Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread IV

total former · 28-01-2015 10:46am

Big Nelly wrote: »

Read somewhere yesterday the suggestion is Madigan to start at 10 to give him some time playing 10....

Irish Times had reported that (Gerry Thornley I think); tbh I'm not sure of the logic. He'd be playing with a different 9, a different midfield and behind a different pack compared to the Italy game, plus the 10-12 roles are pretty fluid between himself and Gopperth at Leinster.

I'd rest Madigan and play Keatley.

Big Nelly · 28-01-2015 10:48am

total former wrote: »

Irish Times had reported that (Gerry Thornley I think); tbh I'm not sure of the logic. He'd be playing with a different 9, a different midfield and behind a different pack compared to the Italy game, plus the 10-12 roles are pretty fluid between himself and Gopperth at Leinster.

I'd rest Madigan and play Keatley.

Was on interview with one of the backroom staff for Ireland. Said they know what Keatley can do at 10 but Madigan might need some time there as he has been playing 12 the last few games.....

sydthebeat · 28-01-2015 10:49am

total former wrote: »

Irish Times had reported that (Gerry Thornley I think); tbh I'm not sure of the logic. He'd be playing with a different 9, a different midfield and behind a different pack compared to the Italy game, plus the 10-12 roles are pretty fluid between himself and Gopperth at Leinster.

I'd rest Madigan and play Keatley.

i believe i heard someone involved in the coaching camp in an interview that they 'could' look at ian (madigan) for the WHs as he hasnt played there much this season for leinster, whereas they know exactly where ian keatley is as a 10

... my first impressions were that madigan would get the 10 shirt ... starting at least

andymx11 · 28-01-2015 10:55am

sydthebeat wrote: »

why?

he most likely will start at 10 against italy an he could do with the game time here to iron out his creases....

Because if he got injured we'd have Keatley starting against Italy. Neither are great options but Madigan offers more at the moment.

28-01-2015 10:56am

andymx11 wrote: »

Because if he got injured we'd have Keatley starting against Italy. Neither are great options but Madigan offers more at the moment.

meh, might be quite marginal really. Madigan's not played 10 in a while.

andymx11 · 28-01-2015 11:01am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

meh, might be quite marginal really. Madigan's not played 10 in a while.

I think Madigan could adapt quite easily he also has more international experience at 10- not ideal but I still have him a level above Keatley at the moment (last weeks goal kicking aside)

28-01-2015 11:04am

Agree, but it's marginal. Keatley starting ahead of Madigan (if Madigan got injured) doesn't really change how likely we are to beat Italy imo.

andymx11 · 28-01-2015 11:10am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Agree, but it's marginal. Keatley starting ahead of Madigan (if Madigan got injured) doesn't really change how likely we are to beat Italy imo.

Maybe so, I'm more concerned on who will bench if Madigan was injured! JJ being snubbed at Munster doesn't help us!

28-01-2015 11:12am

JJ would make the Ireland bench in that scenario as it would be between himself, iHumph and Jack Carty for the spot.

Anyway, we can't always fear the worst. Madigan starting the WH game to give him some time at 10 is worth more than the 'cost' of the likelihood of him getting injured and it's following effects on our team.

ssaye2 · 28-01-2015 11:12am

http://www.the42.ie/new-six-nations-trophy-2015-1906846-Jan2015/

Maybe we get to keep the old one

irishbucsfan · 28-01-2015 11:18am

Irish rugby fans are now at the stage where they're making plans to deal with the injuries of players who are just rumoured to be starting a single match! Shows how tough a season it's been for injuries.

bilston · 28-01-2015 11:58am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

JJ would make the Ireland bench in that scenario as it would be between himself, iHumph and Jack Carty for the spot.

Anyway, we can't always fear the worst. Madigan starting the WH game to give him some time at 10 is worth more than the 'cost' of the likelihood of him getting injured and it's following effects on our team.

Will never happen but in an emergency I would call Steenson up.

Sanjuro · 28-01-2015 12:06pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Irish rugby fans are now at the stage where they're making plans to deal with the injuries of players who are just rumoured to be starting a single match! Shows how tough a season it's been for injuries.

Yeah, I've been thinking that for the last couple of days. Kinda dreading the Wolfhounds match as much as looking forward to it.

jacothelad · 28-01-2015 12:08pm

bilston wrote: »

Will never happen but in an emergency I would call Steenson up.

If it came down to the wire it's J.J., him or iHumph who we know has his flaws (not as bad as most exaggerate) but for reasons attributable only to his superb pace and skills, I'd love to see get a cap. I've never forgotten how back in 08/09 NOC went to N. America with Ireland and the vastly more talented iHumph stayed at home.

.ak · 28-01-2015 12:17pm

JJ would probably get the nod because he's more familiar with the player group. Steenson is undoubtedly the more solid 10 but he wouldn't be familiar.

wp_rathead · 28-01-2015 12:42pm

https://twitter.com/rugby_ie/status/560385097619484673

Wasn't aware Eoin was in extended squad?

MJohnston · 28-01-2015 1:01pm

Not the greatest promo they've done, but BRING IT ON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422327029&x-yt-cl=84838260&v=op0sQM8dpIU

thomond2006 · 28-01-2015 2:48pm

Add Dave Foley to the injury list: 3 months.

So POC, Toner and Henderson as our second rows?

total former · 28-01-2015 2:49pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Add Dave Foley to the injury list: 3 months.

So POC, Toner and Henderson as our second rows?

Depends where Henderson is played, McCarthy might come into the mix. Not sure Foley's absence really changes much, it was always McCarthy or Foley, not Foley or Henderson, if you get me.

28-01-2015 3:01pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Add Dave Foley to the injury list: 3 months.

So POC, Toner and Henderson as our second rows?

I'm not sure McCarthy has been 100% fit all season. Look likes someone who is managing a knock as some games he gets stuck in and others he seems to be holding back.

When he has showed form this season though he has been impressive so could see him come into the squad.

vienne86 · 28-01-2015 3:10pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not sure McCarthy has been 100% fit all season. Look likes someone who is managing a knock as some games he gets stuck in and others he seems to be holding back.

When he has showed form this season though he has been impressive so could see him come into the squad.

McCarthy had a stupid knock on in a match a few weeks ago (I forget which match), and he is playing like someone who has been making up for that ever since. I think he has been in good form and will be in with a shout, especially with Foley sidelined.

Mahatma Geansai · 28-01-2015 3:16pm

Terrible luck for Foley. He had a great chance to further cement himself ahead of McCarthy in the pecking order.

vienne86 · 28-01-2015 3:23pm

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

Terrible luck for Foley. He had a great chance to further cement himself ahead of McCarthy in the pecking order.

Yes, despite McCarthy's form of late, I really fancy Foley for the future. He must be gutted.

Zzippy · 28-01-2015 3:27pm

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

Terrible luck for Foley. He had a great chance to further cement himself ahead of McCarthy in the pecking order.

Shame alright that he got injured. Foley only has 2 caps so he hadn't exactly cemented himself ahead of anyone yet, but McCarthy is 7 years older and on the way out so he'll have plenty of time to do so. Will be in the WC squad assuming no more injuries.

Brewster · 28-01-2015 4:07pm

Dan Touhy is the bigger miss for us off the bench..If Hendo doesn't start he is nailed on for bench spot now. Sean O Brien is the interesting one, will he start in Italy??? I think he might !

S12b · 28-01-2015 4:11pm

I wonder will that change things for the Wolfhounds game? At this stage, we only have 4 fit locks. POC and Toner are nailed on starters leaving Henderson and McCarthy to fight it out for the bench spot. I'd fancy Henderson to get that spot and play in the second row simply because of the shortage of second rows and the abundance of flankers in the squad.....needs must and all that.

Henderson will definitely play Friday but will McCarthy be risked? He's not short on game time and doesn't need the game in the way others do.....if he was to get injured it would be a disaster. If Mick Kearney wasn't injured I'd fancy him to be involved on Friday. Do people think McCarthy will start on Friday???

.ak · 28-01-2015 4:17pm

Diack might have to play lock.

What's Kevin McLoughlin up to these days?

Interested Observer · 28-01-2015 4:17pm

Just read on the IT site thar Schmidt is saying SOB will basically come straight back in. He's in full training, contact, everything.

.ak · 28-01-2015 4:17pm

Interested Observer wrote: »

Just read on the IT site thar Schmidt is saying SOB will basically come straight back in. He's in full training, contact, everything.

Superman.

MattD · 28-01-2015 4:25pm

It has to be Henderson and McCarthy for the WH game anyway, with Henderson as the bench option for Italy and the rest of the tournament please God!!

Who's next if the unthinkable happens and we need another lock?! McLaughlin, Tuohy, Foley, Kearney (not sure how long he's out for), both Donnchas all out... Holland?

Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread IV

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