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How will you vote in the Marriage Equality referendum? Mod Note Post 1

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    #9842
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    gravehold wrote: »
    I am pretty sure breaking bad is not trying to paint the meth dealer in a good light as a parent. I said I know it's a show but it if this gay propaganda of a good outcome of a gay couple adopting it really gives me pause. I know I shouldn't let propaganda effect me but that family is so bad while it's meant to be a good thing

    You dont understand Breaking Bad at all. The original point is that Walt was trying to be a good parent and father by preventing his wife and children from being left crippled with medical bills debt after his death. He got into it FOR his family.

    The heterosexual couples in modern family are hardly good role models either. But this is all completely irrelevant to a real life Irish referendum.


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    #9843
    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,233 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    smash wrote: »


    I really wish you'd stop this...

    Hit the ignore button. Just in case stupid is contagious.

    :)


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    #9844
    gravehold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭gravehold


    seamus wrote: »
    Why is it propaganda? It's a comedy show. And by design shows distorts everyday situations into farcical ones for comedic effect.

    You may as well say that Friends makes you think about whether extra marital sex should really be legal at all.

    Or that Father Ted provides evidence that religion should be outlawed.

    Are you saying the cast of friends where sluts there wasn't a huge amount of sex on that show. And modern family whole premise is propaganda that the normal family is not needed but that gay family is god awful, why do the other families on the show come out ok


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    #9845
    Lt J.R. Bell
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Lt J.R. Bell


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    Interesting phrasing there:

    A bit like saying "gays are second class citizens because they can't marry"

    Unless you can prove (should not be hard actually) the insinuation that you are making, I suggest to stop and get back to the issues


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    #9846
    Bannasidhe
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Lt J.R. Bell wrote: »
    A bit like saying "gays are second class citizens because they can't marry"

    Unless you can prove (should not be hard actually) the insinuation that you are making, I suggest to stop and get back to the issues

    What harm do you believe only gay parents (adoptive or biological) will do to children that renders them, en mass, unsuitable?


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    #9847
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    gravehold wrote: »
    Are you saying the cast of friends where sluts there wasn't a huge amount of sex on that show. And modern family whole premise is propaganda that the normal family is not needed but that gay family is god awful, why do the other families on the show come out ok

    What harm do you believe only gay parents (adoptive or biological) will do to children that renders them, en mass, unsuitable?


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    #9848
    Lt J.R. Bell
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Lt J.R. Bell


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    What harm do you believe only gay parents (adoptive or biological) will do to children that renders them, en mass, unsuitable?

    A child's best interest , when available, is to have the care and company of a mother and a father, who are perfectly capable of providing the love etc required


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    #9849
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    gravehold wrote: »
    Are you saying the cast of friends where sluts there wasn't a huge amount of sex on that show.
    :eek:

    Isn't it funny how you only see what you want to see?


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    #9850
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    Lt J.R. Bell wrote: »
    A child's best interest , when available, is to have the care and company of a mother and a father, who are perfectly capable of providing the love etc required

    That doesnt answer the question.

    What harm do you believe only gay parents (adoptive or biological) will do to children that renders them, en mass, unsuitable?


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    #9851
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Lt J.R. Bell wrote: »
    A child's best interest , when available, is to have the care and company of a mother and a father, who are perfectly capable of providing the love etc required
    Prove it.


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    #9852
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Lt J.R. Bell wrote: »
    A child's best interest , when available, is to have the care and company of a mother and a father, who are perfectly capable of providing the love etc required

    That does not answer the question asked of you and once again you are asserting as fact something that is absolutely not fact. You can agressively repeat it as much as you like it won't make it a fact.


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    #9853
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Lt J.R. Bell wrote: »
    Unless you can prove (should not be hard actually) the insinuation that you are making, I suggest to stop and get back to the issues

    Another non-denial denial.


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    #9854
    GCU Flexible Demeanour
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭GCU Flexible Demeanour


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    A non-denial denial.
    Oh, I deny it. You'll have no problems getting a clear "No" out of me there. I'd hate to be stealing someone else's thunder.


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    #9855
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Lt J.R. Bell wrote: »
    A child's best interest , when available, is to have the care and company of a mother and a father, who are perfectly capable of providing the love etc required

    So the courts would never have to take a child away from an available mother and father?


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    #9856
    Bannasidhe
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Lt J.R. Bell wrote: »
    A child's best interest , when available, is to have the care and company of a mother and a father, who are perfectly capable of providing the love etc required

    Can you please answer the question you were asked.

    What harm do you believe only gay parents (adoptive or biological) will do to children that renders them, en mass, unsuitable?


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    #9857
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Lt J.R. Bell wrote: »
    A bit like saying "gays are second class citizens because they can't marry"

    Unless you can prove (should not be hard actually) the insinuation that you are making, I suggest to stop and get back to the issues
    That's very easy to prove.
    Can you get married to the one you love? No!
    Can the heterosexual couple get married? Yes!
    Lt J.R. Bell wrote: »
    A child's best interest , when available, is to have the care and company of a mother and a father, who are perfectly capable of providing the love etc required
    So children of single parents or children of existing same sex couples are currently not receiving the level of care and love that those of a married heterosexual couple will offer? Is that what you're trying to say?


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    #9858
    gravehold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭gravehold


    seamus wrote: »
    :eek:

    Isn't it funny how en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias"]you only see what you want to see[/URL]?

    Chandler: 10.5 sex partners
    Ross: 14 sex partners
    Monica: 14.5 sex partners
    Rachel: 15.5 sex partners
    Phoebe: 32.5 sex partners
    Joey: 51.5 sex partners

    Joey is a slut I guess kinda but the rest is pretty normal for a period of ten years, even joey's is only 5 partners per year when you avg it out.

    My gay friends pretty much have sex with a different guy each weekend.


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    #9859
    SireOfSeth
    Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭SireOfSeth


    gravehold wrote: »
    My gay friends pretty much have sex with a different guy each weekend.

    Mine don't. So what's your point?


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    #9860
    DanDublin1982
    Registered Users Posts: 641 ✭✭✭DanDublin1982


    gravehold wrote: »
    Chandler: 10.5 sex partners
    Ross: 14 sex partners
    Monica: 14.5 sex partners
    Rachel: 15.5 sex partners
    Phoebe: 32.5 sex partners
    Joey: 51.5 sex partners

    Joey is a slut I guess kinda but the rest is pretty normal for a period of ten years, even joey's is only 5 partners per year when you avg it out.

    My gay friends pretty much have sex with a different guy each weekend.

    How did they have .5 of a sexual partner?


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    #9861
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    gravehold wrote: »
    Chandler: 10.5 sex partners
    Ross: 14 sex partners
    Monica: 14.5 sex partners
    Rachel: 15.5 sex partners
    Phoebe: 32.5 sex partners
    Joey: 51.5 sex partners

    Joey is a slut I guess kinda but the rest is pretty normal for a period of ten years, even joey's is only 5 partners per year when you avg it out.

    My gay friends pretty much have sex with a different guy each weekend.

    Who cares?


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    #9862
    gravehold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭gravehold


    DanDublin1982 wrote: »
    How did they have .5 of a sexual partner?

    avclub.com/article/someone-calculated-how-many-people-the-emfriends-e-90450

    Might have happened but confirmed or heavily implied


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    #9863
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    gravehold wrote: »
    My gay friends pretty much have sex with a different guy each weekend.

    Mine dont but some of my heterosexual ones do. So?


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    #9864
    gravehold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭gravehold


    SireOfSeth wrote: »
    Mine don't. So what's your point?

    Friends wasn't an overtly sexual show, those amount of sexual partners are not that hight for the period of years the show covers
    eviltwin wrote: »
    Who cares?

    Seamus


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    #9865
    smokingman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭smokingman


    Something to lighten the mood
    http://youtu.be/ytulLaJx6Rk

    I can't stop listening to this...LOUD!
    My kids are having great fun dancing to it too


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    #9866
    tigger123
    Registered Users Posts: 4,441 ✭✭✭tigger123


    gravehold wrote: »
    Chandler: 10.5 sex partners
    Ross: 14 sex partners
    Monica: 14.5 sex partners
    Rachel: 15.5 sex partners
    Phoebe: 32.5 sex partners
    Joey: 51.5 sex partners

    Joey is a slut I guess kinda but the rest is pretty normal for a period of ten years, even joey's is only 5 partners per year when you avg it out.

    My gay friends pretty much have sex with a different guy each weekend.

    I don't believe for one second that you've got gay friends.


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    #9867
    jimdublin15
    Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭jimdublin15


    gravehold wrote: »
    My gay friends pretty much have sex with a different guy each weekend.

    So you have slutty friends some of them gay. Cool for you. Most of my "friends" are straight married housewife's most of whom have sex with more than one guy a weekend.

    What's your point in relation to same sex marriage on this or anything else that you posted this morning week. ?


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    #9868
    gravehold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭gravehold


    tigger123 wrote: »
    I don't believe for one second that you've got gay friends.

    You are free to your opinion and your right to say it. But you would be wrong


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    #9869
    gravehold
    Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭gravehold


    jimdublin15 wrote: »
    Most of my "friends" are straight married housewife's most of whom have sex with more than one guy a weekend.

    Are they in a polygamous relationship but not allowed to be married to all the men they want too? Pity marraige equality won't cover their relationship and allow them to marry.


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    #9870
    GCU Flexible Demeanour
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭GCU Flexible Demeanour


    I hear they won't give their kids a good smack when they're bold.


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    #9871
    tigger123
    Registered Users Posts: 4,441 ✭✭✭tigger123


    gravehold wrote: »
    You are free to your opinion and your right to say it. But you would be wrong

    Have you discussed your views on the upcoming referendum with your gay friends?


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