 from April.
MCO looks to be 6x weekly.
SFO is still showing Daily, but LAX is planned as a -300.

Also the flight numbers are being changed on their West Coast routes. Im guessing they are running out, so decided to focus the 3 digit numbers on the East Coast?

Karl8415

Any update on the 321LR been given the green light for msp due to the distance or will it go straight from the 757 to the 330

California Dreamer

Tenger wrote: »

Looks like increase in SEA from 4x weekly to daily.
MIA is going to be 3x weekly rather than the twice this summer.
MSP showing on the A330 from April.
MCO looks to be 6x weekly.
SFO is still showing Daily, but LAX is planned as a -300.

Who robbed from who and posted this exact same thing on the Dublin Spotters facebook page?:rolleyes:

Jamie2k9

California Dreamer wrote: »

Who robbed from who and posted this exact same thing on the Dublin Spotters facebook page?:rolleyes:

To be fair it was also posted here weeks ago.

California Dreamer

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

To be fair it was also posted here weeks ago.

To be fair the timing was just a bit close

Tenger

California Dreamer wrote: »

Who robbed from who and posted this exact same thing on the Dublin Spotters facebook page?:rolleyes:

That facebook member posts here.
Liiga is the username.

he could have at least changed a few words.

Lets hope I remembered it correctly, I think I did post it 2 weeks ago when I spotted the changes.
Lots of pressure to be correct now!!!!

Bussywussy

Karl8415 wrote: »

Any update on the 321LR been given the green light for msp due to the distance or will it go straight from the 757 to the 330

Heard they're pulling NEO off IAD flights in November because it can't make it and asking pax to reroute via jfk etc

Lapmo_Dancer

Bussywussy wrote: »

Heard they're pulling NEO off IAD flights in November because it can't make it and asking pax to reroute via jfk etc

330 is daily to IAD in November and December so not sure why they’d be asking paxs to reroute. Was discussed here a few weeks ago if you look back.

Lapmo_Dancer

Anyone hear talk of 330 charters to St Lucia? Might make sense with VS dropping it as a destination and the demise of Thomas Cook.

NH2013

Lapmo_Dancer wrote: »

Anyone hear talk of 330 charters to St Lucia? Might make sense with VS dropping it as a destination and the demise of Thomas Cook.

You’re actually the third person I’ve heard mention that but didn’t give it much heed until now as it seemed quite an out there destination for Aer Lingus to serve. Guess there’s no smoke without fire but nothing firm seems to have been published.

I would have thought they would try another North American continental destination next but it could make sense as a winter seasonal market maybe through the winter to pick up slack when the 330 fleet is quite under-utilised, perhaps even more under-utilised in years to come if the NEO takes over more routes during quieter winter months freeing up 330s to travel further afield on winter sun flights.

goingnowhere

Lapmo_Dancer wrote: »

330 is daily to IAD in November and December so not sure why they’d be asking paxs to reroute. Was discussed here a few weeks ago if you look back.

If its EI-GEY....

Lapmo_Dancer

NH2013 wrote: »

You’re actually the third person I’ve heard mention that but didn’t give it much heed until now as it seemed quite an out there destination for Aer Lingus to serve. Guess there’s no smoke without fire but nothing firm seems to have been published.

I would have thought they would try another North American continental destination next but it could make sense as a winter seasonal market maybe through the winter to pick up slack when the 330 fleet is quite under-utilised, perhaps even more under-utilised in years to come if the NEO takes over more routes during quieter winter months freeing up 330s to travel further afield on winter sun flights.

I heard ‘charter’ mentioned and doubt it would be a scheduled service so that would take a lot of the cost and risk out of it. EI wouldn’t have to sell or market the seats.

On the face of it, it seems a sensible utilisation of an A330 in winter similar to the Novair contract a few years ago. Provided they’ve done their sums correctly.

Flesh Gorden

Is the Dynamic Route Map known to throw up a few red herrings?

Or in other words, have they not bothered updating it in the past few years?

https://www.dynamicroutemaps.com/aerlingus-drm-2019/?_ga=2.88325147.1676334359.1572536095-1485287964.1519751660


There's a few odd ones using Cork as an example:

- FCO Rome
- BRU Brussels
- JER Jersey
- LGW Gatwick

None of which are active routes and clicking on them give an 'access denied' 400 error.

Dubrovnik, Newquay and Rennes are missing from that map too, so it looks to be pretty out of date.

kevinandrew

It’s just not been updated, I don’t think anyone really looks at them anymore.

I used to really like exploring the route maps of various airlines but they just went out of fashion, particularly with larger airlines who have complicated codeshare networks, joint ventures, alliance partners and multiple hubs or bases.

Van.Bosch

kevinandrew wrote: »

It’s just not been updated, I don’t think anyone really looks at them anymore.

I used to really like exploring the route maps of various airlines but they just went out of fashion, particularly with larger airlines who have complicated codeshare networks, joint ventures, alliance partners and multiple hubs or bases.

Yeah, I think people use Wikipedia now mainly

Chris_5339762

I bloody wish they were still flying from Cork to Brussels. Bruges can be a right pain to get to from Cork.

Karl8415

I see EI-DEC is on the move in Abu Dhabi heading home via Frankfurt after under going maintenance since October 11th

ohigg84

goingnowhere wrote: »

If its EI-GEY....

EWR seems to flying the route on a daily basis now!

VivaLasBegas

Irish Times reporting Paris (4 per week) and Barcelona (3 per week) from Shannon to be announced tomorrow morning. Sorry can't post the link fully as I'm a new user but if you can manage the 3w's and a . the rest will get you there....

irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/aer-lingus-to-launch-flights-from-shannon-to-paris-and-barcelona-1.4073539

goingnowhere

Sounds like the A320 currently on the morning LHR is reassigned

The A321neo takes over the first SNN-LHR-SNN

VivaLasBegas

That is indeed the plan. Increased route offering as opposed to leaving the airframe idle. Great to see and I think these will be popular routes. Nice to see EI offer more out of SNN as FR seem to have no ambition to grow there.

goingnowhere

EI will likely run connections from the overnight BOS/JFK to CDG/BCN/LHR which will help to get the numbers up

sherology

If EI can get transfer traffic into JFK/BOS (and maybe promote it/prefer it as a connection for these busy routes), that will help sustain the SNN routes, and in turn, interline agreements with AF, and the every allusive IB (an IAG partner airline), for those departing Ireland.

If Shannon (who complain a lot - I'm a local so don't kill me) could facilitate/promote/pre-package a no-extra-fee (taxes/free attraction admission vouchers) 3-day stopover in 'the Shannon region' as part of that maybe it too would assist in a more practical way to get minded folks to have 2-trips in one at a discount - 'your here anyway type of thing' i.e. Iceland stopovers.

Good destinations but SNN has a bad history of keeping numbers up to sustain non bucket/spade routes. Transfers and interlining will be key here I think. Good to see they're willing to try though. Now... SNN and locals... Stop complaining and start supporting or it'll be bye-bye-birdie yet again. Airlines aren't charities, but they do need support in remoter areas

Tenger

sherology wrote: »

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If Shannon (who complain a lot - I'm a local so don't kill me) could facilitate/promote/pre-package a no-extra-fee (taxes/free attraction admission vouchers) 3-day stopover in 'the Shannon region' as part of that maybe it too would assist in a more practical way to get minded folks to have 2-trips in one at a discount - 'your here anyway type of thing' i.e. Iceland stopovers.
.........

Ive always wondering why EI dont offer this option. I remember 6-7 years ago when the then EI CEO was appointed to the board of failte ireland. At the time
I thought such an option was the next step.
If EI got a subsidy of 50-100 for each pax who took the stop option it would be very good return for them. And good for the economy as 2 days would easily mean approx 3-500 spend into Ireland.

goingnowhere

EI's ticketing allows for up to 7 day stopover.

Any such subsidy would have to be made available at Dublin, Cork, Kerry etc, EI is the only connecting airline at Shannon so such a subsidy would be indirect government support as it would benefit a single airline and also would be applicable only to EU carriers.

We live in a free market, the fares are already historically low, if people want to go its there call

MOR316

Wrong thread perhaps but, I paid a deposit on return fligths to JFK yesterday, for next May.
It said I would receive a confirmation email but, I never got one.

Anyone else have this issue before?

cson

goingnowhere wrote: »

EI's ticketing allows for up to 7 day stopover.

Any such subsidy would have to be made available at Dublin, Cork, Kerry etc, EI is the only connecting airline at Shannon so such a subsidy would be indirect government support as it would benefit a single airline and also would be applicable only to EU carriers.

We live in a free market, the fares are already historically low, if people want to go its there call

Booking a stopover is definitely not an intuitive experience on the website. Unless you can do it easily online, as you could with WOW and Icelandair, then folks won't bother calling in to do it - or indeed even be aware its an option.

Idbatterim

These new Shannon flights. Would the aircraft not make more money out of Dublin or elsewhere?