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    #32
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,553 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    TommyJoe15 wrote: »
    Sorry I'm mainly wondering if any of ye have had any experience with having alcohol while taking creatine?

    Creatine is naturally occurring. Alcohol while taking creatine won't have any dangerous side effects.

    The alcohol might work against it but that's about the height of it.

    It may only be an issue if you have a kidney issue or diabetes.


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    #33
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    TommyJoe15 wrote: »
    Sorry I'm mainly wondering if any of ye have had any experience with having alcohol while taking creatine?

    Ever had a burger while out on the lash? Same thing.


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    #34
    thevillaman
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭thevillaman


    Like everything fitness start at the beginning if you're thinking about taking this creatine start off with a small doses for a week and if you feel that does is to little just add a little more your budy is probably a bodybuilder just remember your
    six-month a beginner you're still learning technique in the gym is better than any supplement on the market don't get me wrong yes I have taken supplements and still am taking
    supplements and taking creatine for the follow lock is better than any supplement on the market don't get me wrong yes I am taken supplements


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    #35
    thevillaman
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭thevillaman


    Like everything fitness start at the beginning if you're thinking about taking this creatine start off with a small doses for a week and if you feel that does is to little just add a little more your budy is probably a bodybuilder just remember your
    six-month a beginner you're still learning technique in the gym is better than any supplement on the market don't get me wrong yes I have taken supplements and still am taking
    supplements and taking creatine for the follow lock is better than any supplement on the market don't get me wrong yes I am taken supplements


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    #36
    tster
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭tster


    Funny to see creatine lumped in with blood doping in The Guardian article, think it was also in the Irish Times:
    In football, blood-spinning and the muscle-building substance creatine – the latter not actually banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency, but looked on with such disfavour that sportsmen and women are cautioned against its use – were in regular use at certain top Premier League clubs comparatively recently. Creatine was held responsible for the sudden change in body-shape of the players of a leading Italian club a decade ago.
    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/aug/02/athletics-doping-revelations-dismay-but-no-surprise


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    #37
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    tster wrote: »
    Funny to see creatine lumped in with blood doping in The Guardian article, think it was also in the Irish Times:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/aug/02/athletics-doping-revelations-dismay-but-no-surprise

    It's just nonsense. There was something something similar in the Irish times a year ago around creatine and rugby.


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    #38
    Sugar Free
    Registered Users Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    I wish all the creatine I've horsed into me over the years had such a profound body comp effect...all I got was bloat!


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    #39
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,553 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Sugar Free wrote: »
    I wish all the creatine I've horsed into me over the years had such a profound body comp effect...all I got was bloat!

    And anger...right?


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    #40
    Sugar Free
    Registered Users Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    And anger...right?

    F*ck off!


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    #41
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    thevillaman wrote: »
    Like everything fitness start at the beginning if you're thinking about taking this creatine start off with a small doses for a week and if you feel that does is to little just add a little more your budy is probably a bodybuilder just remember your
    six-month a beginner you're still learning technique in the gym is better than any supplement on the market don't get me wrong yes I have taken supplements and still am taking
    supplements and taking creatine for the follow lock is better than any supplement on the market don't get me wrong yes I am taken supplements

    Full stop much?? ......


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    #42
    allan450
    Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭allan450


    Try clen much better for the results you are looking for.


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    #43
    Transform
    Registered Users Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Full stop much?? ......
    take a bow


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    #44
    Transform
    Registered Users Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    the best darn supplement review is here - http://www.jissn.com/content/7/1/7

    someone should possibly sticky this as stuff like this comes up all the time


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    #45
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 36,131 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    tster wrote: »
    Funny to see creatine lumped in with blood doping in The Guardian article, think it was also in the Irish Times:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/aug/02/athletics-doping-revelations-dismay-but-no-surprise

    I wouldn't say it's funny myself. It's seriously ****ing annoying. The whole 'athletes are cautioned against taking it' line is SO incorrect that - aside from offending my sensibilities - it serves to show how little faith should be placed in journalism generally.


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    #46
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,553 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    The one comment under it on the IT website sums it up:
    I stopped reading when I saw the word 'creatine'. You completely destroy all of your credibility when you equate creatine with performance-enhancing drugs. Obviously you don't understand the topic you are writing about. Creatine occurs naturally in every cell in every animal. It's present in all meats. It's not illegal, it's not a steroid, it's not dangerous. The fear-mongering about it is entirely unhelpful


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    #47
    UnknownSpecies
    Registered Users Posts: 3,183 ✭✭✭UnknownSpecies


    Transform wrote: »
    the best darn supplement review is here - http://www.jissn.com/content/7/1/7

    someone should possibly sticky this as stuff like this comes up all the time

    Very good (but tough) read. I got a prompt to use their new beta site, made it much easier to read.


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    #48
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    dorgasm wrote: »
    Very good (but tough) read. I got a prompt to use their new beta site, made it much easier to read.

    Jesus Christ that's a lot of reading. Some very interesting parts in it all the same


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    #49
    Transform
    Registered Users Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Jesus Christ that's a lot of reading. Some very interesting parts in it all the same
    yes but read it through once and you have a solid grasp on whats BS and what works. Just tweeted them and they said they want to do an update on this soon

    seriously, people still read the IT and expect anything other than misinformation when it comes to ANYTHING related to fitness and health


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    #50
    Transform
    Registered Users Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    he just added that the only thing he would add in straight way is the research on beetroot juice e.g. here


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    #51
    cc87
    Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭cc87


    I'm a fan of the Australian Institute of Sport and their classification guide when it comes to supplements as well.
    http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/nutrition/supplements/classification


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    #52
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    I bought creative powder tonight. Although it says 5g dosage they neglected to provide a 5g scoop. A few questions.
    Do I really need to use the loading stage?
    Can I mix it directly into a protein/carb shake?
    Is there an easy way to measure out 5g?


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    #53
    caviardreams
    Registered Users Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    I bought creative powder tonight. Although it says 5g dosage they neglected to provide a 5g scoop. A few questions.
    Do I really need to use the loading stage?
    Can I mix it directly into a protein/carb shake?
    Is there an easy way to measure out 5g?

    Pretty much 1 teaspoon I think - a gram or so either way isn't going to matter much though.


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    #54
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,553 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    I bought creative powder tonight. Although it says 5g dosage they neglected to provide a 5g scoop. A few questions.
    Do I really need to use the loading stage?
    Can I mix it directly into a protein/carb shake?
    Is there an easy way to measure out 5g?

    No need to load.


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    #55
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    No need to load.

    I'm 85kg. Is 5g once a day enough for me to have? Can I mix it into a protein shake or just have it on its own? When is the best time to take it?


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    #56
    UnknownSpecies
    Registered Users Posts: 3,183 ✭✭✭UnknownSpecies


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    I'm 85kg. Is 5g once a day enough for me to have? Can I mix it into a protein shake or just have it on its own? When is the best time to take it?

    Take it however you like. One time I didn't have a proper shaker so took a scope straight into my mouth and washed it down. And I'm still alive.


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    #57
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    dorgasm wrote: »
    Take it however you like. One time I didn't have a proper shaker so took a scope straight into my mouth and washed it down. And I'm still alive.

    Thought u were gonna say you snorted it there for a second.


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    #58
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,553 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    I'm 85kg. Is 5g once a day enough for me to have? Can I mix it into a protein shake or just have it on its own? When is the best time to take it?

    5g is plenty. Maintenance dosing is 0.03g/kg which would be less than 3g for you.

    Doesn't matter if you take it with a shake. Take it anytime. It's often suggested to take after a workout but afaik it doesn't affect uptake by the muskels.


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    #59
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Thanks again to everyone. Once again some invaluable answers. Much appreciated


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    #60
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,553 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Thanks again to everyone. Once again some invaluable answers. Much appreciated

    Examine.com is a great resource on supplements.


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    #61
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Examine.com is a great resource on supplements.

    Somebody mentioned IT earlier. What is that?


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